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Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 05:56 AM Aug 2021

Australian mathematician discovers applied geometry engraved on 3,700-year-old tablet

Old Babylonian tablet likely used for surveying uses Pythagorean triples at least 1,000 years before Pythagoras

Donna Lu
@donnadlu
Wed 4 Aug 2021 11.00 EDT



Geometry engravings found on Old Babylonian tablet force re-evaluation of other tablets of the era, with Australian scientist saying it shows the ‘society has reached a particular level of mathematical sophistication’. Photograph: UNSW Sydney
Donna Lu
@donnadlu
Wed 4 Aug 2021 11.00 EDT

An Australian mathematician has discovered what may be the oldest known example of applied geometry, on a 3,700-year-old Babylonian clay tablet.

Known as Si.427, the tablet bears a field plan measuring the boundaries of some land.

The tablet dates from the Old Babylonian period between 1900 and 1600 BCE and was discovered in the late 19th century in what is now Iraq. It had been housed in the Istanbul Archaeological Museum before Dr Daniel Mansfield from the University of New South Wales tracked it down.

Mansfield and Norman Wildberger, an associate professor at UNSW, had previously identified another Babylonian tablet as containing the world’s oldest and most accurate trigonometric table. At the time, they speculated the tablet was likely to have had some practical use, possibly in surveying or construction.

More:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/aug/05/australian-mathematician-discovers-applied-geometry-engraved-on-3700-year-old-tablet

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jaxexpat

(6,820 posts)
1. It only takes a couple of these precedent shattering discoveries and pretty soon,
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 06:30 AM
Aug 2021

whole societies have to re-examine their essential dogmas.....again.

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
6. That's science for ya.
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 08:49 AM
Aug 2021

What we think we know is good only until the next discovery. Dogma eventually fades away in the light of new evidence. Religion on the other hand.......

jaxexpat

(6,820 posts)
10. Well, they had a cuneiform typewriter buy it weighed over 200,000 shekels.
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 09:06 AM
Aug 2021

Took 3 oxen to move the portable model. Stupid ox driven typewriter. Didn't catch on.

KS Toronado

(17,220 posts)
3. Looks like Fred Flintstone might have had a hand in this.......
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 07:39 AM
Aug 2021

looks like his work, always thought Bedrock was some where in this country, not Iraq.

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
5. Think about everything we destroyed when we invaded Iraq.
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 08:31 AM
Aug 2021

Thousands of objects like this - records of the beginnings of human civilization - blown to smithereens or stolen during W's evil invasion and occupation of a country that had nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11.

I will never forgive. Never.

niyad

(113,284 posts)
7. Thank you. Was thinking that very thing. Along with, what other amazing, upending
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 09:00 AM
Aug 2021

pieces of information are just sitting in vaults, boxes, storage, tc., forgotten ignored dismissed, through bias. I particularly think about it in terms of patriarchal bias against women's culture, but it exists in all areas.

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
9. So true. Patriarchy and racism through the millennia.
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 09:02 AM
Aug 2021

Pre-Colombian records burned by invaders. Women healers burned. Babylonian records burned.

MisterNiceKitty

(422 posts)
13. There was some discussion
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 10:45 AM
Aug 2021

that the Pythagorean theorem was of Egyptian origin - note sure it was proven though.

https://www.nytimes.com/1991/02/14/opinion/l-did-egypt-originate-geometry-theorem-164991.html

"The case of the Pythagorean theorem is equally clear. The Babylonians knew the Pythagorean relationship, a + b = c ; the Egyptians knew that a 3,4,5 triangle for which the Pythagorean theorem holds was a right triangle, but theorems, the proof of the relationship, are Hellenic."

Irish_Dem

(47,014 posts)
14. How many advanced civilizations have vanished without a trace?
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 12:04 PM
Aug 2021

Probably more than we know.

Maybe we will be one of them?

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