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JDDavis

(725 posts)
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 07:24 PM Mar 2015

Ben Carson: Religion Is Needed To Test Scientific Theories In Case 'It's Just Propaganda'

Ah, the final authority, a non-practicing medical doctor making more on his speaking tour than actually practicing medicine.

We heathens should be listening to him, amIright?

http://crooksandliars.com/2015/03/ben-carson-religion-needed-test-scientific?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

"I find, a very good measure of correlation between my religious beliefs and my scientific beliefs -- people say, how can you be a scientist, how can you be a surgeon if you don't believe in certain things?" he continued. "Maybe those things aren't scientific. Maybe it's just propaganda."


Rich people becoming Republicans never astounds me, they want to keep all they earn, not a penny to the government that helped them get there.

But when they are supposedly educated in scientific disciplines, it really astounds me that they willingly give up all that sense of the nature of scientific inquiry and return to mythology as their basic method for "validation" of fact. What "validation" method does religion ever offer? Or, maybe, in this guy's case, he's just trying to be a geinius of pulling the wool over everybody's eyes in order to secure a well-paying speaking tour circuit for the next 30 years. He thinks he can get more $$ out of stupid people listening to him speaking for 30 minutes than he can get trying to practice medicine in America today, and he's probably right; lots of stupid people will pay to hear him speak.

Is he an actual practicing medical doctor or just a super crafty con artist who was smart enough to get through medical school and practice medicine for a few years before he found a higher-paying way out?

As someone else pointed out: "Ben Carson is a scam and an opportunist. He spoon-feeds his fans what they want to hear, like any other entertainer." I think Ben just found a better-paying job than being an actual pediatric surgeon, by being a Republican bullshit slinger.

Knowing this is offensive to the 12-13 very devoutly religious people who lurk and browse this thread, and are offended by certain words when applied to people who are believers: the two words "delusional" and "arrogant" both apply to this Carson guy. He is both. He uses religion to win converts, and has the arrogance high enough to deny the value of logical and scientific inquiry, all to make more money for himself, a kind of black Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson, but a bit younger and he was gifted with a much better educational opportunity which he threw away in order to sling this bullshit for greater profit.
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Ben Carson: Religion Is Needed To Test Scientific Theories In Case 'It's Just Propaganda' (Original Post) JDDavis Mar 2015 OP
To this I can only say: OMFNEG Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #1
Fuck Ben Carson. He is a lying, plagiarizing, hypocritical assface shitstain Heddi Mar 2015 #2
well put! RussBLib Mar 2015 #6
I have come to believe Curmudgeoness Mar 2015 #3
I agree. Mr.Bill Mar 2015 #4
I think these charlatans like Carson.... RussBLib Mar 2015 #8
but it takes more than silly religious bullshit to pull the wool over our eyes. AlbertCat Mar 2015 #12
Yet more proof of how toxic and destructive skepticscott Mar 2015 #5
My Mother-in-law has one of this douche's books. progressoid Mar 2015 #7
Clarence Thomas Junior... onager Mar 2015 #9
"I got mine, fuck you!" trotsky Mar 2015 #10
I refuse to accept the propaganda edhopper Mar 2015 #11
If I want to levitate, I just got to believe. AlbertCat Mar 2015 #13
I would pray to them edhopper Mar 2015 #14
Somehow this got posted by someone else to late breaking news JDDavis Mar 2015 #15

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
3. I have come to believe
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 07:49 PM
Mar 2015

that all these politicians who spout this shit are just saying whatever they think it will take to get elected. They don't really believe what they are saying, it is all theater. I am beginning to think that most of them are not even Christian, they are just saying they are. If they were, they could never spout some of the hard-hearted things that they say.

I cannot even take these comments seriously anymore.

Mr.Bill

(24,286 posts)
4. I agree.
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 08:05 PM
Mar 2015

If Ben Carson actually believed half of the stuff he says, his medical license should be revoked. You can't be that anti-science and practice medicine in the real world.

RussBLib

(9,008 posts)
8. I think these charlatans like Carson....
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 11:42 AM
Mar 2015

KNOW that the right (especially the faithiests) is full of delusional people who will believe ANYTHING, and this is the quickest path to fame and fortune.

You can't fool the left quite so easily with this silly mumbo-jumbo. We on the left are not fool-proof, but it takes more than silly religious bullshit to pull the wool over our eyes.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
12. but it takes more than silly religious bullshit to pull the wool over our eyes.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 03:28 PM
Mar 2015

Yeah... it takes silly pseudo-science most the time. And then it seems never as great a number are taken in as the right.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
5. Yet more proof of how toxic and destructive
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 11:40 PM
Mar 2015

the delusions fostered by religion are. But those 12-13 religionistas think that warm, fuzzy sense of "community" makes up for it all.

progressoid

(49,990 posts)
7. My Mother-in-law has one of this douche's books.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 06:29 AM
Mar 2015

I randomly opened it and started reading. He was blathering on about how important faith was to governing the country. I read about a page and a half and quit. Didn't want to lose my lunch.

onager

(9,356 posts)
9. Clarence Thomas Junior...
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 12:22 PM
Mar 2015

Another clown who took advantage of every "socialistic" opportunity available. And after weaseling his way into the GOP inner circle, now wants to deny those opportunities to everybody else.

Speaking of Slappy Thomas, a/k/a Scalia's Butt-Puppet - if you haven't seen it yet, check out the 2013 documentary Anita, about Anita Hill's case.

Some interviewees expressed outrage about Thomas' famous "hi-tech lynching" line. (Written for him by a GOP flack.) As they correctly point out, this privilege-stuffed creature of the GOP had a lot of nerve comparing himself to victims, usually poor, who were killed just for the color of their skin.

Carson comes out of the same slimy mold. "I got mine, po' folks. Now fuck y'all!"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2481202/

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
13. If I want to levitate, I just got to believe.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 03:31 PM
Mar 2015

Yeah.... just don't accidentally pray to Hindu deities, in "Hindu", to do it!

 

JDDavis

(725 posts)
15. Somehow this got posted by someone else to late breaking news
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 11:01 AM
Mar 2015

Don't know why this qualified there but it still remains, with dozens of comments.

Perhaps we should invite some of those commenters to join us over here.

Edited to add link to LBN thread on this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1026611

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