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beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 04:31 AM Oct 2015

Why the “Christian Lives Matter” Claims are Absurd

Why the “Christian Lives Matter” Claims are Absurd
October 5, 2015 by Lauren Nelson

It doesn’t matter that the motivation for the Oregon shooting was probably about mental illness and subscription to violent ideologies. It doesn’t matter that the latest survivor statements indicate that the shooter was not targeting Christians exclusively. No, none of this matters to those up in arms over the media’s coverage of and the public response to last week’s tragedy.

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As the Christian Post reports:

Catholic League’s Bill Donohue has criticized several American mainstream news publications for failing to mention in their coverage of the Oregon shooting last week that the victims were specifically killed because they identified themselves as Christians. Donohue also claimed President Barack Obama would have been more outraged if the victims were Muslims.

“If African Americans or Muslims had been singled out, President Obama would have gone ballistic, Al Sharpton would be calling for street rallies, and CAIR would be asking for congressional investigations,” Donohue argued in a statement.

“But because Christians are being cherry picked for murder, there is no call to arms. Indeed, many major media outlets aren’t even telling the truth. It’s obvious — ‘Christian Lives Don’t Matter’ — either here or abroad,” he added.


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...Donahue’s attempt to use the rhetoric of BLM is similarly absurd. Christians do not face the same economic and social headwinds. They do not face disproportionate arrest and police violence rates because of their faith. They do not face pervasive discrimination in their communities. Not compared to people of color. Not compared to Muslims. Not compared to transgender individuals.

Christians as a group were not being targeted in Oregon, but even without that event, Christians will still claim persecution. They point to criticism of their beliefs on same-sex marriage. They point to bakeries and Kim Davis and the removal of mandatory prayer from schools. They very clearly demonstrate that they have no idea what persecution actually is.

The whole thing would be laughable if there weren’t actually a large number of Americans who buy this nonsense. Sure, Christian lives matter as much as the rest. They just aren’t in direct danger.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/10/05/why-the-christian-lives-matter-claims-are-absurd/



You knew this was coming, didn't you my evil atheist friends?


You just knew they were going to go there.






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Why the “Christian Lives Matter” Claims are Absurd (Original Post) beam me up scottie Oct 2015 OP
There's nothing they enjoy more than feeling persecuted. mr blur Oct 2015 #1
I wonder if they have the rubber bracelets made up yet? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #2
This is the exact topic of my dad's rant on it the other day. PeaceNikki Oct 2015 #9
I am going to launch my "Pastafarian Lives Matter" group Yorktown Oct 2015 #3
I get so tired of the majority religion claiming victimhood status. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Oct 2015 #5
It wouldn't even take a week.. mountain grammy Oct 2015 #11
Yes. This. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #12
They very clearly demonstrate that they have no idea what persecution actually is. AlbertCat Oct 2015 #6
That's a good point, AlbertCat. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #13
Never mind, it gave the religious moron a chance to imply that Obama's a Muslim, mr blur Oct 2015 #7
They always have to throw that in there. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #14
The thing is Curmudgeoness Oct 2015 #8
Exactly. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #15
The killer in question was a Christian himself Nevernose Oct 2015 #10
I think his parents were Christian but he didn't identify as one. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #16

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
9. This is the exact topic of my dad's rant on it the other day.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 06:44 PM
Oct 2015

They feel so much more Christian if they're persecuted. The more, the better.

 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
3. I am going to launch my "Pastafarian Lives Matter" group
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 06:00 AM
Oct 2015

I feel discriminated against.

Sometimes people give me nasty look when I praise the Holy Spaghetti Monster.

Others look shocked, even sneer, when I greet them with "May pesto be upon you".

I am starting to believe people are biased against my religion.


Did I tell you about when I say "One nation under the Flying Spaghetti Monster"?

The nasty reaction I get? Sheesh..

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
4. I get so tired of the majority religion claiming victimhood status.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 06:22 AM
Oct 2015

It's insulting to minorities and women who face discrimination and bigotry on a daily basis.

Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
6. They very clearly demonstrate that they have no idea what persecution actually is.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 09:36 AM
Oct 2015

Needed repeating.

Besides, they LOVE feeling persecuted (because it's just a feeling and not really happening). They can go to one of the many churches on every other street corner and whine about it together.




And of course, like I said days ago, he was committing "suicide by cop" so injecting religion gets him even more attention.... which was his goal.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
13. That's a good point, AlbertCat.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 11:38 PM
Oct 2015

It does make sense that he would try to become even more infamous by interjecting religion.

 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
7. Never mind, it gave the religious moron a chance to imply that Obama's a Muslim,
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 11:47 AM
Oct 2015

and thus probably the Kenyan Anti-Christ who wants to take all the poor Christians' lovely guns away and then kill them.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
8. The thing is
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 03:18 PM
Oct 2015

that a black person cannot get away from the skin they were born with. It is on full display at every moment. But walking down the street, you cannot be sure of most people's religion. The persecution is in their head.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
10. The killer in question was a Christian himself
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 08:32 PM
Oct 2015

He was "spiritual, but not religious" which means he wasn't a Bible-thumper but still willing to believe in sky-spirits, but he also clearly believed in Satan and Hell (or at least said he did in one of his notes left behind).

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
16. I think his parents were Christian but he didn't identify as one.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 11:42 PM
Oct 2015

But good point about Hell and Satan.

Kid had some problems, picking and choosing what to believe was the least of them.

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