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Thu Jan 14, 2016, 09:35 AM

Bernie Sanders Rejects Theocracy, Defends Church State Separation

Bernie Sanders Rejects Theocracy, Defends Church State Separation
January 9, 2016
by: Michael Stone

Rejecting the Republican dream of a Christian theocracy, Bernie Sanders tells supporters it is “dangerous for governments to get deeply involved with religion.”

Justin Scott, an Iowan who takes his politics seriously, asked the Democratic presidential candidate for his thoughts on politicians who “base a lot of their legislation on their religious beliefs” at a recent campaign event in Iowa.

Sanders answered:

Religious freedom in this country is part of our Constitution, and all of us agree with that. And you have many different religions, and people have the right, in this country, to practice the religion that they believe in.
But we also have a separation between religion and state. We know how dangerous it is, historically, for governments to get deeply involved with religion… Let’s not confuse and merge religion and state. That is not what our Founding Fathers wanted, and they were right.


Sanders is right. The attempt by today’s Republican party to “confuse and merge religion and state” is dangerous, un-American, and a repudiation of the secular values upon which this nation was founded.

This is not the first time the progressive candidate has championed secular values. Earlier this year, in an uplifting viral video supporting Sanders’ 2016 presidential campaign, the presidential hopeful declared:

The problems we face did not come down from the heavens. They are made, they are made by bad human decisions, and good human decisions can change them.


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Sanders is a friend to freethinkers, and the enemy of conservative Christians. Religious News Service describes Sanders as “unabashedly irreligious” and “the anti-Bible thumper,” noting:

Sanders is the presidential contender most willing to dissociate himself from religion. Though he identifies as Jewish and by Jewish law is Jewish, he has freely acknowledged that he is not a religious person. He scored a solid zero from Ralph Reed’s Faith and Freedom Coalition in its most recent scorecard and a 100 from the abortion rights group NARAL Pro-Choice America.

Scoring a zero from Ralph Reed’s Faith and Freedom Coalition is a badge of honor, and should be a ringing endorsement to the ears of every humanist, every atheist, every freethinker.

More: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2016/01/bernie-sanders-rejects-theocracy-defends-church-state-separation/#sthash.c7iYfb7W.dpuf


It's refreshing to finally have a presidential candidate who won't pander to the bible thumpers!

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Reply Bernie Sanders Rejects Theocracy, Defends Church State Separation (Original post)
beam me up scottie Jan 2016 OP
Cartoonist Jan 2016 #1
AlbertCat Jan 2016 #6
NeoGreen Jan 2016 #2
mountain grammy Jan 2016 #3
fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #4
AlbertCat Jan 2016 #5
Cartoonist Jan 2016 #7
AlbertCat Jan 2016 #8
Curmudgeoness Jan 2016 #9
Lordquinton Jan 2016 #10
onager Jan 2016 #11
progressoid Jan 2016 #12
tecelote Feb 2016 #13

Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Thu Jan 14, 2016, 09:44 AM

1. I wonder what his favorite book is.

We know Hillary's is the Bible. Same with Trump, though I doubt he ever read it. Same with Cruz, and I'm sure his father reads to him from it every night.

It's going to be so easy to vote for Bernie.

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Response to Cartoonist (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 14, 2016, 01:40 PM

6. We know Hillary's is the Bible.

 

It's worse than that because we KNOW it isn't....


She just said it was.

Pander pander pander.....

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Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Thu Jan 14, 2016, 09:55 AM

2. I am compelled...

...to REC this post.

Finally, a candidate who does not pander.

Thanks BMUS

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Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Thu Jan 14, 2016, 10:16 AM

3. I'm sure Hillarywill pray for him.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Thu Jan 14, 2016, 10:19 AM

4. Thank DOG . . .

Finally, a candidate who calls for separation of state and church!

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Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Thu Jan 14, 2016, 01:38 PM

5. "The problems we face did not come down from the heavens."

 

Thank you!

Not even climate change!


"He scored a solid zero from Ralph Reed’s Faith and Freedom Coalition in its most recent scorecard and a 100 from the abortion rights group NARAL Pro-Choice America. "

Two more good reasons to vote for him.

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Response to AlbertCat (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 14, 2016, 01:49 PM

7. If I didn't get a zero from Ralph Reed

then I would consider myself a failure.

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Response to Cartoonist (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 14, 2016, 02:02 PM

8. Egg-zackly

 

Ralph Reed is a grifter and a crook who should be in jail.

Who wants his approval?

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Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Thu Jan 14, 2016, 02:09 PM

9. Well, the religionistas now have another reason to bash him...

and I really thought that they would attack him for being a Jew or something!

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 14, 2016, 02:33 PM

10. I think his being Jewish will deflect a lot of the criticism for not being religious

It's the same with the Socialism charge, they are used to people running in terror when they start hinting at those attacks, but Bernie doesn't care about it, embraces it. they won't know what to do with that reaction.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Thu Jan 14, 2016, 03:21 PM

11. In the footsteps of Culbert Olson...

Olson was the 29th governor of California from 1939 to 1943. Mostly forgotten today but he was an interesting character. The more things change, the more they stay the same...

Olson refused to say "so help me God" during his oath of office to state Supreme Court Justice William H. Waste. Olson remarked earlier to Justice Waste that "God couldn't help me at all, and that there isn't any such person." Instead, Olson said, "I will affirm."

By the first year of his governorship, Olson's proposed budget was cut by nearly 100 million dollars, plus the Governor's proposal of compulsory universal health insurance for every Californian was defeated. The Legislature also defeated legislation to raise income, bank and corporate taxes, as well as Olson's proposed bills to regulate lobbyists...

During his tenure of the governorship, Olson grew increasingly critical of the Roman Catholic Church and its presence in the state educational system. Olson gained the ire of Archbishops John J. Cantwell of Los Angeles and John J. Mitty of San Francisco, during his term in office.

A secular atheist, Olson was disturbed by the state legislature's passage of two bills in 1941, one to give free transportation to students attending Catholic schools, while the other would release Catholic children from public schools in the middle of the school day in order to attend catechism, leaving the schools and other students idle until the Catholic students' return. Olson signed into law the first bill, later citing the enormous pressure of the Catholic Church on his office and on state lawmakers. However, he vetoed the second ("early release" bill...

In 1957, Olson became president of the United Secularists of America, a body made up of secularists, atheists, and freethinkers.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culbert_Olson

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Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Thu Jan 14, 2016, 03:36 PM

12. He'll soon be attacked for not ending every speech with "God Bless America"

In fact, when I went to see him last month, I don't think he mentioned the deity at all !!11!

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Response to beam me up scottie (Original post)

Wed Feb 10, 2016, 03:57 AM

13. Interesting that it may be a non-Christian that...

Ends our endless wars and begins to fight climate change at the level we need.

Bernie's values and ethics go beyond religion.

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