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Fri Jan 15, 2016, 09:03 PM

does anyone know

how much the subsidies for he healthcare exchange cost?

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Reply does anyone know (Original post)
questionseverything Jan 2016 OP
darkangel218 Jan 2016 #1
questionseverything Jan 2016 #2
darkangel218 Jan 2016 #3
Autumn Jan 2016 #5
onecaliberal Jan 2016 #4
Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #6
onecaliberal Jan 2016 #8
Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #9
onecaliberal Jan 2016 #10
Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #7
questionseverything Jan 2016 #11
Recursion Jan 2016 #12
questionseverything Jan 2016 #13

Response to questionseverything (Original post)

Fri Jan 15, 2016, 09:05 PM

1. I don't.

 

But what I know is that many cannot afford the co-payments and high premiums.

Healthcare should be a right, not a privilege.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 15, 2016, 09:07 PM

2. i agree

the reason i ask is,those premium subsidies do come from taxpayers.....i just wonder how far they would go to offset the cost of single payer

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 15, 2016, 09:10 PM

3. Whatever it is, it would be well worth it.

 

Invest in healthcare and infrastructure, as opposed to drones and wars.

We are breaking down as a nation, sold out to foreign countries. Our own people are dying from lack of healthcare.

We need to turn this around asap. We need to heal ourselves, before we even attempt to heal others.

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 15, 2016, 09:41 PM

5. I think it would certainly help. I saw a post here where someone had posted an article that said

the ACA was unsustainable but I can't remember who is was that posted it. This is from the CBO on the costs of the ACA at Fact Check
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/02/conflating-costs-of-the-aca/
The CBO presented its updated estimates on the Affordable Care Actís costs and impact on insurance coverage in a 15-page appendix. It estimated that the total net cost of the insurance coverage provisions of the law would be $1.35 trillion over 10 years, from 2016 through 2025. This net cost includes gross costs of $1.993 trillion, which includes spending on subsidies for insurance obtained through the exchanges, tax credits to small businesses and expanded Medicaid coverage, minus revenues of $643 billion, which includes penalty payments from those who donít obtain insurance and employers who donít provide it.

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Response to questionseverything (Original post)

Fri Jan 15, 2016, 09:11 PM

4. i don't know the answer to that. But I do know what premiums are so

High for so many that they cannot afford to actually see the doctor because deductibles and copayment.

Why do we pretend our healthcare plan is adequate or a success when millions are left out. Millions can't go to the doctor. And those who pay more than any other industrialized nation have worse outcomes. Only in America is mediocrity considered successful.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 15, 2016, 09:42 PM

6. You get one no copay doctor's visit per year

 

It is in the law.

My co pay is ten bucks and I go twice a year now, after going over 15 years without seeing a doctor.

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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 15, 2016, 09:50 PM

8. If you have a chronic ilness that isn't shit.

You need to see the doctor frequently. There are MANY people who can't afford that ten dollars.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 15, 2016, 09:51 PM

9. I am pro single payer and pro Bernie.

 


But I do think that Obamacare/ACA was a big step in the right direction.


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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 15, 2016, 09:54 PM

10. I am not disputing that. It is a blessing to many. It is a nightmare to many as well.

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Response to questionseverything (Original post)

Fri Jan 15, 2016, 09:48 PM

7. I did a quick Google search and came up with this....

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/09/obamacare-subsidies-cbo_n_6831502.html

^snip^

Obamacare Subsidies To Cost Less Than Expected, CBO Says


WASHINGTON -- The price tag for Obamacare will be lower than previously expected, independent federal auditors reported Monday in the latest downward revision of the cost to taxpayers of reducing the number of uninsured Americans.

Net spending on subsidies for private health insurance and greater enrollment in Medicaid and the Children's Health Insurance Program will total $1.2 trillion from next year through 2025. That's 11 percent less than the Congressional Budget Office projected just two months ago. The new estimate doesn't account for spending cuts and tax increases in the law, which the budget agency previously projected would result in a net decrease in the federal budget deficit because of Obamacare.

A continuing, historic slowdown in the growth of national spending on health care during recent years is one major reason for the Congressional Budget Office and Joint Committee on Taxation's re-evaluation of the Affordable Care Act's cost. Economists agree that the recession and slow recovery played a major role in keeping down health care spending as Americans' wallets were tight, and experts predict that spending will rise more quickly as the economy continues to improve. No consensus has emerged regarding the influence of Obamacare's cost-containment initiatives on this trend, but the congressional scorekeepers have incorporated lower health care spending and lower premiums into their calculations.

"Although it is unclear how much of that slowdown is attributable to the recession and its aftermath and how much to other factors, the slower growth has been sufficiently broad and persistent to persuade CBO and JCT to significantly lower their projection of federal costs for health care," the new report concludes.




Keep in mind that we will also have the money from the VA and Tricare and Medicaid and costs from sending taxpayer money to private insurance companies for government employees etc etc etc.




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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:31 PM

11. the cost from the care provided would still be there

(altho they could be lowered thru negotiation with sp)

i would think combining some of the healthcare programs would save some money if only on admin costs

the premium subsidies and the penalties are already being paid by we the people so i just wonder how far we are from having the cost of sp covered

people keep saying we want "free" stuff, i say we just want what we already paid for

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Response to questionseverything (Original post)

Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:33 PM

12. $100 billion a year, give or take (nt)

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Response to Recursion (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:37 PM

13. if you have a link with the subsidies separate from the other costs

i would like to see it pls

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