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So we've moved from, "Bernie will never be president" to... (Original Post) Bernin4U Jan 2016 OP
I haven't moved from he will never be president yet. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #1
He has a much better shot of working with a GOP than Hillary does! merrily Jan 2016 #3
Absolutely true on both counts. pangaia Jan 2016 #5
It will be a close election no matter who we nominate. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #6
I don't think the election will be close, but, then again, neither of us has a crystal ball. merrily Jan 2016 #7
We disagree and we can leave it at that. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #8
You know how to leave a discussion on a board? merrily Jan 2016 #9
We are never going to convince each other so... n/t. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #10
That wasn't my question, but, apparently, the answer to the question I actually merrily Jan 2016 #11
+1 BeanMusical Jan 2016 #19
Ah, new shoes! merrily Jan 2016 #21
Be my guest. BeanMusical Jan 2016 #24
. Perogie Jan 2016 #16
Lol in your mind only. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #17
In more minds than you may realize. bvf Jan 2016 #20
You should really change your signature retrowire Jan 2016 #25
Yes, very childish. BeanMusical Jan 2016 #27
Sorry my sigline is not as stately as yours! hrmjustin Jan 2016 #50
If your sig line was a picture: BeanMusical Jan 2016 #52
It stays. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #32
stamping of the feet continues retrowire Jan 2016 #33
Are you going to ask people who have sig lines that are negative about Hillary to take it down? hrmjustin Jan 2016 #34
if they're shouting like that and are doing so retrowire Jan 2016 #35
The ignore function is at your disposal. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #36
hey you've got freedom of speech it's cool retrowire Jan 2016 #37
Yet you keep going go and on about it. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #41
i cant view images on my phone retrowire Jan 2016 #42
"Yet you keep going go and on about it." BeanMusical Jan 2016 #44
oh the irony of this comment rbrnmw Jan 2016 #43
Hmmm, interesting question. Have you gotten an answer? George II Jan 2016 #45
Just excuses. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #46
I haven't seen any comments about this though: George II Jan 2016 #48
And that person who had that called my sigline childish. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #49
Sorry, mine too! cannabis_flower Jan 2016 #54
Absolute numbers are irrelevant -- comparatively they are telling. There is a difference. n/t JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #13
^ This x3! n/t bvf Jan 2016 #18
So will Clinton Matariki Jan 2016 #12
Will there be a GOP House with Clinton? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #23
That's so true -- because the GOP House just LOOOOOVES them some Hillary Clinton! Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #51
I haven't moved. He will never be president! leftofcool Jan 2016 #2
Tell me that after the primaries are over RoccoR5955 Jan 2016 #15
The moving goal posts create quite a draft and the double standards create quite a laugh. merrily Jan 2016 #4
The next step: BeanMusical Jan 2016 #28
I can live with that! merrily Jan 2016 #29
lol...Obama Way More Paralyzed billhicks76 Jan 2016 #14
ATTENTION CLINTON SUPPORTERS: Indepatriot Jan 2016 #22
Kick and R BeanMusical Jan 2016 #26
We will LOSE much less ground if Bernie becomes President. We might even actually GAIN some ground. stillwaiting Jan 2016 #30
Nope. I still think he will never be president. eom lunamagica Jan 2016 #31
No, I'm still in the Bernie will NEVER be President, camp nt Sheepshank Jan 2016 #38
No, I still think he can't get elected... brooklynite Jan 2016 #39
Only a moderate UglyGreed Jan 2016 #40
What the Hell cannabis_flower Jan 2016 #55
I think that is what UglyGreed Jan 2016 #56
If he's gaining in popularity it's because of his message with the people and if they CTyankee Jan 2016 #47
Very kind of camp Clinton to move the goalposts mid-game. eom Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #53
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
1. I haven't moved from he will never be president yet.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:05 AM
Jan 2016

And my point is if he does he will have to get things done with a gop house.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
3. He has a much better shot of working with a GOP than Hillary does!
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:09 AM
Jan 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1009929

Also a much better shot at coattails and at beating the Republican in the general.
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
6. It will be a close election no matter who we nominate.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:13 AM
Jan 2016

The general election polls now are meaningless.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
7. I don't think the election will be close, but, then again, neither of us has a crystal ball.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:19 AM
Jan 2016

If Hillary is the nominee, I think she'll lose the general decisively. If Bernie is the nominee, I think he'll win it decisively.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
25. You should really change your signature
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 04:28 AM
Jan 2016

It's reminiscent of stomping your feet, folding your arms and pouting.

Tis better to proclaim what you're for rather than what you're against. It's just a really negative mindset going on. Not healthy.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
34. Are you going to ask people who have sig lines that are negative about Hillary to take it down?
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 12:30 PM
Jan 2016

Are you going to be consistent?

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
35. if they're shouting like that and are doing so
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 12:53 PM
Jan 2016

without legitimate critique then sure.

but I can't recall seeing any sigs like that.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
37. hey you've got freedom of speech it's cool
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:04 PM
Jan 2016

but everyone else reserves the right to make judgment based on that.

I don't need to ignore you as really, your sig just gets pity from me, it's no skin off my back. but I'm only advising you that it looks childish. it's really not becoming of a democrat who wants progress.

it's just an echo of someone who'd rather get in the way then lend a hand. :/

that's what people see when they read that. see, if you had a critique of Bernie then it would seem more helpful to those who want to know "why not Bernie?" but your Sig is just, "I see the flow and I will NOT go with it, harumph"

ease up, and lend a hand. it doesn't have to be to Bernie. but, come on.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
41. Yet you keep going go and on about it.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:08 PM
Jan 2016



Try being consistent. Start with the ridiculous sigline above.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
42. i cant view images on my phone
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jan 2016

I can keep going on and on, just like you can keep flying that flag of sig. lol

didn't you mention an ignore feature or something?

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
43. oh the irony of this comment
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:21 PM
Jan 2016

I always lend a hand wherever I go. I have been lending a hand to help candidates from the Democratic Party since 1976, when I was 7. I have only missed 2 elections since 1987, when I was on bedrest and when I moved and missed the deadline to register. My vote is important to me.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
51. That's so true -- because the GOP House just LOOOOOVES them some Hillary Clinton!
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:23 PM
Jan 2016

If there's one thing those nutjobs can't get enough of, it's Hillary! They can't WAIT to cooperate with her!

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
14. lol...Obama Way More Paralyzed
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 02:32 AM
Jan 2016

He refused to play hardball and so much racism make it hard. Hillary would be the same.

 

Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
22. ATTENTION CLINTON SUPPORTERS:
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:49 AM
Jan 2016

Lift with your legs, not your back, while moving those goal posts........ then agin, you'd have less to worry about with Single Payer, Medicare for all healthcare.....

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
30. We will LOSE much less ground if Bernie becomes President. We might even actually GAIN some ground.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:47 AM
Jan 2016

By that I mean we might actually have a MORE progressive Congress at the end of his term after having a President that talks to the American people and tells them what IS possible (not what ISN'T possible).

We would be building a progressive movement with Bernie as President, and that would take some time. How long just might be much less than Bernie's detractors are willing to admit though.

Bottom line: Bernie as President BEGINS the conversation of building a progressive movement and telling the American people we can do it and HOW to do it.

Hillary as President ensures that none of that happens. After her Presidency we will not have even begun to build on truly progressive principles. Hillary will tell us why we CAN'T have progressive policies implemented and she will convince some Democrats that this is the truth.

We can not afford Hillary when we have a candidate like Bernie running. It would be a very unwise move.

brooklynite

(94,535 posts)
39. No, I still think he can't get elected...
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:06 PM
Jan 2016

...AND I think people should be realistic with their expectations in the unlikely event that he does.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
47. If he's gaining in popularity it's because of his message with the people and if they
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 06:33 PM
Jan 2016

believe in his message then they will go out in droves to vote on their issues and the House and Senate will change. Then he can get something done.

If the people feel hopeful that things can change, why wouldn't they vote accordingly in the other offices?

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