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Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 12:58 PM Jan 2016

The positive cases for both Hillary and Bernie

I'm only focusing on the positive here!

Hillary:
1) first woman president-- breaking the glass ceiling-- is huge, transformative
2) she has extensive government experience at the highest levels, knows how things work in US government
3) she will be very strong on women's rights, reproductive rights, family issues
4) she will be strong on minority rights
5) she recognizes the importance of climate change and action on transitioning to a renewable energy economy
6) she will stand up to the NRA
7) she will be pro-environment
8) she will fight for improving the healthcare system and giving healthcare to all Americans
9) she will appoint good people to the Supreme Court
10) she will drive Republicans bonkers, much like Obama did.

Bernie:
1) more than any other candidate, he recognizes of the problem of America becoming a plutocracy; he is a major champion of fixing the massive problem of income inequality, and will really work to fix what has become a corrupt system, especially the banking system. He would be transformative in this regard.
2) he has government experience at the highest level; he knows how things work, he also has executive experience
3) he will be very strong on women's rights, reproductive rights, family issues
4) he will be very strong on minority rights
5) he strongly recognizes the importance of climate change and action on transitioning to a renewable energy economy
6) he has incredible integrity; he will not be in the thrall of corporations
7) he will be pro-environment
8) he will fight for improving the healthcare system and giving healthcare to all Americans
9) he will appoint good people to the Supreme Court
10) he will drive Republicans bonkers, much like Obama did.
11) he would be the first non-Christian elected to the presidency, and first Jew.
12) he recognizes the problem of endless, needless wars, and the power of the military industrial complex and how much money is sucked into it.

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The positive cases for both Hillary and Bernie (Original Post) Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 OP
Very good list! cheapdate Jan 2016 #1
No way I'd prefer a GOP candidate over either of them but Jarqui Jan 2016 #2
Well said. nt artislife Jan 2016 #3
Ditto to the tenth power:) litlbilly Jan 2016 #4
+1000 nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #5
I definitely prefer Bernie, BUT Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #6
Nice post. Thank you for staying positive. K & R nt Persondem Jan 2016 #7

Jarqui

(10,124 posts)
2. No way I'd prefer a GOP candidate over either of them but
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 01:25 PM
Jan 2016

the last few days have convinced me that Bernie would be the better president.

Bernie has a real rudder. He know what he believes and why. He's consistent. He can be honest about it and has been. He can compromise to get things done, etc. He's got wisdom based upon common sense. He's a solid, decent, principled human being truly interested in helping Americans more than taking money from special interests and lusting for power like Hillary.

The last few days remind me of the difference between Obama and McCain when McCain suspended his campaign while Obama stayed calm and cool. During the 2008 primary, Obama stayed calm and cool under pressure while Hillary and her campaign flew off the handle. In 2016, we're seeing more of the same: quick, thoughtless reactions to developments or circumstances instead of calm, cool and carefully considered leadership. That's a disturbing pattern from Hillary over a long span of years.

Recently, once again, like the bogus "shame on you Barack Obama" Hillary claim of 2008, we've seen Hillary and her campaign lash out, get dishonest and mean. That's not a good trait for someone who would be walking around with launch codes (not that she's certain to use them but she's looking more likely than Bernie).

And we've seen the result of "no drama Obama" compared to past administrations. We have not been overwhelmed by scandals in the administration with the biggest being ... Hillary.

How Hillary has run her last two national campaigns is indicative of how she'll lead the country - just like we saw with the Obama campaigns and how he ran his administration. I question her ability to do the job well because she is reactive, like McCain doesn't think things through and will quickly resort to dishonesty like she did this week and has done her whole career. She's not locked down in her beliefs - she'll opportunistically flip-flop like McCain to whatever way might get her more votes. Her primary principle seems to be to get power.

I'm more positive than ever before that Bernie will make a much better president than Hillary. I have absolutely no doubt about it now.

Win or lose, I think I'll always have the utmost respect for Bernie Sanders. He gave a lot of good people in America really good things to hope for based upon honesty, decency, fairness, respect for his dishonest opponent and a plausible path to get them. That's really good leadership.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
6. I definitely prefer Bernie, BUT
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:31 PM
Jan 2016

since Hillary may still be our nominee, I don't want to tear her down too much (as easy as it might be to do).

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