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NRaleighLiberal

(60,029 posts)
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:33 PM Jan 2016

I am not watching or listening - but reading here, and these gems from Josh Marshall

TPM does a good job live blogging the debates. These comments caught my eye

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/

9:54 PM: I have to say, it's such an odd thing to watch Clinton and Sanders fight. Because when I watch them fight, I like them both better.

this is is really telling

10:05 PM: I will say that this debate is a good example of how moderator questions contain a mix of implicit ignorance and conservative bias when it comes to tax policy. It's a very crisp question to say, well Bernie Sanders you've described all these awesome new programs but you've been less clear on how you'd pay for it!!! But as Sanders noted, that's just not true. He's been quite clear on a series of taxes he'd raise. The question is just false and makes sense only in the context of throwing a cliche at the candidate. It's also willfully obtuse not to understand that taxes raised to pay for a single payer health care plan aren't in a very meaningful sense offset and more than offset by no longer paying health care insurance premiums. I mean good lord, a simple point. I just pulled out one of my payroll spreadsheets. TPM spends substantially more in health care insurance premiums than it does it employment taxes. This isn't directly comparable to individuals and their income taxes. But again, the basic point is really clear.

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I am not watching or listening - but reading here, and these gems from Josh Marshall (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Jan 2016 OP
He's exactly right about the biased talking heads. They're fawning all over Clinton, ignoring Martin in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #1

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
1. He's exactly right about the biased talking heads. They're fawning all over Clinton, ignoring Martin
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:39 PM
Jan 2016

throwing hardball lies at Bernie. They truly SUCK.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

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