Washington Post - Sanders won the 4th Democratic Debate

[Quixote1818]

By Chris Cillizza

The fourth Democratic presidential debate -- and the last one before the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary next month -- is in the books. The best and the worst from the night are below. And make sure to check out our annotated debate transcript!

Winners

* Bernie Sanders: Yes, Sanders has one volume: Shouting. And, yes, he got tripped up a few times during the debate on his voting record -- especially on guns. But, throughout the debate's first hour -- the hour when most people, especially on the east coast and in the midwest, were watching -- he was the prime mover in virtually every discussion from Wall Street reform to healthcare to climate change. He was on offense, accusing Hillary Clinton of half-measures and political caution at a moment when boldness is required.

Sanders held his own in the foreign policy focused second hour of the debate, something he had failed to do in debates past. And, he had one of his best moments of the debate at an unlikely time -- in response to a question about his criticism of Bill Clinton's behavior. Sanders turned the question into one focused on how the campaign he is running is about policy not personal differences -- to much applause.

More than anything he said though, it was the passion and disruption that Sanders oozed from every pore over the two hours that should convince Democrats on the fence about the race into his camp. Sanders effectively positioned himself as the anti-status quo candidate in this race, a very good place to be in this electoral environment.


More: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/winners-and-losers-from-the-4th-democratic-presidential-debate/ar-BBolojN?ocid=spartandhp

[Uncle Joe]

1. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Quixote.

[peacebird]

2. K&R!

[Duckfan]

3. Damn! Thank you Chris.

That's one hell of a review.

[Populist_Prole]

4. Oh yes

Lots of hot sweaty collars at camp corporate.

[merrily]

5. Oh, but

that's only the internet WAPO.

This is impressive because Cillizza's been touting Hillary all along.

[dsc]

13. No he hasn't

the man literally got fired for calling her a bitch in 2008. No really, he did. He has no business at all writing about her. If he had called Sanders a Hebe he wouldn't be covering Sanders.

[merrily]

14. Actually, he has. I've heard him. 2008 was a very different ballgame.

[dsc]

15. No he most certainly hasn't

he wrote over 50 articles for the post about the server for instance. He clearly hates Hillary, again if a reporter had called Sanders a Hebe and then wrote negative stuff about him, I would dismiss it out of hand. But I guess bitch is just fine.

[merrily]

16. He's favored Hillary over Sanders.

But I guess bitch is just fine.

You're the only one who has typed anything remotely like that.

[Armstead]

19. He's an equal opportunity offender

He's basically a typical snarky "insider" type of journalistic "analyst.".

[Eric J in MN]

6. RE: 'Sanders has one volume: Shouting.'

Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton both used harsh tones-of-voice in last night's debate.

Whichever one of them is the nominee, I'm hoping for a gentler tone-of-voice in the general election debates.

[Democat]

7. A gentler tone when one of the GOP nominees is involved?

I doubt it.

I am just hoping that whichever democrat is nominated, we can all stand behind him or her.

[Eric J in MN]

9. Or a smoother tone or a more-pleasant tone.

Check out how smooth-and-pleasant Obama's voice is while debating Mitt Romney:

[Democat]

12. It's possible but Trump is no Romney

Some of the right wing choices this time having nothing but shouting going for them.

[Enthusiast]

8. Kicked and recommended! nt

[sorechasm]

10. Hillary named-dropped all night. Yet from WP's Chris Cillizza, she's a loser because:

So, why is she in the loser column? Because she did nothing in the debate to slow the momentum that Sanders is building in Iowa and New Hampshire. Aside from guns, where Clinton scored a clean hit on Sanders, she was unable to effectively cast him as a pie-in-the-sky idealist and herself as the only person who could truly fight -- and win -- for Democratic priorities.

Chris Cillizza is feeling the Bern?

[Paka]

11. K&R

[nashville_brook]

17. that's a big deal coming from Cillizza

[dsc]

18. yeah who knew the guy who literally got fired for calling Hillary a bitch

thinks she is a loser. I mean, just wow. I guess next she will have Scaife criticise her.

[nashville_brook]

20. yeah, you must not read The Fix very often.

[dsc]

21. enough to see 50 articles about email

all authored by him. Again, surprise surprise he hates Hillary I am shocked I tell you just shocked.

[nashville_brook]

22. uh, not sure what you're reading, but enjoy!

[dsc]

24. This is what I am referring to

so you can stop implying I am a liar anytime now.

http://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2015/09/25/50-headlines-that-reveal-wash-post-reporter-chr/205765

[JRLeft]

26. I'm a Bernie supporter but Chris is a political hack.

[firebrand80]

23. who cares what the corporate M$M thinks nt

[Douglas Carpenter]

25. knr

[Babel_17]

29. "MMfA was founded in 2004 by journalist and political activist David Brock"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Matters_for_America

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brock

[Babel_17]

31. I posted about that*

But Brock remains a prince of sleazy ethics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brock

*http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141317462#post9

[Babel_17]

34. Lol (you didn't read what was at the link)

So you're a fan of Brock? After what he did to Anita Hill? And while he still plays by the same rules?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Anita_Hill

Cilliza is an equal opportunity click hound. Pretty representative of his trade.

[Babel_17]

37. Writing about what led to her FBI problems isn't hate (though it reflects some opportunism)

Cillizza has been a major contributor to this effort, repeatedly claiming the email story "just keeps getting worse" and that it's "not going away," while claiming Clinton has an "honesty problem" and should "start panicking."

That's not hate, that's pretty much conventional wisdom at the moment.

[RiverLover]

28. He was on fire. Best debate so far!

[ViseGrip]

35. Why did she keep hugging the status quo from banks to healthcare to campaign finance??????

How stupid! Men in Iowa who were listening will not vote for her. Bookmark this post!