2016 Postmortem
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(45,251 posts)How much do you think Milania (sp?) would love The Donald if he were a poor, homeless man?
Taking hundred millionaires and billionaires as one class, and destitute people as a second class, in which class would you find more happy people, bearing in mind no one is perfectly happy all the time?
As for that Bernie Sanders, he is so deep in the pocket of Big Voter, it's not even funny! And then, there was that $500,000+ from a PAC associated with a union of nurses who are just evil enough to support Medicare for All. Please, Louise!
Fearless
(18,421 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)older, less attractive man with power and bundles of money? I do.
Do I think more destitute people are unhappy than billionaires? I do.
When the wind chill was about 10 degrees in Boston last week, I saw a homeless woman with an old coat and a thin blanket around her shoulders trying to stay out of the way of early morning customers in a convenience store that looks the other way for her. (I think they look the other way only because she is the only homeless person I've ever seen in my neighborhood. If five or ten homeless people were lurking in those narrow aisles, I think they might call the cops.)
By the time I left the store, she was back on the street, huddling up against a building with an awning. She didn't look anywhere near as happy as Warren Buffet.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Lust, sure, it's the world oldest profession. Not love. And money does not buy happiness. Money does not make people happy.
merrily
(45,251 posts)GeoWilliam750
(2,522 posts)But it sure can get you some mighty fine rentals
Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)It will allow you to be miserable in comfort.
merrily
(45,251 posts)a hell of a lot more happiness than desperate need of money can buy.
As a book title says,
I've Been Rich and I've Been Poor
And Rich is Better.
Greed, on the other hand, which can be found in all income levels, stinks.
Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)In David Copperfield, Mr Micawaber says, "Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen pounds nineteen and six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds nought and six, result misery."
And you are not really disagreeing with me or my father, since we weren't speaking of a lack of money bringing unhappiness.
murielm99
(30,739 posts)He sure likes the infrastructure of the Democratic Party. That has been put together by hard work and MONEY, by Democratic loyalists.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Saying that 90% of the people here that vote are not real Democrats and do not fight for Democratic values or candidates. Yeah it looks like a winner you got there.
murielm99
(30,739 posts)I believe a lot of them who have come here as Bernie "supporters" are not Democrats of any kind.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)The Democratic Party is being overtaken by people who are not Democrats. Bernie has over 40% support in a whole lot of states.
senz
(11,945 posts)He's a hell of a lot more high-minded than you give him credit for. In fact, he's a hell of a lot more high-minded than about 90% of all politicians everywhere. And that's conservative estimate.
He's also the most democratic/Democratic candidate running.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Last edited Wed Jan 20, 2016, 05:31 AM - Edit history (1)
with a major Party infrastructure behind you. Running for the Senate or for Congress or for Mayor is much easier if you have either the Democratic Party or the Republican Party behind you. Sanders ran for all those. However, he ran as Indie, though that was harder, because he never wanted to be beholden to big donors of a party. He's not running as an Indie now because he promised long ago that he would not run for President as a "spoiler." However, he is still not--so far--beholden to any big party donors. He is running on small donations, even though that, too, is harder.
And, if he ran as an Indie and split the vote in the general, you'd love that, right?
Proserpina
(2,352 posts)All he's benefiting from is the label. Because being a Democrat used to mean something. And with Bernie, being a Democrat has meaning again!
I would argue that the Democratic Party is the real beneficiary, from having Bernie as its leading candidate. The swell of enthusiasm, the growth in membership, the outpouring of volunteers...all this can translate into a healthy, vital, growing organization....if DWS doesn't manage to kill it.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)Just ask trump and palin
Proserpina
(2,352 posts)Good for those that can afford them, but after a certain point, ethics get in the way of satisfying greed.