2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary’s New Mouthpiece McCaskill Attacks Bernie Sanders: BIG MISTAKE
With these attacks Bernie Sanders will get name recognition because.
People will ask, Who is this guy that is rising in the polls against Hillary?
I think the Hillary campaign has gone beyond NH and IA and has polled Nev (not liking what they find)
And in SC (I dont care what the media says) Bernie is gaining there too.
So Hillary knows that 3 loses in a row will put her on track for a repeat of 2008 and that would be great for humanity.
Obviously Hillary cannot run on the issues.
Would someone that is close to the Hillary Clinton campaign,please check to see if Karl Rove joined her team recently?
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)In English next time though.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)does it lead to potions where one makes you bigger and one makes you smaller and one doesn't do anything at all?
pangaia
(24,324 posts)You made my day !!!
Feed your head !!
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I listen to music from most eras I think. I like pan flutes and those go waaaaaaaaaaaaay back.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I always looked up to the older kids.
In a presentation for a class I was taking with 20-somethings about 15 years ago, I illustrated some points with quotes from Alice in Wonderland and included a homemade poster with related visuals. In the lower right hand corner I printed the phrase, "Feed your head."
People liked the poster, but no one, not one person, remarked on that bit. I realized none of them could remember that stunning song -- and felt a little sorry for 'em.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)-yes, RECORD.. not viy-null !
In fact, I have it right here next to me.. PINK, remember?
RCA # AYL1-3738
SURREALISTIC PILLOW -- 2 minutes and twenty-seven seconds ..
senz
(11,945 posts)One of the things I'm most grateful for is having been young and aware in the Sixties, because I would not have missed that amazing -- still unbelievable -- time for anything. If I ever feel jaded about "people," all I have to do is remember the mind-expanding openness, gentleness, and love that permeated everyone and everything in that specific subculture. But it didn't last long, just a few sweet years.
Still, what a memory.
Everyone, or maybe most, feel they came of age in the best period. And of course I do as well. I would not have traded it for anything. it went a long way into bring out in me who I am..
It was not an easy time. Three horrendous assassinations, for starters.
But the creativity was just astounding.
arikara
(5,562 posts)2 years ago I took a 4 month class with 10 millennial girls... I was 58. I grew up on a farm with no running water or electricity my music was an Elvis Lp played on a battery operated turntable. I still don't have a smart phone because I don't want to walk around poking at a tiny keyboard.
They were nice kids but I still felt like a stranger in a strange land. Until then I had no idea how very large a generation gap can be.
...you ARE having fun with it, aren't you?
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)But, seriously I don't know what this poster is saying. I think it is in, English. I can't be sure of that. I haven't heard word salad like that since Palin's last boozy endorsement of Trump.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)eggplant
(3,911 posts)...because they are one hide away from the time-out box.
Hard to alert on gibberish.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)It certainly isn't English.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Im wondering if there are any synapses to fire?
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)I'd think you were a secret Bernie supporter for all your incomprehensible one line mutterings in so many threads. Other Hillary supporters must dread whenever you enter a thread if you portend to represent them.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)Right fire hydrant running senator. The yellow stop signs will save Hillary negative campaign.
There! Fixed so that others can comprehend!
TheBlackAdder
(28,194 posts).
Right-wing author, F. A. Hayek, wrote a book called "The Road to Serfdom." It came down hard on "Social Engineers" that try to mould the government in a manner they see fit, where the ultimate result is an authoritarian state.
Here's an NYT article professing that Bill Clinton was called this by GHWB's campaign:
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/09/18/us/the-1992-campaign-the-republicans-bush-paints-clinton-as-social-engineer.html
Mr. Bush made no attempt today to explain or minimize the economy's present problems. Instead, he argued that the real danger facing the nation is that voters will "grasp change blindly, without considering seriously where these changes will lead us or what they mean in our daily lives."
"At a decisive moment in history comes your choice about who should lead the American economy: the government planner or the entrepreneur, the risk-taker," the President said. "This is the most fundamental disagreement between us: whether the driving engine of growth is government interventionism or entrepreneurial capitalism." Risk-Taker Turned Politician
This really sounds familiar.
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rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)INdemo
(6,994 posts)Clara,Clara Clara
My Grammpa had this saying and it would fit in here .....
Well Clara and Hillary,I think you just shit in your nest !!!
Response to Ferd Berfel (Reply #2)
INdemo This message was self-deleted by its author.
RKP5637
(67,108 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)Senator Tankerbell
(316 posts)A lot of people don't realize how wealthy Claire is.
https://www.google.com/search?q=claire+mccaskill+net+worth
bjobotts
(9,141 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)The Center for Responsive Politics ranks McCaskill as the 12th-richest of 100 senators, with a net worth between $15.6 million and $27.5 million.
840high
(17,196 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I was not aware of this. Jeebus!
senz
(11,945 posts)Too little, if it doesn't kill us, makes us desperate and too much much makes us coarse.
If we could adopt Bernie's plans, we'd have far fewer, if any, extremely poor people and fewer obscenely rich ones. We'd all be better off, too.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Everytime she's up for re-election, many progressives dread voting for her again.
beltanefauve
(1,784 posts)of having to vote for Feinstein in my state.
Ranking 12th richest senator also puts her up there with Feinstein.
Yupy
(154 posts)Bjornsdotter
(6,123 posts)...she insulted me too. I, like Bernie, am a Democratic Socialist. Senator McCaskill should educate herself on the differences between Democratic Socialism and Socialism.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Love Pap's head shake before the clip runs. Exactly how I feel.
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Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)beltanefauve
(1,784 posts)the nomination, she has alienated a lot of people who will be needed to help Hill win the general.
Bjornsdotter
(6,123 posts)It's hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube.
Thenewire
(130 posts)Is Sanders free of criticism?
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Or are you just afraid to take on the establishment and go for real changes?
navarth
(5,927 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)No, he is not free of criticism. However, when smearmongering teabagger tactics are used they will be called out and slammed.
Do you support and agree with McCaskill?
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libdem4life
(13,877 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts).
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)sarge43
(28,941 posts)The USSR crashed and burned a quarter century ago. Give it up, Hills.
Plus, a lot of us from that time remember what was done to people in the name of 'protecting us from the Red Menace'. It was wrong then; it's worse today.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)bjobotts
(9,141 posts)Saying he was too inexperienced to be president. That it takes someone with hers or McCain's experience to be president. I'll vote for her because she's a democrat but I support Bernie...a man of the people. FDR was also a Democratic Socialist. Medicare, ,SS, Medicaid, our national highway system are all democratic socilist programs. Democratic Socialism is the only form of government which both ensures our freedom and our survival. Without a government of the people there would be no entity large enough to keep these corporations from doing whatever they wanted to do. We choose what we will all come together to use to maintain our society and nationalize it. Democratic Socialism has been practiced here in America since it was founded.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)McCaskill is just displaying her willful ignorance with her Red-baiting, and I don't think
many people will be swayed by it, if any.
She's a piece of work, but not in a good way.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Smearmongering with a teabagger idea is so low. And blaming the MSM. I think I might have heard her say "Lamestream Media", anyone else hear that?
Time to get rid of that DINO.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)cui bono
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cui bono
(19,926 posts)It's so scary to see people on a political message board be blind followers and idol worshippers. Of course some people are operatives and some might even be bots based on the automated types of responses that have nothing to do with what they are responding to.
So glad Sanders is running...
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Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)banks. Hillary+truth+speaking+is.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)And I think the code writing was outsourced to China based on the broken English.
Turns out though, even AI can get a timeout. 7 hides! So thankful, they won't be back for 2 months! Unless the code wasn't written to keep trying to post after that long.
Even though the posts were so stupid it was like an annoying gnat you just couldn't get rid of. And I really hate to see someone smear and slander Thom Hartmann and Bernie constantly with blatant lies.
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WillyT
(72,631 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)Gothmog
(145,231 posts)If you are running to the nominee of a political party, you have to care about down ballot races. Sanders is not only not raising funds for the Democratic party, he may have an adverse effect on down ballot races http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mccaskill-wants-bernie-sanders-is-liability-in-2016
The Republicans wont touch him because they cant wait to run an ad with a hammer and sickle, McCaskill told the New York Times.
Other Democrats, including Gov. Jack Markell of Delaware, told the New York Times that that Sanders could endanger Democrats running in more purple states, like Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, where Democrats are hanging their aspirations to take back the Senate in 2016.
Recent polls have shown Sanders gaining momentum in early states. A CNN poll Tuesday showed him leading Clinton by 27 points in New Hampshire and Des Moines Register poll found him closing the gap in Iowa.
Wednesday, the criticism continued as McCaskill stood by her concerns about Sanders. In an interview with NBC, McCaskill said it was "absolutely impossible" for him to win in her home state of Missouri. She also warned that Sanders was untested. While Republicans have targeted Hillary Clinton in attacks since they hit the campaign trail, Sanders has so far been left unscathed.
What is wrong with being concerned about down ballot races?
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)then consider that DWS has actively campaigned for Republicans, against Democratic contenders, she needs to go before that argument has any traction.
Bernie is getting young people to the polls, which is the first step to electing anybody, Hillary and the DNC are trying to hide that an election is even going on. What are they even doing with all that cash they are raising?
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)she endorsed an incumbent republican candidate ... actually two brothers, when she was in the House (2008?), with whom she had developed a working relationship.
The fact is, she just did not endorse or campaign for the republican candidates ... but she didn't work for the Democratic candidate (that had no shot of winning) either.
So in DU interpretation, NOT campaigning for the Democrat equals "actively campaign" for the republican.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Lage Nom Ai
(74 posts)I guess the party should make sure those candidates share the same vision as the top of the ticket.
murielm99
(30,740 posts)But that makes her a mouthpiece, dontcha know. Anyone who expresses the tiniest bit of doubt, or the smallest criticism of Bernie is under the bus.
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)a conservative article tearing apart a liberal. Should the Democratic party move farther right in your opinion?
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)A large number of Texans are working to turn Texas blue and we do not want to see our hard work undone
Lage Nom Ai
(74 posts)means nothing if you have to give up your Liberal principals and become Republican-Lite, sorry.
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)There are a large number of good Democrats working to turn Texas blue
Lage Nom Ai
(74 posts)But even on this post we have to disagree. A good Democrat stands by their principals and refuses to move farther right, even at a cost of votes. If they don't the Democratic party just becomes the moderate wing of the Republican party, IMO. Good luck to you and your Candidate.
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)If you do not win, then you have no power at all.
When you win at the cost of your principals what have you won?
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)There are a large number of good Democrats living in red states who are working hard to change things. It is hard work but I live in the real world
Lage Nom Ai
(74 posts)If you move farther to the right you are not changing a state but rather changing your party. We have moved more than enough. It is time for the right to move towards us. We need to ask ourselves what do we give up this time to have them vote democrat? Eventually we will have nothing left to give and we will be republican.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)candidates do a good job of that on their own. 2014 was a disaster.
Maybe it has more to do with being Republican lite.
Try again.
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)Texas' issues in 2014 was largely due to the Texas voter id/voter suppression law The sole and only purpose for voter id laws is to suppress the vote and a new study out shows that these laws do suppress the vote. One Congressional seat went to the GOP due to the Texas voter id law according to this study http://www.texastribune.org/2015/08/06/study-law-discouraged-more-those-without-voter-id/
And the state's voter ID law coupled with lackluster voter education efforts might have shaped the outcome of a congressional race, the research suggests.
Released on Thursday, the 50th anniversary of the federal Voting Rights Act, the joint Rice University and University of Houston study found that 13 percent of those registered in the 23rd Congressional District and did not vote stayed home, at least partly, because they thought they lacked proper ID under a state law considered the strictest in the nation. And nearly 6 percent did not vote primarily because of the requirements.
But most of those discouraged Texans had the proper documents to vote, says the study, which came one day after a federal appeals court ruled that the four-year-old Texas law has a discriminatory effect on Hispanics and African-Americans....
Researchers focused on CD-23 largely because of its demographics and the neck-in-neck congressional race it held. CD-23 is seen as the state's only U.S. House district that's competitive between Republicans and Democrats. Roughly two-thirds of the voting age population is Hispanic.
Just 118,000 voters cast ballots in the race that saw U.S. Rep. Will Hurd, R-San Antonio, edge incumbent Pete Gallego, a Democrat from Alpine. The difference was about 2,400 votes.
Of those who said the state ID law discouraged them from voting, four to five times more said they would have voted for Gallego.
While the results of this survey do not allow us to conclude that Gallego would have been re-elected in the absence of the voter photo ID law, they do indicate that the law did have a disproportionate impact on his supporters, and therefore may have possibly cost him the election, the study said
The Rice/Baker institute did a good job here. Voter id laws depress voter turnout and it appears that Pete Gallego is not in Congress now due to this law.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)Explain the decades before voter ID.
It's the poor candidates that The Party has put forth ever since the Koch funded DLC.
The Party didn't even bother to question Ann Richards (the most popular governor in Texas modern history) loss to dipshit W.
I thought you were smarter than this.
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)Such chart is consistent with the real results of Texas when you compared 2010 to 2014
Voter id laws depress voter turnout according to the facts
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)this is dishonest. Voter suppression would not have happened here if the Democratic Party under the DLC had not abandoned us decades ago.
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)We have voter id because Nader cost Gore the 2000 election and allowed W to appoint two SCOTUS justices who were more conservative than Rehnquist or O'Connor. These appointments are the why we have a gutted voting rights act and Citizens United.
In Texas we fought the voter id law and luckily the DOJ joined the lawsuit and help get a ruling on that law that is under appeal.
If you apply the math of the Rice University/Baker Institute study to the entire state, Wendy Davis would have been very close. Texas will turn blue but it will take a great deal of hard work
global1
(25,247 posts)Mike__M
(1,052 posts)from now through 2018 and beyond.
There's a long list of premature endorsers who may have some explaining to do.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)say, what? Single Payer?
FlaGranny
(8,361 posts)If so, I got an e-mail from her this morning asking for a donation and saying that for the first time ever, she is being primaried by TWO different people.
Edit: Or, sorry, we're talking about McCaskill.
global1
(25,247 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)"as far as i know, he [obama] is christian."
the smears failed big time then and they will fail big time now.
and i agree, no way they don't have internals yet in nv or sc...its gonna be a bernie landslide and they know its comin...
lob1
(3,820 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)And DUers from Missouri were having a real bad time with the idea of having to vote for her.
Duval
(4,280 posts)xocet
(3,871 posts)Wow, she deserves derision for such a fallacious attack.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Sorry. It might not be fair but it's a toxic word in middle America. The Repugs would destroy Bernie.
xocet
(3,871 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)Just like '08...
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)mean. Don't like her politics, don't like her.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)After seeing McCaskill!
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Go soak your head.
I was going to say FUCK YOU McCaskill, you snot dripping little piece of shit..
But I won't..
I think you just did. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)Hillary was in Texas yesterday which makes me think she's worried about Texas. I have seen barely any Hillary signs or bumper stickers but plenty of Bernie stickers in Houston.
freebrew
(1,917 posts)couldn't help it, she's my senator.
Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)She'd be a republican if she lived in New England. I wish she did.
Truprogressive85
(900 posts)$5 donation towards Sen. Sanders coming his way
Thanks Claire McCaskill
senz
(11,945 posts)If we send money to Bernie every time someone attacks him from here on out, we just might take him to victory!
jomin41
(559 posts)this election is about the 99% and the 1%? Another "Sawbuck for Sanders" from me on the way!
senz
(11,945 posts)Sure sounds like she's begging the media to attack Bernie as "a socialist." She can't even say "democratic socialist."
Such dirt from people who call themselves Democrats.
We certainly are a big tent -- on all kinds of levels.
Stimoyo
(14 posts)Too centrist.
Too far right for my taste.
Welcome to DU!
EmperorHasNoClothes
(4,797 posts)Same people making the same kinds of attacks as they made against Obama in '08.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)I realize we barely missed having a bat shit crazy repuKKKe elected in her place, but can't Missouri come up with anybody better than this old battle ax?
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I'm just gonna say that, from now on. Because that response pretty much fits every damn HRC supporter's thread that comes up in GD.
Thank you.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)"Obviously Hillary cannot run on the issues"
Thanks Warren.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)that some of her supporters are turned off by the increasing negativity. Yes, I am speaking for myself! Go Bernie!