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William769

(55,146 posts)
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:51 AM Jan 2016

So this is what it's comming down to a really sad state of affairs.

Carl Wolfson Says He’s Ending His XRAY.FM Radio Show Because Bernie Sanders Supporters Have Gotten Too Nasty


Portland progressive talk-radio host Carl Wolfson has felt the Bern. And he says the personal attacks of Sen. Bernie Sanders' supporters are causing him to cancel his show.

Wolfson announced this morning on Facebook he's ending his morning politics talk show on XRAY.FM, citing the toll on his health and finances, the declining state of political discourse and the "vitriol of so many Bernie supporters" in the Democratic presidential primary race against Hillary Clinton.

"I have too little faith in politics to continue," he says.

"Carl in the Morning" debuted in March 2014 on KXRY 91.1 FM, better known as XRAY. It marked a return to the airwaves after Wolfson's left-wing drive-time talk show was dumped by Clear Channel, which turned KPOJ-AM 620 into a sports talk station in 2008.

This time, it's not a communications giant ending Wolfson's show: It's the host.

http://www.wweek.com/2016/01/20/carl-wolfson-says-hes-ending-his-xray-fm-radio-show-because-bernie-sanders-supporters-have-gotten-too-nasty/
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So this is what it's comming down to a really sad state of affairs. (Original Post) William769 Jan 2016 OP
Bernie caused him health problems made him bkkyosemite Jan 2016 #1
Does not say Bernie. William769 Jan 2016 #2
You too. draa Jan 2016 #28
Stay Classy? 3am called. pinebox Jan 2016 #43
Classy like setting up another web site to plot attacks on other DUers? (nt) jeff47 Jan 2016 #89
harpies enid602 Jan 2016 #36
It's Bernie Evil Eye and his army of brainwashed zombies. I'll quit my job, too, and start prepping leveymg Jan 2016 #91
So... kenfrequed Jan 2016 #3
Sanders supporters "label Hillary a “fascist” or the “spawn of Satan” and worse," riversedge Jan 2016 #4
Right... kenfrequed Jan 2016 #5
"a few trolls" William769 Jan 2016 #6
This saddens me a lot. I've been facebook friends with him, and have met him on many occasions... cascadiance Jan 2016 #14
Me too! Rockyj Jan 2016 #31
It's a classic GBCW statement and would be greeted with mass derision and ridicule were it to be an KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #48
Burned his bridges completely Arazi Jan 2016 #83
Politics are by nature, a passionate sport. Dustlawyer Jan 2016 #24
Damn well said. draa Jan 2016 #30
And HRC supporters are as pure as the newly fallen snow and NEVER said anything bad about Bernie. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #39
Translation - My ratings suck, So I am going to blame third parties hueymahl Jan 2016 #47
He blames Thom Hartmann and 90 hour work weeks too: beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #8
Bernie bros caused me to cancel my subscription to Turtle Fancy. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #7
Hahahaha!! beerandjesus Jan 2016 #21
Bernie bros made me stub my toe on the bathroom vanity, and I'm all out of band-aids! beerandjesus Jan 2016 #22
Bernie bros ate my box of turtles Autumn Jan 2016 #40
Berniebros gave me gout!!! Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2016 #58
Berniebros stole my thunder. oh wait. Hiraeth Jan 2016 #78
I have a question for you madokie Jan 2016 #9
Her tireless work on woman's issues William769 Jan 2016 #10
Just cut it out, she said. elias49 Jan 2016 #29
William took time to have a discussion and you come on with a smartypants snark. shameful. riversedge Jan 2016 #92
K&R betsuni Jan 2016 #11
Right, like vitriol during a campaign is a new phenomenon. marmar Jan 2016 #12
Progressives in every segment of society... NCTraveler Jan 2016 #13
... William769 Jan 2016 #15
perhaps if we were to focus on the gop? dembotoz Jan 2016 #16
Never heard of him. Sounds like he wasn't a good representative for liberals. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #17
If you can't take the heat..... morningfog Jan 2016 #18
The guy further talks about the stress of preparing for a two hour live show... little staff support Hoppy Jan 2016 #19
Radio is irrelevant anyway... Helen Borg Jan 2016 #20
He sounds like a fucking coward to me phleshdef Jan 2016 #23
Exhibit A Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #32
Exhibit my ass phleshdef Jan 2016 #33
Between the "fucking coward" Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #49
I don't call radio shows and I don't say nasty things about Clinton phleshdef Jan 2016 #65
At least he was willing to put his money and effort behind what he was passionate about politicaljunkie41910 Jan 2016 #66
I'm sorry but no matter what you say, blaming nasty callers.... phleshdef Jan 2016 #69
Please don't (exhibit your ass) Tanuki Jan 2016 #85
I would totally post a picture of my naked ass here and now if I could get away with it... phleshdef Jan 2016 #86
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2016 #73
Thom Hartmann handles it just fine. Does 3 hours on the radio every day, along bullwinkle428 Jan 2016 #25
I haven't listened to Hartmann in a long while, but this sounds like what I remember of him deutsey Jan 2016 #34
Yep. That's why I know the article in the op is one big pant load. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2016 #37
Norman Goldman as well. 3 hours/day and supports Hillary Clinton Arazi Jan 2016 #38
I've said it before,his supporters are his worst enemy.nt sufrommich Jan 2016 #26
Better to have the supporters be the worst thing rather than the CANDIDATE. nt artislife Jan 2016 #50
Beats the hell out of having your candidate's record and flip flops as your worst enemy. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2016 #55
Agreed Gothmog Jan 2016 #81
Even if all Bernie supporters were complete assholes... tk2kewl Jan 2016 #27
^^^This. artislife Jan 2016 #51
it's about ideas not personalities tk2kewl Jan 2016 #68
Yep. "The problem is is supporters" is a made-up thing... Orsino Jan 2016 #71
Call the WAAAAAAAAAAAAmbulance! Odin2005 Jan 2016 #35
Nothing wrong with Bernie Sanders. MineralMan Jan 2016 #41
Well MM here, let me help pinebox Jan 2016 #45
I don't know - I am a Bernie supporter but I've made it clear i will support HRC if she is the el_bryanto Jan 2016 #60
Many won't pinebox Jan 2016 #61
You mean the majority? el_bryanto Jan 2016 #62
This forum is tiny in all honesty pinebox Jan 2016 #63
So you don't figure catnhatnh Jan 2016 #80
WOW Gothmog Jan 2016 #42
Bernie's why there are no McRib's year around! pinebox Jan 2016 #44
And pumpkin spice lattes only in the fall...nt artislife Jan 2016 #52
That I can say thank God to! Shiver! pinebox Jan 2016 #54
LOL! I don't drink caffeine, or milk or fake flavors artislife Jan 2016 #57
In part he's a victim of Hillary's husband who helped make Clear Channel possible Armstead Jan 2016 #46
The fact that he may not see that artislife Jan 2016 #53
Sometimes there seems to be little connection made between cause and effect Armstead Jan 2016 #56
Sounds like our government and other governments artislife Jan 2016 #59
Speaking of Jane Goodall Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #64
The actions of some does not mean the actions of all artislife Jan 2016 #70
I don't even know who you are Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #72
... artislife Jan 2016 #74
??? Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #75
Yeah, those cruel Sanders supporters are the meanest listeners out there. Orsino Jan 2016 #67
What would we do without our daily "Sander's supporters are so mean" post? notadmblnd Jan 2016 #76
on edit: coming Hiraeth Jan 2016 #77
Pathetic AgingAmerican Jan 2016 #79
Yep, this is what it's all coming down to - self pity whatchamacallit Jan 2016 #82
So, money and stress Lordquinton Jan 2016 #84
Hee hee. Yeah, right. n/t bvf Jan 2016 #87
Good Job Bernie Supporters The Republicans hate Progressive Media outlets Sheepshank Jan 2016 #88
Sounds more to me like Wolfson's bvf Jan 2016 #90

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
1. Bernie caused him health problems made him
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 07:59 AM
Jan 2016

not like politics, made him stop working, his supporters and him made it all happen. Wonder how much he is getting paid to quit.

William769

(55,146 posts)
2. Does not say Bernie.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 08:01 AM
Jan 2016

And yes stress is a major factor in health.

And the hits keep on coming!

Stay classy.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
91. It's Bernie Evil Eye and his army of brainwashed zombies. I'll quit my job, too, and start prepping
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:43 PM
Jan 2016




kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
3. So...
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 08:05 AM
Jan 2016

The actual fascism of Trump didn't scare the guy but Bernie's supporters are too mean for you to continue? Dear gods, whatever will we do without this progressive defender standing atop the wall.

riversedge

(70,205 posts)
4. Sanders supporters "label Hillary a “fascist” or the “spawn of Satan” and worse,"
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 08:12 AM
Jan 2016

Shameful


http://www.wweek.com/2016/01/20/carl-wolfson-says-hes-ending-his-xray-fm-radio-show-because-bernie-sanders-supporters-have-gotten-too-nasty/


Here's the full text of today's farewell note from Wolfson.

OK. I’m done. The vitriol of so many Bernie supporters and the threat they pose to Democratic unity is a bridge too far. Politics itself has gotten so nasty, so extreme and so personal that I have even been drawn into uncivil discourse in the past few days. If progressives that I have spoken for during the past nine years on radio (and during 40 years of activism) have lowered themselves to label Hillary a “fascist” or the “spawn of Satan” and worse, I have too little faith in politics to continue. This is not a rash decision. I have been considering it for months. I am proud of what we have accomplished on the air TOGETHER since 2007 (and 2,280 shows to be exact!) I am proud that CITM was civil, informative and fun. At a future date, after a healthy space of time, I will reflect on the whole experience: the thousands of incredible guests, callers, causes and moments that filed our time together. I am especially grateful to those who helped me relaunch CITM after Clear Channel switched KPOJ’s format in 2008, and who have kept us going on XRAY, realizing that, in a time of media consolidation, local voices are an essential fortification of democracy. I will probably stay on for a couple more weeks (no longer) so XRAY can get the slot filled. Have no idea what I will do, but I’m sure I want a job as far away from politics as possible. It’s been the core passion of my life ever since 1963, when I was seven and watched the first Kennedy-Nixon debate! The only thing Nixon and I had in common was we weren’t wearing makeup. But politics sucks. And that people like Thom Hartmann and other progressives have stooped to the levels and tactics of Lars and Fox, cuts me to the core. During the SOTU, President Obama called (again) for a political system worthy of a great people. On that score, we are failing. All of us are failing. Ninety-hour work weeks and the stress of producing two-hours of live radio on weekdays with a bare-bones staff has taken a terrible toll on my health. And after the Clear Channel boot, I’ve had to sink too much of my savings into the effort. I appreciate so much the sponsors and individual donors that kept us alive; at the same time, I wish more had given. In the end, though, my joy and gratitude far outweigh the regrets. Politics and activism will go on, but without me. Right now — I’m relieved! At some point, we should all have a big party. I have 200 CITM T-shirts in the garage to give away!

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
5. Right...
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 08:17 AM
Jan 2016

This guy is full of it.

Bashing all of a candidates supporters over a few trolls is such absurd, over the top garbage.

I am glad he is quitting.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
14. This saddens me a lot. I've been facebook friends with him, and have met him on many occasions...
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 09:18 AM
Jan 2016

He's a good man, and I know that for some time, he's been hurting for cash since Clear Channel shut down KPOJ like they did KLSD in San Diego here. Perhaps if enough of us supporting Bernie would also throw some money his way, perhaps he'll change his feelings.

I think he just fundamentally feels that fate is aligned against Bernie winning and doesn't want Dems to lose. I believe the opposite. I worry about us losing with some circumstances and opposition candidates from the Republicans if Hillary gets nominated.

I think there has been vitriol on both sides. Some of it may be understandable in some instances, but I'll think a bit before I say things too extreme from this point forward, and just try to make the case I think that Bernie is the better candidate without trying to put Hillary or her supporters down.

However, I think it is important not to allow the other side to get vitriolic too. I'll call people out if they do, but I'll try to encourage some more rational discussion if possible.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
48. It's a classic GBCW statement and would be greeted with mass derision and ridicule were it to be an
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:59 AM
Jan 2016

OP here.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
83. Burned his bridges completely
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 02:14 PM
Jan 2016

This kind of letter is really ill advised no matter if you never go back to that industry. Its out there forever and I'd be leery of hiring this guy for any position going forward.

He's probably always going to blame his demise on Bernie Sanders though - he'll be an old man still shaking his fist and cursing him from his death bed.



Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
24. Politics are by nature, a passionate sport.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 09:48 AM
Jan 2016

Both Hillary and Bernie have supporters who get nasty and ugly, all candidates do. This is a race that has brought division because we have two totally different approaches to solve our problems. Bernie and his supporters, of which I am one, are tired of the political corruption. Hillary comes from the corporate Democratic wing of our Party. She is experienced in campaigns and has been known to have her surrogates say some pretty ugly things.

This guy wants out of political talk radio because it's too hot in the kitchen. He was not cut out to do the job any longer. It's not Bernie's or his supporter's fault, it just is what it is.

hueymahl

(2,495 posts)
47. Translation - My ratings suck, So I am going to blame third parties
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:55 AM
Jan 2016

Just another failed radio personality.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
8. He blames Thom Hartmann and 90 hour work weeks too:
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 08:29 AM
Jan 2016
But politics sucks. And that people like Thom Hartmann and other progressives have stooped to the levels and tactics of Lars and Fox, cuts me to the core. During the SOTU, President Obama called (again) for a political system worthy of a great people. On that score, we are failing. All of us are failing. Ninety-hour work weeks and the stress of producing two-hours of live radio on weekdays with a bare-bones staff has taken a terrible toll on my health.


I think he's just looking for scapegoats because he can't hack it. It's a tough gig and it's obviously too much for him.

beerandjesus

(1,301 posts)
21. Hahahaha!!
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 09:40 AM
Jan 2016

Bernie bros made me spill my Cheerios on the floor, and they were the really tasty Honey Nut kind!




#berniebrosmademe

madokie

(51,076 posts)
9. I have a question for you
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 08:39 AM
Jan 2016

How can you in good faith support Hillary. What has she done for you? I doubt you're in the 1 percent category in the fact you are a regular here so what is it that makes a person like most of us here support her

Inquiring mind wants to know is all.

William769

(55,146 posts)
10. Her tireless work on woman's issues
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 08:48 AM
Jan 2016

Her work with the Children's defense fund. She was pushing healthcare for all when pushing healthcare for all wasn't cool. Her stance on LGBT issues has always been great (with the exception it took her awhile to evolve on Gay marriage as it did for so many others but she came out on the right side).

Fighting for woman's rights around the world.

That's just to mane a few.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
19. The guy further talks about the stress of preparing for a two hour live show... little staff support
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 09:29 AM
Jan 2016

in addition to his being unhappy with Bernie supporters.

It wasn't just the Bernie people. The whole thing was too much stress.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
33. Exhibit my ass
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:03 AM
Jan 2016

If you were going to be a political talk show host you should be prepared for the obvious heat that comes with such a job. If he has health issues that's one thing and I respect that. But don't go blaming the very nature of being a political talk show host as to why you no longer want to be one.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
49. Between the "fucking coward"
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 11:21 AM
Jan 2016

spittle and the dismissive taunts, I think we're seeing a pretty good representation of the behavior.

Your ass, or otherwise...

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
65. I don't call radio shows and I don't say nasty things about Clinton
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 11:57 AM
Jan 2016

So I'm not even remotely close to an example of what this guy is complaining about. But my point is is that the game of political talk radio is nasty. It always has been and always will be.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
66. At least he was willing to put his money and effort behind what he was passionate about
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 12:05 PM
Jan 2016

What have you done productive but your 10,000 plus posts? It's easy to tear down others with the flick of the pen from an anonymous keyboard. It's quite something else to build something tangible from nothing, using your own money and resources. Just because one shouts louder than someone else, doesn't mean he has something any more important to say.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
69. I'm sorry but no matter what you say, blaming nasty callers....
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 12:26 PM
Jan 2016

... for the reason that you were going to step down from a talk radio show that is based around politics is is like blaming cooking as a reason for not wanting to be a chef anymore. That's what political talk radio is. I don't buy his bullshit.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
86. I would totally post a picture of my naked ass here and now if I could get away with it...
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 02:28 PM
Jan 2016

...just for the laughs

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
25. Thom Hartmann handles it just fine. Does 3 hours on the radio every day, along
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 09:52 AM
Jan 2016

with a TV show as well, and he's CONSTANTLY writing books! He's someone that clearly identifies as a Bernie supporter, but is always extremely quick to shut down any caller that tries to use any kind of vitriol directed at Hillary. He always emphasizes the point that both candidates are light years better than any of the Repukes.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
34. I haven't listened to Hartmann in a long while, but this sounds like what I remember of him
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:08 AM
Jan 2016

I was wondering what he could have done to upset this guy so much.

I don't have any idea who Carl Wolfson is, but after reading his rationale for quitting it seems to me that he's really burned out after struggling so much (financially and physically) since Clear Channel dicked him over. The pressures from this election could have been the last straw that finally broke the proverbial camel's back. I know I burned out on political campaigns during the '04 election and its depressing aftermath.

It's a shame that fatheads like Limbaugh get to spew their poison for decades all around the country (and even to military personnel abroad) while guys like this have to struggle.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,326 posts)
37. Yep. That's why I know the article in the op is one big pant load.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:22 AM
Jan 2016

Hartmann goes out of his way to be nice to Hillary. He's nice and respectful to everyone to a fault sometimes, IMO.

I caught a segment yesterday where Hartmann was talking about assholes calling to yell at the screener (Hartmann's wife). He said not to bother because the software will block your calls if you can't play nice.

That's how an adult handles it. Not crying like a baby and blaming his failing show and money troubles on one side's supporters.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
38. Norman Goldman as well. 3 hours/day and supports Hillary Clinton
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:24 AM
Jan 2016

Goldman also does daily podcasts besides his 3 hour radio show.

He's never said Bernie Sanders supporters are a problem.

This Portland radio guy sounds burned out and is lashing out.

At root though it sounds like he just ran out of $$ . Being poor is stressful!

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
27. Even if all Bernie supporters were complete assholes...
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 09:55 AM
Jan 2016

Even if all Bernie supporters were complete assholes that wanted health care as a right, peace not war, and an economy that worked for everyone, I'd still support Sanders and prefer to spend my time with the assholes over a very sweet person that doesn't want their taxes to go up.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
71. Yep. "The problem is is supporters" is a made-up thing...
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 12:28 PM
Jan 2016

...made up by people spendin too much time on an Internet forum.

Support and vote for the best available candidate at the time, folks. I will.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
41. Nothing wrong with Bernie Sanders.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:28 AM
Jan 2016

He's not the problem, and I'll gladly support him if he is the nominee. The problem lies with some of his "supporters." I suspect that some of them are not really supporters of him, but people who feel he is an easier target for the Republicans.

Others are just over the top in their attacks on the other Democratic candidate. How will they switch horses if Hillary is the nominee, which still seems very likely? I don't understand that.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
45. Well MM here, let me help
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:41 AM
Jan 2016
How will they switch horses if Hillary is the nominee, which still seems very likely? I don't understand that.

They won't. They won't vote for Hillary if she's the nominee. They will pencil Bernie in or vote Jill Stein. Hillary though? Not on your life.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
60. I don't know - I am a Bernie supporter but I've made it clear i will support HRC if she is the
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 11:43 AM
Jan 2016

nominee. I'm not excited about the prospect, but I will do it. As I've said elsewhere, you can kind of count on the Republicans to put up a candidate to vote against.

Bryant

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
61. Many won't
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 11:48 AM
Jan 2016

And I do mean MANY. A large margin. They are completely disenfranchised with the system and the establishment.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
62. You mean the majority?
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 11:51 AM
Jan 2016

Every time a poll is taken, even in this forum, most people suggest they will vote for the nominee even if its not their candidate.

Bryant

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
63. This forum is tiny in all honesty
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 11:54 AM
Jan 2016

TINY. It is in a bubble. I'll PM you in a sec because I don't want a freak out to ensue

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
80. So you don't figure
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 01:28 PM
Jan 2016

that the threat to tombstone people who advocate for someone other than the party's candidate is a thumb on the scale of what gets posted here?

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
57. LOL! I don't drink caffeine, or milk or fake flavors
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 11:35 AM
Jan 2016

But they smell good.

I just may be a one step away from hippie, though.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
46. In part he's a victim of Hillary's husband who helped make Clear Channel possible
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:46 AM
Jan 2016

There used to be limits in the number of radio and TV stations any one company could own. But Bill pushed for a Media Reform that removed those limits. That's what made it possible for companies like Clear Channel ()I Heart Radio) to completely take over media markets.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
53. The fact that he may not see that
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 11:31 AM
Jan 2016

May be telling in why he failed as a liberal talk show host.

Makes you ponder...

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
59. Sounds like our government and other governments
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 11:38 AM
Jan 2016

One quote that always gets me is from Jane Goodall




This is just a prime example of not thinking or caring about cause and effect.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
75. ???
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 12:50 PM
Jan 2016

I'm sure you're trying to be clever here, but the more you do this sort of thing (whatever this is) the more you demonstrate the point.

What else ya got?

Your Jane Goodall reference was ironic in the extreme. Sorry if you were embarrassed.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
76. What would we do without our daily "Sander's supporters are so mean" post?
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 12:56 PM
Jan 2016

Thanks for ensuring the torch stays lit and the victim card is played.

See you tomorrow- same time, different thread?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
88. Good Job Bernie Supporters The Republicans hate Progressive Media outlets
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:58 PM
Jan 2016

It's a grand plan to help them out in this manner. There are already so few Lefty outlets, the typical Bernie swarming kills an open voice, just shuts them all down, drown out their ideas and talking points. Way to go!!!!



The Bernie and his supporters way, is not just to drown out the voice, but to belittle, humiliate, intimidate, threaten and call any non Sanders supporter every name under the sun. It's despicable and is confirmed by 90% of the responses on this thread.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
90. Sounds more to me like Wolfson's
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:55 PM
Jan 2016

just not up to the job and needs a scapegoat.

Take heart: I'm sure someone will be along to fill those tiny little shoes.

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