2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders and crossover voters
This is what myself and many other Bernie supporters have been saying. This is the revolution and this is what Hillary DOES NOT have and she never will.
If independents choose the Democratic primary, the moderates in the Republican field lose votes.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/bernie-sanders-new-hampshire-2016-republicans-trump-218042
According to crosstabs of that poll provided to POLITICO, Kasich who tied Ted Cruz for second place overall, well behind Trump ran stronger among independents and new registrants participating in the GOP primary (18 percent) than among registered Republicans (11 percent). The difference for Trump between Republicans (33 percent) and independents (32 percent) was negligible.
Among Democrats, Sanders leads Clinton among registered Democrats, 50 percent to 42 percent but has a wider advantage, 58 percent to 34 percent, among independents.
Its a pattern seen in other surveys. Kasich is the only candidate other than Sanders with net-positive favorability ratings in the new WBUR/MassINC survey of independents. Sanders favorability is sky-high: Fifty-nine percent favorable versus 32 percent unfavorable. Kasichs: Forty percent favorable versus 34 percent unfavorable.
The other candidates fare far worse among independents. Clinton (33 percent favorable/59 percent unfavorable), Marco Rubio (29 percent/54 percent), Chris Christie (31 percent/52 percent) and Trump (28 percent/65 percent) are all well underwater.
MassINC Polling Group president Steve Koczela stressed that these independents are not a monolithic bloc but rather a fragmented group that includes voters who lean toward both parties and a middle group that vacillates between the two in the primary.
Koczela said he pulled a random sample of registered independents who voted in both 2000 and 2008 the last two cycles in which both parties held contested primary battles and found that roughly a third of those voters pulled ballots in different primaries in those two elections.
More at link..... http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/bernie-sanders-new-hampshire-2016-republicans-trump-218042
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)You just don't know who will show up to vote.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)The r and d registered base are fairly predictable, the i's are all over the map.
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)There is only one presidential contest in the GE. Pollsters can ask if the person will vote in that race and who they will pick. In this race, a large group of people get to pick which race to vote in. It's much more open to the whims of humans.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)has been attempting to neuter this data by claiming it is a Rovian plot to get the weakest candidate nominated on our side, despite the fact that the data points to Sanders having a stronger pull from critical independent voters.