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Dream Small so as to avoid Disappointment rather than Fight for Change -- Hillary 2016 (Original Post) Rilgin Jan 2016 OP
There is NO dreaming involved. It's called accepting the current corrupt situation. n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #1
Accepting Corruption is similar to advancing the same Corruption. (NT) Rilgin Jan 2016 #4
Hillary Clinton: No We Can't. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2016 #5
Hillary is trying to keep the GOP out of the white house: Sanders people don't lewebley3 Jan 2016 #8
Hillary is all about putting a conservative in the White House, herself. Broward Jan 2016 #14
If you are not fighting the system... SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #13
she will never give up a thin dime and a future for her roguevalley Jan 2016 #19
The good old "Groundhog Day" Campaign TheFarS1de Jan 2016 #2
Architect Daniel Burnham: "Make no litle plans..." closeupready Jan 2016 #3
Nope. earthside Jan 2016 #6
LOL. Perfect. libdem4life Jan 2016 #11
That's why it's all about Her. Her dreams. Her ambition. Her title. libdem4life Jan 2016 #7
Wrong: it is only about the American people: it has never been about Hillary lewebley3 Jan 2016 #9
Yeah, OK. Shakes head. libdem4life Jan 2016 #10
Women can't have ambition. earthside Jan 2016 #17
Well Hope & Change as a neoliberal marketing plan failed. TM99 Jan 2016 #12
Has everyone noticed this yet? Hillaryites say none of Bernies promises can happen. Well he only litlbilly Jan 2016 #15
Who is fighting? All I hear is that some DUers want Sanders to fight. randome Jan 2016 #16
Your OP is missing something ... JoePhilly Jan 2016 #18
They're being disingenuous--they don't want Universal Healthcare, College for All, etc. Romulox Jan 2016 #20
 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
8. Hillary is trying to keep the GOP out of the white house: Sanders people don't
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:23 PM
Jan 2016

care as long as they get what they want and ideologue.

They are self center the Nader voters were that put Bush in
the white house.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
19. she will never give up a thin dime and a future for her
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:20 PM
Jan 2016

grandkids that includes harvard and private planes but she's fire breathing that you do. Fuck that.

TheFarS1de

(1,017 posts)
2. The good old "Groundhog Day" Campaign
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:15 PM
Jan 2016

The exact same shit as yesterday , for a more mundane tomorrow .

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
3. Architect Daniel Burnham: "Make no litle plans..."
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:17 PM
Jan 2016
Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood and probably themselves will not be realized. Make big plans; aim high in hope and work, remembering that a noble, logical diagram once recorded will never die, but long after we are gone be a living thing, asserting itself with ever-growing insistency. Remember that our sons and our grandsons are going to do things that would stagger us. Let your watchword be order and your beacon beauty.


https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Daniel_Burnham

It's interesting that Hillary is aiming for the stars in an attempt to become the US' first female president while telling her constituents to aim low.
 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
7. That's why it's all about Her. Her dreams. Her ambition. Her title.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:22 PM
Jan 2016

On the contrary, Bernie is about us getting up off our duffs and doing the work together. I'd like to see some more fleshing out of what that would look like after voting, but I trust it's coming.

I have no questions about the after-election effects of the other candidate.

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
9. Wrong: it is only about the American people: it has never been about Hillary
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:26 PM
Jan 2016


Using the word ambition against a woman is sexist: there
is nothing wrong with ambition.


Hillary will be just fine win or lose: it Sanders that will give us
Trump, and Hillary cares about her country.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
17. Women can't have ambition.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 05:28 PM
Jan 2016

Or if you notice it, you can't talk about it.

This is exactly the kind of thinking that will defeat Hillary Clinton ... either now or in the fall.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
12. Well Hope & Change as a neoliberal marketing plan failed.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:34 PM
Jan 2016

So this time they are going with No Hope & No Change.

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
15. Has everyone noticed this yet? Hillaryites say none of Bernies promises can happen. Well he only
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:38 PM
Jan 2016

made one promise. That is to add to the supreme court ones who will overturn citizens united. the rest of his policies will take everyone of us to get done. I accept that challenge.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. Who is fighting? All I hear is that some DUers want Sanders to fight.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:41 PM
Jan 2016

'Fighting' means getting out on the street. Protesting. Getting in their faces. I see very little of that happening.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]“If you're not committed to anything, you're just taking up space.”
Gregory Peck, Mirage (1965)
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Romulox

(25,960 posts)
20. They're being disingenuous--they don't want Universal Healthcare, College for All, etc.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:23 PM
Jan 2016

"It's not possible!" is just a smokescreen for the "sensible centrists" swelling around Hillary.

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