I will GLADLY vote to pay higher taxes if it helps ANYONE get better health coverage.

[cherokeeprogressive]

I would have thought it fit with the Democratic ideal.

Those of you posting about Bernie raising taxes, admitting it, and how BAD it is for him...? I can see right through you; my taxes go up, my insurance premium disappears, and you want to tell people that's a BAD thing.

[Ed Suspicious]

1. It's an awesome thing. It lowers my costs and helps a disjointed healthcare system

begin to control costs and make sense. I PRAY we buy the better life Bernie is selling.

[Pharaoh]

2. but you still would pay less

cause you don't pay health insurance!

Of course you know that.

But it does need to be explained to some people.....

[SheenaR]

3. Cosigned n/t

[Gregorian]

4. Yeah, it's kind of weird what happens when we all contribute and pull together.

[Ed Suspicious]

22. It's almost like insurance without the profit motive. Hmmm. Interesting.

[OrwellwasRight]

5. Count me in.

[spooky3]

6. We pay a lot in taxes. I want defense spending reduced and I want single payer and cost controls

in health care (a la Japan). Outrageous military and health care costs (high profitability for pharmaceutical companies, for example)--and NOT better coverage for the poor--is what makes us object to paying more in tax.

[Jefferson23]

7. +1 good message. n/t

[Avalux]

8. It works out to a net gain, and it's being misrepresented by Democrats.

I am really horrified that Bernie is being attacked on this - what has happened to my party? Has it shifted that far to the right?

[bvf]

31. The shift has been ongoing since Reagan, if not earlier.

And, if it wasn't clear enough by the time of Bill Clinton, well, he made it pretty obvious to the densest among us when he declared, in his folksy and so-engaging way, "The era of big government is over."

That was a slap in the face.

Expect Hillary to come out with, "Read my lips..." real soon.

Fuck the third way sideways.

K&R, cherokeeprogressive!

[CaliforniaPeggy]

9. I am with you on this, my dear cherokeeprogressive! Am I ever!

Some people just hear "taxes go up" and that's all they hear.

We know better.



K&R

[Fuddnik]

19. That's why Cuomo kept trying to push that meme.

[CharlotteVale]

10. So will I and I'm on a fixed income.

[daleanime]

28. +1

[taught_me_patience]

11. What if you had to pay 15% like Germany

Instead of the unicorn 8% proposal of Bernie?

[cherokeeprogressive]

13. What percentage of my income do you think I pay in premiums at the moment?

15%. I can afford that given the tax increase/premium decrease equation.

[taught_me_patience]

16. That's great, then as long as you are realistic about what it would really cost

and are willing to pay that.

[uponit7771]

12. We were told this would lower the cost of HCI not just shift who's being paid gobs of money

[appalachiablue]

14. As the first questioner for O'Malley at the forum tonight said, what can be done

about the cost of health insurance and care that is equal to a *MORTGAGE PAYMENT. And he was middle aged on the young side, not an older person. Amen, I rest my case.

This predatory for profit, private corporate US healthcare 'system' is obscene, archaic and alone in the advanced world, for decades. It's ruining the financial security and lives of Americans for some 20 years now. It must end and be replaced with single payer, absolutely.

[bigwillq]

15. Me too

With Democrats in office, I expect to pay higher taxes. Hopefully Dems put the tax money to good use.

[safeinOhio]

17. I would too.

5 years ago I watched a dear friend die because his crap insurance dumped him the day he went into the hospital. No treatment and he died.

[Bernin4U]

27. Yeah, I could see the use in channeling some big-time Dalia Lama from that.

Going postal would be counter-productive.

[Fuddnik]

18. Not ANYONE. EVERYONE!!!!!

[artislife]

20. And get rid of the whole in network out of network quagmire.

Posted this link in another thread but it is the other costs of this stupid health care system
http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2014/10/surprise_out_of_network_hospital_bills_why_it_s_so_hard_for_states_to_protect.html

[neverforget]

21. Why the fuck is health care dependent on employment?

[Ed Suspicious]

24. That is a question I would LOVE to hear a good answer to. That is insane. Decoupling health

insurance from our employers makes us more competitive in the beloved "global marketplace." That should be a seller in and of itself.

[neverforget]

26. I've gone without insurance and now have good insurance. If I have access to good

health care, why can't everyone? It's insane!

[spooky3]

34. It also makes it easier to start a business after quitting a corporate job.

[retrowire]

23. yes! if my tax dollars actually do more for us

then I'm all in!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

25. But, but, but,...Bill Clinton said, "The era of big government is over"!!!

[daleanime]

29. Hell yes....

[PatrickforO]

30. Me too, Cherokee. Because those of us who are lucky

enough to be able to afford healthcare ALREADY pay a massive tax for that 'care.'

This tax is called a 'premium,' and it goes to pay for coverage with an insurance company whose interest conflicts with yours; you want good healthcare and they don't want to pay out. So they nickel and dime us to death.

My 'premium' is a whopping 18.5% of my gross pay. No shit. And it is shitty, rationed healthcare with high copays and high deductibles.

Would I accept a 10% tax increase to have the kind of care Brits enjoy? or Dutch?

You bet I would!

Because, HEY CNN, NEWS FLASH - I'd actually be SAVING MONEY. That's right CNN...I'd be SAVING money. Did you hear that CNN? I'd be BETTER OFF with single payer.

But hey, we're cool - got the pundits flapping their jaws and the corporate propaganda organs all over the country trumpeting out the one sentence, "Yes, I'll raise taxes..." without talking about the savings. Yep.

And I'll be caucusing for Bernie. Me and my whole family. WE WANT SINGLE PAYER NOW.

And, CNN, you don't control the message any longer. All of us do.

[eridani]

32. Anyone who prefers paying a $900/month "premium" tp a $200/month "tax"

--should not be running around outside without adult supervision.

[glinda]

33. My Premium started at $350 and now is over $650! Hell ya!

All within just a bit over a year's time. Calculator for savings said I would save over $9000 a year on Bernie's Plan. Being unemployed, a senior and too young for Medicare yet, I approve this message.