What's going to happen when/if Sanders drops out?

[Triana]

I will be sad that Americans were not ready for another FDR Democrat which is VERY SORELY needed now, and throw my support to Hillary, instead.

Either way, I'm voting DEM.

[Laffy Kat]

1. ^^Yes!^^

We all need to think like Triana. The country is at stake.

[uponit7771]

2. They'll blame us

[votesparks]

3. We mobilize the YUUUGE Sanders Army

To reshape every County Democratic Central Committee in America.

[pinebox]

4. I know where many will go

And people won't like my answer. Millions won't ever support Hillary.
What many fail to realize is that a lot of people aren't supporting the Democratic party. They're supporting Bernie Sanders. I see it all the time.

[FrenchieCat]

7. I disagree.....

even if she only keeps Status quo (and with a Gerrymandered congress)
so would Sanders....

It's fucking better than what the Republicans will do; erase 8 years of Obama,
and give you a fist in the "you-know-what".....

[Art_from_Ark]

60. There's a big difference between Bernie and Hillary that you are overlooking

Bernie has the fire in his belly and the conviction needed to actually fight for what he (and by extension, we supporters) want. Hillary on the other hand doesn't really seem to want to fight for much. Hell, she can't even decide if she's a die-hard progressive or a meek centrist/moderate.

[Tortmaster]

80. The loud ones are always ...

... so sure of themselves.

[riversedge]

92. Where were you tonight-?-Hillary had the 'fire in her belly' as you say. If you think she was not

fighting for us tonight--you were sleeping. Or in your Sanders bubble.

[NanceGreggs]

30. "Millions won't ever support Hillary."

Name them.

Aside from the obvious (Republicans), who are the "millions" who won't support Hillary? Can you post a link to the polls/surveys where "millions" of Democrats have stated they won't ever support Hillary?

I wouldn't want to think you were just making shit up. Surely you have the evidence to support your statement.

[Champion Jack]

37. K&R

[artislife]

38. We can't, it will violate TOS. nt

[JonLeibowitz]

39. Bingo. They're out fishing for tombstones tonight!

[NanceGreggs]

45. Exactly how ...

... would providing proof of the statement that "millions won't support HRC" violate the TOS?

[artislife]

47. Well one person just posted a link to something similar and

out s/he went.

[NanceGreggs]

48. You're not answering the question.

Precisely how does providing factual back-up to a statement violate the TOS?

[artislife]

50. I am ...look at all the bugs. nt

[NanceGreggs]

53. So you have no explanantion ...

... for your remarks at all.

I kinda figured you wouldn't - but always nice to hear it from the horse's mouth.

[pinebox]

58. Nance stop baiting

Seriously, you know what she's in reference to, don't play coy. Thank you. We're better than this.

[NanceGreggs]

61. Honestly, I have no idea what that poster is on about.

She stated that providing evidence for a statement is a violation of the TOS.

I asked why - and how.

Simple question - apparently too complex to be answered.

[pinebox]

63. Ok

Look up the Loonix thread. It was probably deleted though but that is what she's in reference to. The hashtag was posted in his post.

[NanceGreggs]

69. Oh, I get it now.

The poster can't use - "as proof" that millions won't support HRC - an on-line "loyalty oath" swearing to NOT vote for the Democratic nominee if it's anyone other than BS.

And I'm sure the signatories to that "loyalty oath" have all been thoroughly vetted, and are all legit voters - and don't include people who would never vote for the (D) candidate no matter who it was.

Got it.

[pinebox]

70. Nance give me a sec and I'll PM you

[NanceGreggs]

74. Okay. n/t

[pinebox]

56. Name them?

Ok, sure, you know the hashtag I speak of and no I'm not posting it here either.

The Republicans, the greens, the Indy's...a large majority won't support Hillary. If you honestly think otherwise, look at polling in a GE and WHY Sanders has a lead. I see it repeated every day on twitter. Over and over again. By a ton of people.

You forget, Hillary's enthusiasm problem and also her numbers as far as people liking her. They are underwater by large margins.

[NanceGreggs]

59. Sanders has a lead?

In what universe?

[pinebox]

62. In this one

Keep in mind NOBODY has ever won the presidency with a negative rating. Ever. A net zero or a positive only.

[NanceGreggs]

64. Sanders doesn't have enough support ...

... to win the Dem nomination. So whether he could or couldn't beat a GOP contender is a moot point.

Funny how polls saying HRC is ahead of Sanders are not to be believed - but polls saying Bernie could beat the GOP are above reproach.

[pinebox]

66. So you asked me what poll

and I showed you. And now it's "Sanders doesn't have enough support". So moving the goalposts now? He does. He has the American people and we've come full circle. Now you know why those people will never vote for Hillary. They're sick and tired of candidates who don't represent them and who have literally hurt them badly. Millennials are the first generation in history to make less than their parents. They are sick of the same old system which has failed them. This is why Bernie is different. We've tried all the other ways, Bernie supporters want something new. He brings that for them.

I've never said polls saying Hillary is ahead aren't to be believed. In a GE though, Bernie does better against a Republican opponent than Hillary. It is what it is.

[NanceGreggs]

72. Moving goalposts?

Hardly.

The fact is that more Democrats support HRC than support BS.

The support of the majority of Democratic voters IS the goalpost - and always has been. That's how one gets the nomination.

Is this news to you?

Bernie does better against Republicans according to what? Polls? I though polls were unreliable.

[-none]

110. Define "Democrat".

What does being a Democrat mean to you?

[Kentonio]

94. None of us have any idea whether he has enough support to win the nomination.

But we'll get a very good indicator in just a few more days.

[Lorien]

65. Here's a few thousand:

https://citizensagainstplutocracy.wordpress.com/

I won't ever vote for her. She'll allow big polluters to run amok and start a war with Iran. I want no hand in that. I won't vote for a Republican, or anyone who acts like and old school Republican but calls themselves a "Democrat". Deeds, not labels.

[vi5]

105. Define "support"

I'm a lifelong Democrat in my late 40's who has voted straight Dem ticket in every single election from president down to dog catcher, every year there is an election. For every single presidential candidate from Mondale up to Obama I have donated money, I phone banked, and when the conversation comes up or someone is on the fence I vigorously defend, support, and explain why our candidate is the best and why that person will move us forward and be good for the country.

I will likely still pull the lever for Hillary, but she will not get anything more than that for me and definitely none of the other things I typically do for our candidates. So yeah, you can probably put that in your "support" column based on the vote but compared to what I have done for the past 30 years of my life......far from it.

[LittleBlue]

5. I think a lot of us won't have anything to vote for

The party will have left me, that's for sure.

[politicaljunkie41910]

76. The party won't have left you just because they believe that we need an experienced candidate who

can be an attractive alternative to Trump for Independents. The changes that Bernie is running for are worth fighting for. It's just that I don't believe we can get there in one bite, particularly with the GOP controlling the House in 2017. The way that the GOP treated President Obama convinced me that the GOP was willing to destroy the American economy in order to take it back for themselves. The GOP House is controlled by the TEA Party and the Senate has no moderates. The GOP is not going to turn over the White House to Bernie Sanders in 2017 no matter how he defines Democratic Socialist. They will define it their way,the way Claire McCaskall did and Independents won't go near Bernie.

With the GOP controlling the majority of governor's office in most of the states, and local state offices not only do I think Bernie will not be able to get his agenda through Congress, the Dems could probably lose more seats for even nominating him as the Independents will probably go with Trump because they would be convinced that the Dems only want to raise their taxes and create more entitlement programs that they feel the country cannot afford.

[liberal_at_heart]

6. Does every other post have to be about who is voting Dem no matter what? We get it already.

[FrenchieCat]

8. It cannot be emphasized enough....

especially when there are so many who say,
if they can't get their Bernie, then they are taking their ball and going home!
Forget the hard times that others might experience under a GOP administration....
guess they don't really count!

This election is key to the Supreme court....
and for me that means a whole lot!

[Warren DeMontague]

15. I want to see what happens if some "can't get their" Hillary nomination.

I think you're going to see some shit-losing that makes the 2008 PUMA phenomenon look like peanuts, in comparison.


Yes, we should all support the nominee.

[onehandle]

19. Cool story, bro. nt

[Warren DeMontague]

20. Right.

There is going to be a series of meltdowns that make fukushima look tame by comparison.

You know it.

[ucrdem]

25. TBH

The person who would have trouble pivoting is Bernie. He's not used to bashing Republicans.

[Warren DeMontague]

28. He'll manage.

Although when he talks about the mega-rich who control our political system, who is it you imagine he means, if not Republicans?

Surely you wouldn't think we have any of that in OUR party, right?

Why, that would be as ludicrous as imagining that the head of the DNC would ally herself with a Republican Billionaire like Sheldon Adelson, to fight to put sick people in prison for using medical marijuana.


"Inconceivable", as they say!



Thank Heavens I know that the Democratic Party - OUR Democratic Party- is better than that, because we all stand for something.

[ucrdem]

31. He's talking about the Clintons. And their foundation. And their rich Wall Street friends.

That's basically his whole campaign, and before that it was Barack and how out of touch and possibly corrupt he is for backing the TPP, and before that it was half a dozen other gripes and before that it was Bill.

[senz]

81. Never heard Bernie's stump speech?

He talks about the issues.

You seem to have a people magazine take on life. Believe it or not, not everyone enjoys yakking about other people.

[cui bono]

42. "He's not used to bashing Republicans."

Say what??? You realize we're talking about Bernie Sanders, right?

.

[FrenchieCat]

32. They won't vote....

They have said it time and time again!

They have decided that once all of us are f*cked,
we'll join the revolution.....

These are folks with nothing to lose. They don't even care about the Supreme court....
they just want a revolution...

As though after the revolution is over,
it will be a utopia! They are in for a rude awakening...
cause there will still be disagreement and not everyone will get what they thought the were gonna get...

Ask the Bolsheviks!

[FrenchieCat]

34. I'm not in love with Hillary....

I just don't want to be wandering in the desert for 40 years...
waiting for the revolution.

I'll vote, whether I believe we would lose are not! to do anything else
is being a Republican, cause that will get the leg up!

I've read more Bernie Sanders declaring that they wouldn't vote for Hillary,
even if she's the nominee.....not just on this forum.

I think they are mirroring the 2008 PUMA phenomenon this time around!

[artislife]

40. No, honestly, it can be emphasized too much.

[senz]

82. +1000

Throw in a few bangs for me.

[AOR]

49. The hard times will continue for millions...

until capitalism is addressed as the foundational problem regardless of who is elected. That some imagine that millions of working class people are not already struggling and being destroyed under the rule of both major parties - that answer first and foremost to the capitalist ruling class - is quite amusing. People can vote for whoever the hell they want, but to take part in the illusion that millions are not suffering hard times and will not continue to suffer hard times under capitalism and all its insidious tentacles is pretty damn delusional at best.

[senz]

83. Unregulated capitalism.

We can live just fine with well-regulated capitalism after we break up the monopolies and big banks. Get some health back into the economy.

[AOR]

114. I don't agree senz...

but what I believe is irrelevant. The proof is in the pudding and the material realities on the ground speak for themselves in regards to capitalism - unregulated or otherwise - for the whole. The results have been an unmitigated disaster for millions. Doesn't mean to give up and stop fighting back. Just means not to put all the eggs in the electoral basket. Organization of a mass working class political movement across divides that can command and demand is a must regardless of who is elected. It won't happen overnight, but the potential of such a movement is there. The seeds are there. The immigrants rights movement, Black Lives Matter, Fight For 15, the unions, Sanders movement activists ect. There is potential there but clarity of demands is needed.

[senz]

115. It is too complicated for a message board like this

although I might welcome a dialogue with non-democratic socialists because I've never had one and it might further define my own views. I believe my views are essentially "liberal." I believe in "live and let live" and find it relatively easy to coexist with viewpoints, life-styles, personal choices that do not match my own. That includes allowing people who want to own and run small or medium-sized businesses for their own profit to do so (and few things bore me as deeply as business, profit motives, materialism, etc.). I respect entrepreneurs who want to express their creativity by that means. But monopolies, anti-competitive and predatory business practices should be forbidden in private industry, as they once were with the Sherman Antitrust Act, Glass Steagall, etc..

I see government as essential to protect minorities, the old, young, handicapped, unfortunate, "different," from predatory or discriminatory behavior -- and to provide all the services we use collectively. I believe strongly in the "commons," as well; in fact it's hard to imagine a civilized, livable society without public parks, libraries, beaches, wilderness, schools, healthcare, prisons, etc., none of which should be privately owned or operated for profit.

I believe government should be a force for collective well-being but not oppressive to happiness, fulfillment, and individuality.

[AOR]

116. Yeah senz... we're definately not on the same page...

in regards to capitalism and it's effects in making impossible economic and social justice for ALL citizens. There are times to discuss this, but now is not the best time under the umbrella of a Democratic Party forum and neoliberal Clinton supporters posing as leftists co-opting leftist analysis to attack Sanders. Let's see how this Sanders movement pans out in the end. As a leftist... I've reached a point where I don't think the continuous leftist critique of Sanders while ignoring Clinton and Republicans is doing leftists (anti-capitalists) any good or gaining us any traction. I'm sure other leftists don't agree but that's how I see it right now.

[senz]

118. I think I'm on the same page as Bernie

but can't say for sure, as I've never had the pleasure of sitting down and talking with him.

My starting points are the 18th century enlightenment ideas of our nation's founders (democratic governance, checks and balances, prevention of oppression by majority and minority groups, inalienable rights, individual liberties) and the "trust the people" attitudes that underlie Aristotle and Milton in their freedom of speech writings. These are core for me.

I could never support massive government control over human activity. I'm okay with the slowness and messiness of democracy.

[AOR]

119. I'll keep it short...

but the end game of what Marx and Engels envisioned was never massive government control over human activity. The state of a working class government in control to replace the capitalist ruling class government in control was never meant to be the endgame. It was meant to be the transition period between the end of control by the capitalist state to the withering away of the state and class distinctions entirely. Obviously, the Soviet Union was never able to realize that transition as Marx and Engels envisioned. An objective discussion of the why of that would be a mass undertaking that could only be discussed sans the mountains of capitalist propaganda that has been drilled into the heads of the citizens of capitalist society for ages. I'll leave it at that.

As for massive government control over human activity... I'm not sure how what we are living under doesn't qualify as what you fear. An oligarchy of unimaginable amassed private capital and wealth expropriated from the working class, and controlled by a very small minority ruling class, is being protected by a massive state apparatus of government control beholden to that ruling class of capital.


The endgame of Marxists is not what you imagine senz. Does this below sound like massive government control over human activity senz ?

"The society that will organize production on the basis of a free and equal association of the producers will put the whole machinery of the state where it will then belong: into the museum of antiquities, by the side of the spinning wheel and the bronze axe."

-- Friedrich Engels

[merrily]

12. THANK YOU!

[DanTex]

9. This:

[Warren DeMontague]

16. I strongly suspect Stipe is supporting Bernie Sanders.

[DanTex]

17. I would agree.

[Warren DeMontague]

18. "a government for hire"

A tournament, a tournament, a tournament of lies.



Great fucking song.

[Fawke Em]

10. It's not easy being Green...

but I can do it.

[Live and Learn]

109. Believe it or not, your jury results.

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It's not easy being Green...
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ALERTER'S COMMENTS

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[JI7]

11. same thing that will happen when/if Hillary Drops out.

[senz]

84. Don't like her but would worry about her.

She's been living, breathing, grasping for it for years. I hope they'll keep an eye on her when/if it happens.

[Katashi_itto]

13. I would have nothing to vote for.

[OilemFirchen]

14. A lot less CAPS LOCK.

A keyboard in every pot.

[alcibiades_mystery]

23. ...

Ooooooo, BERN.

[lovemydog]

21. I hope people keep fighting for better health care,

reducing income inequality, criminal justice reform and especially getting better liberal representation in Congress.

[alcibiades_mystery]

22. Three Day Shit Show Followed by Hugs

[Nanjeanne]

24. I will vote for her

If that happens. Won't work for her though. Just pull a lever . . . Very slowly!

I will work my ass off to not have to do it.

But im afraid the newly registered and young voters will sit this one out.

[flamingdem]

85. The millenials sucked in the midterms too

Let's hope the Latinos don't suck this time when they have a chance to vote against Trump, but many don't bother to vote.

[toshiba783]

26. Im honestly terified of Trump...

The media lets him get away with egregious statements that reveal his total lack of knowledge (let alone all the bigotry) - there's absolutely no serious pushback (other than "lolz trump being trump&quot . Once he wins the nomination he's going to pivot to the center and his celebrity will be a real threat.

[Fumesucker]

96. To be fair to the awful media, a Gish Gallop is absurdly difficult to counter even for experts

The media knows this is what their audience would look like if they tried to take on the Donald regarding the truthfulness of his statements.

[senz]

112. Glad there's a name for it.

It's hard to imagine a more contemptuous, bordering on nihilistic, debating technique.

[Ed Suspicious]

27. I don't know. We'll see. Many heard taxes tonight. I heard bombs. We'll see.

[rusty quoin]

29. Me too. If it happens, at least we are talking more like FDR Democrats and less like Reagan.

[Maedhros]

33. The Democrats as a party have abandoned me and no longer represent my interests.

I have no loyalty to them.

[FrenchieCat]

36. So you choose the Republican party....

whether you claim them or not.

[cui bono]

43. No, we choose Bernie, who is the closest to a traditional Democrat of all the viable candidates.

Why would anyone choose someone who is so close to Republican policy over him? It is Hillary supporters who are choosing the Republican party because being a centrist she supporters a lot of what they support. And because she is less likely to win in the general election.

And if you really cared about the Supreme Court, which you mentioned above, you would support Bernie because he will appoint actual liberals to counterbalance the extreme right wingers on there now.

.

[Ed Suspicious]

51. I agree with this!

[draa]

54. I agree but be careful cui.

No need to give anyone a target.

[SamKnause]

55. n/t

[Lorien]

71. Exactly. And calling her a "Centrist"

is very, very generous of you.

[senz]

86. I agree with pretty much everything you say

most of the time, too.

[Depaysement]

95. Well crafted

Nice

[Maedhros]

73. I choose Progressive policies and an end to this bullshit war.

Any candidate who wants to step up to the plate and deliver will get my vote.

[Nyan]

77. Amen to that. nt

[ucrdem]

79. Barack Obama ended the Iraq war in Dec. 2011.

Read all about it:

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/story/2011-12-15/Iraq-war/51945028/1

[Art_from_Ark]

87. We've been sending troops to Iraq

Read all about it:

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/12/02/us-deploying-new-force-to-iraq-to-boost-fight-against-islamic-state.html

[Lorien]

68. Me either. If Debbie Wasserman Schultz is the face of the "New Democrats"

then they obviously don't want ANY voters who are left of center!

[tazkcmo]

35. Good for you! n/t

[Rosa Luxemburg]

41. He's not dropping out

[cui bono]

44. Why would anyone who is doing so well drop out?

What kind of defeatist attitude is that?

.

[hopemountain]

46. and the vultures are circle-ing

i refuse, you hear me? i refuse to go there. here's another $100 for bernie's campaign. not for me - for us.

[draa]

52. Let's just say I'm going to vote my conscience and leave it at that.

[John Poet]

57. When Hillary has to drop out, the floor will open up,

and Satan's shadow minions will come up, take hold of her and drag her off to hell!


Oh, wait, that was in a movie I saw...


All in good fun, folks, all in good fun!

[senz]

88. Oh my...

[Fumesucker]

97. Poetic

[YOHABLO]

67. Bernie will come out and support Clinton if she gets the nomination.

As usual we won't have much choice if we don't want a Trump, Cruz or Rubio Presidency.

[Fearless]

75. The winner doesn't traditionally drop out.

[senz]

78. What? Does ol' Hill have the fix in now?

CNN gave her the red carpet treatment and somebody got her all jazzed up, polished, rehearsed, and speedy as alka selzer (or is that gonzolez?) for her big red performance, and now we're talking about the only candidate who's not bought and sold dropping out?

Premature.

[Binkie The Clown]

89. OMG HRC Supporters are spending too much time in their own echo chamber & have lost touch w/ reality

Remember my fellow DU'ers. After Bernie wins, be kind to all those HRC supporters. They mean well, but they will be in such a state of shock. They will need our kindness and compassion. Offer them a hug, or a cup of hot chocolate and a cookie to help soothe them while they work through their emotional crisis.

[riversedge]

93. I will have lots of cookies and hugs for you when Sanders does drop out

[senz]

90. But if Bernie were to drop out at some point

then the United States would have either Hillary or some other Republican as president.

So I might start wondering what it would be like to live in one of those European socialist countries, perhaps in the south of France. Or Spain, if it's socialist. Or Italy. And I'd get up every morning and put on a soft, semi-full calf-length skirt with a peasant style blouse and sandals and walk down a cobble stone street to the cafe where I'd sit out on the terrace with my fresh baked slice of bread and coffee and read one of the English newspapers about the extended suffering of the American people and then I'd think about a worldwide revolution and maybe see about joining an ex-pat group who cares about helping them because there has to be a better way for a once-great people to live. Screw the oligarchs.

[JustAnotherGen]

91. He won't just "drop out"

That's not going to happen. He's not going to just up and quit. Not gonna happen.

Re FDR Democratic President.

I'm not ready for that.

It's 2016. I want to start in this century and move forward. This country is radically different than it was in 1932, 36, 40, 44 . . . It is different for me - and for a lot of people like me.

Old times should be forgotten.

[Fumesucker]

98. Forget the past, brilliant plan

Considering Hillary's past it's unsurprising that forgetting the past is one of your goals.

Hillary seems to have a very vivid recollection of the past..

[JustAnotherGen]

100. I'm not a Hillary Supporter

My first and only choice is O'Malley.

[mythology]

101. If that happens, in all sincerity

I hope his supporters find other local, state and national candidates that inspire them to remain part of the process and work to get them elected. We have far too many Republicans elected at all levels. The House is so gerrymandered because of Republican work in the 2010 election at the state level. To reverse that, we need to work just as hard, if not harder.

I hope they don't get discouraged or think that the system is pointless. I want them to fight for what they believe in.

[Gothmog]

102. I will support the Democratic Nominee no matter what

[NCTraveler]

103. He will endorse Clinton...

and go back to the Senate with exponentially increased clout. That's if he wants it.

[Vinca]

104. If Bernie drops out, many of us will reluctantly vote for Hillary.

The voters who don't bother coming out during midterm elections will stay home. If Hillary is lucky and Trump is the nominee on the right, she will probably get the votes of Republicans who decide she's far enough right to be better than a total lunatic.

[randome]

106. I wonder about the effect on DU. Some have burned too many bridges.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Aspire to inspire.[/center][/font][hr]

[Attorney in Texas]

107. What's going to happen when Sanders drops out? We'll all be getting the VP ready for Warren 2024!

[99Forever]

108. There will be a Republican President.

And the shit will continue to get worse until...


... we all know what happens then, and it isn't pretty.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

111. I'll be voting for the most progressive candidate on the ballot.

[Zorra]

113. I put my affairs in order, and within two years, move way far south of the border

probably for the rest of my days.

Call me if there's ever another revolution.

[VulgarPoet]

117. I prepare my affairs, write "Deez Nuts" for the top of the ticket

and then prepare for my lifestyle to become criminalized. I was brought up by criminals, and really? I'm ok with going back. Can't expatriate for another four years as is; but I'll be getting my affairs in order.