2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWaPo: Bernie Sanders is the Realist We Should Elect
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bernie-sanders-is-the-realist-we-should-elect/2016/01/26/6af4d268-c392-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6_story.htmlBut this conventional wisdom clashes with the reality that this country has suffered serial devastations from choices supported by the establishments responsible candidates. On fundamental issue after issue, it is the candidate of the heart who is in fact grounded in common sense. It wasnt Sanderss emotional appeal, but his clearsightedness that led the Nation magazine, which I edit, to make only its third presidential endorsement in a primary in its 150-year history.
brooklynite
(94,535 posts)...can I suggest people note when an opinion is that of the publication, and when it's the opinion of the author (in this case Katrina Vanden Heuvel)?
Much like those who cite union or organizational endorsements, please make note if the endorsement came from the ranking officials or from the membership itself.
But I agree, this headline was misleading. WaPo did not say this as a paper
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)It seems like the misleading headline was more of a feature than a bug.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)It's an opinion piece by an individual, Katrina van den Heuvel. But nice try at misleading people into thinking it is a newspaper endorsement.
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)except keep us on the path of corporate rule and control.
We need REAL change and Bernie is the only one who is going to even try for it. And he will be riding the wave of the people's demands when he does. So watch out!
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DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)farleftlib
(2,125 posts)WTG, Bernie.
George II
(67,782 posts)....of the Washington Post.
The author writes columns for a number of newspapers around that country, and this one is a blog post on the Washington Post's website. Her columns don't even appear in the WP print edition.
So, it should read "Katrina vanden Heuvel: Bernie Sanders is the Realist We Should Elect"
thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)While I think it's a great piece, the post headline is misleading. I'd go with
"WaPo columnist: Bernie Sanders is the Realist We Should Elect"
or
"WaPo OpEd: Bernie Sanders is the Realist We Should Elect"
(And really, I'd have been surprised if WaPo actually endorsed anyone for an Iowa caucus... it's not their turf.)
elleng
(130,895 posts)thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)elleng
(130,895 posts)as others have noted, but Katrina vanden Heuvel @ The Nation.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)I wish it was, but it's a singular author's point of view. OpEds cannot be taken to be the opinion of the entire publication, much as I may agree with it.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)Take heed Hillarians.
Here in Canada, before our last election last fall, almost every corporate owned newspaper across the country, which is, like everywhere, being monopolized by fewer and fewer billionaire owners...endorsed our corrupted, egotistical, global warming denier, secretive, disastrous Conservative PM for yet another term.
The Liberals won by a landslide.
Just saying.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)their own minds, what with the internet and social media. I believe that is why they used to mean more, because people did not have such easy access to varying issues and positions. I welcome this new media...even the MSM...as they begin to notice, if not a bit tardy, that there really is more than one Democratic candidate. In fact, it's suddenly Big News.
However, make no mistake, no Editorial Writer is allowed to stray too far from the basic tenets of a newspaper's basic orientation. Nor are they allowed to do so too soon. This is a mainstream idea and article at this point in time. Just a bit controversial, but not like announcing for Trump or Cruz. I see this as acknowledgement that there are more voices in this campaign now.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)Yes, I should also add that many of these Canadian papers revealed afterwards that the decision to endorse the Conservatives came from the very top (ie one billionaire) and "trumped" any of the opinions of the individual editors of their papers. Which is in itself a scary reality.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)were strongly Bernie supporters. No big surprise there. Even some who endorsed without polling are getting some flack from individual unions...notably a local UAW. Again, it's the Oligarchs vs the Reformists.
We know what's best for you vs. I can make up my own mind.
We will get back our Democracy For the People, I have no doubt. Maybe not Bernie, although I hope so, but he's will go down in political history as being the initiating candidate of Post Establishment Liberalism/Progressivism/Social Democracy/Democratic Socialism...whatever. But, it's a sea change in American Politics we haven't seen, maybe since FDR.
He wasn't perfect, neither is Bernie. But they were definitely chosen for the job...by the People.
madokie
(51,076 posts)do I even need to mention who I think the winner will be.
I didn't think so
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)any, shall we say, interventions. Right after the Chris Cuomo's attack on Bernie, I found the Syracuse University Poll that said Bernie won 80+to Hillary's 10+
And I have news for the MSM...to trash internet voting, twitter/facebook comments, confine it to the young...is at your peril. Actually, they are already in peril, because just like print reduced radio as the primary news source, so the internet has reduced print/MSM/even cable to free online networks that are both active and responsive.
It's another sea change and my opinion is that, probably even unintentional, it has made it possible for an unknown like Bernie to be ahead of the most common name in politics. In fact it's reported his formal entry was near unintentional...certainly not something he craved.
madokie
(51,076 posts)not saying that to you personally as I know where you're coming from and agree wholeheartedly. I'm saying it to the 'CONs and Hillaryites. Thats who that comment is directed at.
I'd say that since Bernie has announced his candidacy that close to a million people have turned out to hear him speak. It may not be a million but its dog damn sure in the upper six figures.
Bernie will make us proud as our President. If he can make me as proud as he does as just a candidate, I'm not so sure my heart can take how he'll make me feel once in the oval office. I have two stepsons and one Grand Daughter and its for them especially her that I feel as I do. I really do want to clean up our act before we turn things over to her generation. I'm an old hippy from the word go. Down deep I'm still the same person I was when I got home all those years ago. It took me a total of less that 10 days of in country Vietnam to realize that what we as a country was doing there was as wrong as wrong can be.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)because when he's the Nominee, he'll need them, there to hear him...many for the first time. No other candidate is able to draw those kinds of crowds much less the enthusiasm, and I don't see that changing. It's a phenomenon that has puzzled many...Bernie being one of them. But he's risen to the task and looking stellar and Presidential while doing it.
No more Hawks or Hawk-wannabes. No more PTSD and their family victims. No more Veteran with limbs severed or brains blown out. Just. No. We have better things for our best and brightest to do...and it isn't literally, to pound sand.
Bernie knows and he'll figure it out.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)just a lot about the title, which is often misleading, but oh well.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Unlike the one in the Hillary group that made it sound like Chomsky was going to vote for Hillary in the primary when in fact he said he would vote for her in the general but it would be a vote AGAINST the Republicans.
It would be interesting to go look at that OP now and see who commented and if they called that one out.
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Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)That when I went to say something, found it was in the Hillary group. If they had conviction it wouldn't be in a gated community.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)an endorsement by that newspaper.
the WaPo publishes all sorts of editorials on a daily basis. They are what they are.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Same thing with that OP from Kos about O'Malley.
Stay the course, and keep it clear in our communications on the board
for Sanders.