2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNot one person from the Clinton campaign calls for her supporters to be respectful...
So carry on Clinton supporters in your attempt to brand Bernie as racist and sexist.
Xipe Totec
(43,892 posts)I would post this on the Clinton forum, but I was banned after one post, so I can't.
Still, the spirit is there, and I would ask.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)And to make it more weird, I have that group in my trash can.
Xipe Totec
(43,892 posts)They turned a potential ally into a blood feud mortal enemy.
They don't know what it means to turn a Mexican into an enemy.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)My SO is Mexican. Most my family in this area is as well due to marriages and whatnot. And around half my neighborhood.
Xipe Totec
(43,892 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)synergie
(1,901 posts)so I would suggest that Bernie supporters take a good look in the mirror as well, since those of us cannot ask you what your campaign refuses to, and ask Bernie supporters to be respectful.
Also, it's not just Hillary supporters that are subject to this abuse, pretty much anyone who does not seem to support Bernie in every post has been attacked, blocked and abusively alerted on, and posts hidden not due to any violations but the piling on phenomenon.
Xipe Totec
(43,892 posts)synergie
(1,901 posts)still_one
(92,502 posts)it would be very difficult for any Democratic president to accomplish much.
It is ironic they talk about respect. I have seen a lot of threads from some so-called Sanders' supporters calling Hillary every name in the book, from a "war criminal", to the "c-word", and then others defending the use of such garbage.
and more than one time I have seen some of these so-called Sanders' supporters utilizing extreme right wing sources to attack Hillary.
Yeah, tunnel vision is a wonderful thing
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)think technically this makes her an accessory to the crime before the fact.
still_one
(92,502 posts)the nomination
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)still_one
(92,502 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Obama for some reason, something about an elite education and the HRC group is of course blaming bernie.
For me, Michelle Obama is in the goddess category. Just so you know.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)If Sanders wins, Wall Street won't have a champion in the White House, and then the terrorists win.
synergie
(1,901 posts)to be respectful? Is that why your post is anything but? And would you listen if they did ask you to stop posting such insults?
daleanime
(17,796 posts)synergie
(1,901 posts)there are not mobs of hillary supporters trolling, abusing and harassing journalists and organizations for supporting Bernie, not even when they attack Hillary. No one bringing up their kids, or sending them hate mail or using right wing talking points and concocting conspiracy theories.
Sanders supporters are doing these things and as we have been saying for some time now, this is hurting your candidate, to a degree that you don't seem to understand. They finally figured it out, but they seem to have no control over you guys, as this post illustrates.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)change topics like a pro. You have a lovely night now, you hear?
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)"there are not mobs of hillary supporters trolling, abusing and harassing journalists and organizations for supporting Bernie, not even when they attack Hillary"
Which journalists and organizations support Bernie and get a lot of media attention for it? I don't watch TV, so I would like to know which journalists are supporting Bernie other than The Nation Magazines.
Which journalists and organizations are attacking Hillary? Again, I don't know much about this. Please advise.
"No one bringing up their kids,"
Chelsea brought herself up by making comments about Bernie's plan to introduce single payer insurance. Also, people noted that the free tuition at state universities would not have been appreciated or needed by Chelsea since paying for her college education was no problem for the Clintons. Those are the only references to Chelsea that I know of, and they are justified especially since she introduced herself into the campaign by speaking up for Hilalry and criticizing Bernie's stance on health insurance.
"or sending them hate mail" or
I suspect that both candidates have received hate mail. There just are crazy people out there who do that sort of thing. Personally, I haven't sent any mail to either of them. But if you are a public figure, you will probably get hate mail these days. It's a shame, very sad, but part of being out there. Hillary has Secret Service body guards. Bernie does not as far as I know.
"using right wing talking points and concocting conspiracy theories."
Now there is where the Hillary fans excel. I have never seen anything like the right wing talking points and conspiracy theories that are baseless but raised at every opportunity against Bernie. Not so much against Hillary. The allegations that the DNC, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Cuomo and many others try to tilt everything from debate questions to interview answers in favor of Hillary and use conspiracy theories and every dirty trick in the book to do it is simply true. It's just too obvious to even question that that is being done by the Hillary fans.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)The kettle-pot factor here is not to be believed.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)REASON FOR ALERT
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so the poster pretty much insults all Hillary supporters, this is a violation of the TOS and it's pretty blatant. No matter how much you support Sanders, this cannot be allowed to stand if we're going to pretend that over the top, rude and inappropriate posts are damaging to what's left of the civility here.
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jfern
(5,204 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)elana i am
(814 posts)i'm a sanders supporter, but i don't have any desire to alter my behavior or my opinions just because a sanders spokesman proffered the suggestion. life sucks for a lot of people right now, and i don't have it in me to temper my disdain or my disgust with anyone or anything that perpetuates the misery. the only reason i don't always let my true feelings be known here is because this forum has rules.
besides, it's sanders' job as a politician to play nice, it's not my job. so fuck off thought police. that goes for both sides.
applegrove
(118,898 posts)are are probably GOP trolls. Same with some of the nasty Bernie supporters.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)applegrove
(118,898 posts)a war about feminism on the DU. Then they started a war on race. Both settled issues amongst democrats. So you don't think the stakes are so high this election that the GOP would not manipulate a democratic discussion forum? Really? That they would never cross that line? The Republicans... in an election?
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)They have one thing in common. An almost fanatical obsession with the concept of "loyalty". I don't know if you have ever been to Europe but it's like what you see in monarchies where they assign their royalty to the divine and value their own role as loyal subjects. They accuse all those who speak against their leaders as if they are not only guilty of treason but blasphemy.
Most are current die hard Obama fans that were likely Hillary fans in '08 and they will be DAMNED if she loses again.
applegrove
(118,898 posts)Democratic nomination is not some we'd kind of monarchs. I am not a monarchs. Nice try.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Prism
(5,815 posts)One demographic trait in this primary is, the younger you go, the more enthusiasm you have for Sanders. Even Millenial women are for Sanders 2-1.
And given young people are more likely to be familiar with and use social media, it kind of follows you're going to have Sanders swarms all over the place online.
Clinton's strength is with the 50+ crowd. They're not Twitter folk.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Too bad we're the smallest cohort in the country.
it kind of follows you're going to have Sanders swarms all over the place online
So this is the new normal.
Bleh.
Get off my lawn...
Prism
(5,815 posts)I do not read facebook memes, I do not twit, I do not post my every waking thought to the world. Hell, I'm on DU 11 years, and I have less posts than some posters have garnered in the past six months.
The only thing that attaches me to Millennials is the fact most of my friends are in their 20s (my boyfriend is 23, also I need to rethink my social circles) and I read Reddit daily.
But yeah, online, the vast, vast, vast majority of social media posts are coming from people who are probably ten years younger than us on average.
So when people complain about the Sanders online presence, it's kind of a duh thing. Of course it's that way.
redruddyred
(1,615 posts)has now expanded its meaning to refer to anyone who disagrees with you, esp vehemently?
JI7
(89,287 posts)Ron Paul supporters who attacked and spammed everything.
Ron Paul had a lot of internet support but compared to actual voters including young people not much.
this isn't sanders of course who actually does have much more actual support.
but the point is the internet can make some things seem more or less than it is .
Nyan
(1,192 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)The terrible lying attacks come from the top. Of course she'll never ask her supporters to tone down their low road campaign.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)Get your shit together people.
redruddyred
(1,615 posts)it's quite telling that their #1 "first world problem" is BERNIE SUPPORTERS ARE MEAN TO ME **SOB**
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)we do appreciate it.