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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:23 PM Jan 2016

Brand Spanking New Monmouth University Iowa Poll-HRC -47% SBS 42% MOM 6%





IOWA: CLINTON CLINGS TO CAUCUS LEAD
But Sanders makes gains among most voting blocs
West Long Branch, NJ – Hillary Clinton leads Bernie Sanders by 5 points in the latest Monmouth
University Poll of likely Iowa Democratic caucusgoers, which is down from 22 points just one month
ago. High turnout could make this race even tighter.
Hillary Clinton currently garners the support of 47% of likely Democratic caucusgoers compared
to 42% for Bernie Sanders. Clinton’s lead has shrunk from the 55% to 33% advantage she held in
December. Martin O’Malley clocks in at 6% of the vote, which is unchanged from a month ago. Another
6% are uncommitted or undecided.

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Brand Spanking New Monmouth University Iowa Poll-HRC -47% SBS 42% MOM 6% (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 OP
Wow, that's a 17 point gain for Bernie since their last poll. HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #1
And now we wait for Selzer... ram2008 Jan 2016 #2
Again the demographics favor Hillary Jarqui Jan 2016 #3
And again, the close turnout in male to female is actually pro-Bernie, not Clinton Godhumor Jan 2016 #4
What do you think of my analysis in Post 5? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #6
I believe I read that in predicted support, 27% of Bernie's support is in 3 counties Godhumor Jan 2016 #9
This statement from Dr. Murray is odd DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #12
The only poll that counts is the one on Monday. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #5
Might be a bigger media bombshell for Hillary Monday if Sanders takes this state. Jarqui Jan 2016 #8
Bombshell will be on Sunday... DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #13
Well now you have me interested DSB SheenaR Jan 2016 #19
:-) Alfresco Jan 2016 #7
Wonderful News for Sanders Nanjeanne Jan 2016 #10
Looks like her lead is just outside the 4.4 MoE MoonRiver Jan 2016 #11
That's not the way Margins of Error work HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #18
Beat me to it SheenaR Jan 2016 #20
Great thanks DSB workinclasszero Jan 2016 #14
Things aren't looking too good for Bernie. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #15
If Bernies Millennial Army workinclasszero Jan 2016 #16
Sanders can win Iowa, the caucus process will allow people the contemplate their Hillary choice... johnnyrocket Jan 2016 #17
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
1. Wow, that's a 17 point gain for Bernie since their last poll.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:26 PM
Jan 2016

Great results with only a few days left before the caucus.

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
2. And now we wait for Selzer...
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:35 PM
Jan 2016

It will be a turnout election. Depending on how you model the turnout you'll end up with different numbers, small Hillary lead or small Bernie lead. Selzer is usually best at predicting Iowa turnout, I expect her next poll will show a tie.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
3. Again the demographics favor Hillary
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:36 PM
Jan 2016

43% men, 47% women is good

but 29% under the age of 49 is swings `15% of the young vote to the older voters that favor Hillary.

Since they do not provide a breakdown I can't be sure. When I plugged those numbers into another recent Hillary-Bernie poll, it took a 51-44 Sanders +7 result and flipped it to 42-52 Clinton +10 in the worst case. Pretty dramatic shift.

So demographics are important and therefore, I do not have much faith in these numbers beyond saying the race is probably close.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
4. And again, the close turnout in male to female is actually pro-Bernie, not Clinton
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:39 PM
Jan 2016

The spread, for a likely voters screen, should be wider not narrower.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
9. I believe I read that in predicted support, 27% of Bernie's support is in 3 counties
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:47 PM
Jan 2016

Worth only 12% of the delegates.

I think your analysis is a strong bet, at least before the game gets played.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
12. This statement from Dr. Murray is odd
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:55 PM
Jan 2016
“Given the way Iowa’s Democratic caucuses work, Clinton could start the night with more
supporters, but Sanders could win the delegate count,” said Murray



and contradicts virtually everything I read elsewhere.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
5. The only poll that counts is the one on Monday.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:42 PM
Jan 2016

I will add that since it is a caucus and delegates are allocated proportionally Secretary Clinton benefits from the fact her support is much more dispersed along Iowa's ninety nine counties than Senator Sanders whose support is concentrated in three Iowa Counties with large college student populations. Senator Sanders can conceivably win the pop vote and get less delegates.


BTW, expect a bombshell on Sunday, you heard it here first.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
8. Might be a bigger media bombshell for Hillary Monday if Sanders takes this state.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:47 PM
Jan 2016

It could go either way at this point.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
19. Well now you have me interested DSB
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:37 PM
Jan 2016

haha.. Major endorsement coming? I don't know why Sunday though. I would think anything huge would come out Saturday to give voters time to get all the info. Sounds good for your side though.

Nanjeanne

(4,959 posts)
10. Wonderful News for Sanders
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:51 PM
Jan 2016

From article:

Hillary Clinton currently garners the support of 47% of likely Democratic caucusgoers compared
to 42% for Bernie Sanders. Clinton’s lead has shrunk from the 55% to 33% advantage she held in
December.
Martin O’Malley clocks in at 6% of the vote, which is unchanged from a month ago. Another
6% are uncommitted or undecided.

Clinton enjoys a lead over Sanders among female voters by 50% to 38%, but that is not as large
as her 61% to 27% advantage last month
. The two are basically tied among men – 46% for Sanders and
43% for Clinton. Last month, Clinton had a slight 47% to 42% edge among men.
Clinton leads Sanders by 54% to 34% among voters age 50 and older, which is slightly weaker
than her 63% to 26% lead in December. Sanders continues to hold the advantage among voters under 50
by a 59% to 31% margin, which is wider than his 48% to 38% lead last month.

“Support for Sanders has come from those who are new to the process, but the current poll
indicates he is also cutting into Clinton’s lead among die-hard Democratic partisans,” said Patrick
Murray, director of the independent Monmouth University Polling Institute in West Long Branch, NJ


Also noting the demographics of those polled - only 15% were in the big Sanders pool of 18-34 versus 40% in Clinton's camp of 50-64 and 31% over 65:

POLL DEMOGRAPHICS (weighted)
43% Male 57% Female
94% White, non-Hispanic
6% Other
15% 18-34
14% 35-49
40% 50-64
31% 65

Given the heavily weighted poll in the over 50 age range - I'm more and more optimistic that Sanders is going to do GREAT!

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
18. That's not the way Margins of Error work
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:33 PM
Jan 2016

The MoE applies to each candidate. In other words, Hillary is at 47 +/- 4.4 and Bernie is at 42 +/- 4.4. Since Bernie's maximum is higher than Hillary's minimum, this poll results in a statistical tie.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
20. Beat me to it
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:41 PM
Jan 2016

I've seen that a lot this week. MoE is not understood by a lot more people than I thought

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
15. Things aren't looking too good for Bernie.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:25 PM
Jan 2016

I'm confident that this thing will be over by Super Tuesday. Although it will still be mathematically possible for Bernie to win the nomination after Super Tuesday, it will be abundantly clear that he has no chance of doing so. Before the end of March, it will be mathematically impossible for Bernie to secure enough delegates to win the nomination.

Won't that be a glorious day!? The day that Bernie concedes (or withdraws, or suspends his campaign) and graciously endorses Hillary will finally put an end to all of the discord and rancor on this web site.

Even his most hardcore supporters will follow Bernie's lead and will support Hillary and help her to defeat the Republican nominee.

(Oh, silly me! What was I thinking?! )

johnnyrocket

(1,773 posts)
17. Sanders can win Iowa, the caucus process will allow people the contemplate their Hillary choice...
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:29 PM
Jan 2016

...in public, with others around. They can easily switch last minute. I say 10-15% of Hillary's support is name ID.

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