Article in the NY Times says Bernie's campaign is running misleading television ads in Iowa.

[Cali_Democrat]

I've already posted about how Bernie's campaign is sending out misleading mailers in Iowa. We've also heard the story about Bernie staffers posing as union members in Nevada.

Well the NY Times just ran a story about how his campaign leads Iowa voters to believe he was endorsed by the Des Moines Register, but the paper actually endorsed Hillary.

From the NY Times:

The Des Moines Register has not endorsed Senator Bernie Sanders, but a new ad from his campaign that started running on Thursday in Iowa may lead viewers to think that it did.

The ad trumpets the endorsements Mr. Sanders has received: “From postal workers to nurses, he’s been endorsed for real change,” a female narrator says.

“Endorsed by Friends of the Earth Action,” a caption declares, using the group’s logo. Same for The Nation magazine: “You can trust Sanders because he doesn’t owe his political career to the financial overloards,” the magazine is quoted as declaring.

But sandwiched between The Nation’s endorsement and one from the The Daily Nonpareil, the local newspaper in Council Bluffs, Iowa, is a quotation from the state’s largest newspaper. “The Des Moines Register calls him ‘a man of courage and principle,’” the narrator says.

That praise did not come in an endorsement of Mr. Sanders, however. It came in The Register’s editorial endorsing Mr. Sanders’s rival, Hillary Clinton.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/01/29/bernie-sanders-trumpets-iowa-papers-praise-unsaid-it-endorsed-hillary-clinton/

[Bjornsdotter]

1. The quote is accurate

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/endorsement/2016/01/23/des-moines-register-caucus-endorsement-hillary-clinton/79240238/

Sanders has tapped into the public’s anger and frustration with Washington, without demonizing government and resorting to the cheap demagoguery favored by Donald Trump and others. He has shown himself to be a man of courage and principle who has the ability to rally others to his cause.

[Cali_Democrat]

2. The NY Times never said the quote wasn't accurate

They said the ad was misleading. Why?

Because the entire ad trumpets endorsements that Bernie has received.

The quote is sandwiched between endorsements.

The ad trumpets the endorsements Mr. Sanders has received: “From postal workers to nurses, he’s been endorsed for real change,” a female narrator says.

<...>

But sandwiched between The Nation’s endorsement and one from the The Daily Nonpareil, the local newspaper in Council Bluffs, Iowa, is a quotation from the state’s largest newspaper. “The Des Moines Register calls him ‘a man of courage and principle,’” the narrator says.

That praise did not come in an endorsement of Mr. Sanders, however. It came in The Register’s editorial endorsing Mr. Sanders’s rival, Hillary Clinton.

[Bjornsdotter]

11. The quote is accurate

....and the campaign is allowed to use it.

Never is it said that the Des Moines Register endorsed him. Can't blame Sanders when people don't listen or comprehend.

To me it is a ranking. The Nation is the highest, followed by the Des Moines Register, and bringing up the rear the local paper.

[reformist2]

12. Sounds to me like the Des Moines register liked both of them a lot!

[Scootaloo]

32. Huh.

So, sort of like your complaining that sanders didn't spend twenty minutes explaining Clinton's weekly itinerary in Mason city, you're complaining that his ad accurately quotes the Des Moines Register, without turning it into a campaign ad for Clinton.

This is really the best stuff you and your fellow Clinton supporters have been able to gin up against Sanders?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

42. yes it is

it didn't say anything about an endorsement

[Dretownblues]

3. Come on

Does the ad say that the newspaper endorsed him? If it's just the quote then this is a non-story.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. This is becoming increasingly disturbing./nt

[Cali_Democrat]

7. There is certainly a pattern here.

Misleading people is never a good thing.

[frylock]

14. I proudly stand by disappointing unethical patterns.

[floriduck]

17. Go to Politifact and tell who is always truthful

whether it was intentionally misleading or not. Then, if your candidate is spotless, let's talk more.

[Romulox]

21. I bet it is!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. I am not remotely surprised a man or woman of your discernment would agree with me.

I am not remotely surprised a man or woman of your discernment would agree with me. But I would be remiss if I didn't thank you, nonetheless.




With warmest regards,

DemocratSinceBirth

[Romulox]

26. You misunderstand. I'm just happy that you're disturbed.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. My esteemed interlocutor,

You misunderstand. I'm just happy that you're disturbed.

My esteemed interlocutor, why would you be happy that a fellow human being is disturbed?

Would you agree that being happy at the misfortune of others betrays a lack of empathy?


With all due respect,


DemocratSinceBirth

[Romulox]

31. I have zero (0) empathy for the defenders of the Status Quo. None!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. My esteemed interlocutor,

My esteemed interlocutor, would you agree or disagree that empathy is the sine qua non of liberalism. It's actually the sine qua non of being a decent human being but I digress, and that we shouldn't be conservative when doling it out?

Thank you for answering my question(s) in advance.


With warmest regards,

DemocratSinceBirth

[Romulox]

38. No, I don't agree that empathy for those who have none is required. And I am as human as you.

I could not parse the rest of your word salad.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

40. My esteemed interlocutor, no need for your truculent tone.

My esteemed interlocutor, no need for your truculent tone. If I didn't make my point clearly let me take this opportunity to try again.

Would you or would you not agree that empathy is part and parcel of liberalism and we should not be conservative in doling it out?



With warmest regards,

DemocratSinceBirth

[Romulox]

41. Your hurt feelings are not a policy issue I care to discuss. This is a political message board. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

45. I must respectfully demur from your assessment

Your hurt feelings are not a policy issue I care to discuss. This is a political message board. nt

I must respectfully demur from your assessment. Empathy is part and parcel of liberalism and as liberals we should always be sensitive to the feelings of our fellow men and women, regardless of the fora.




With all due respect,

DemocratSinceBirth

[MeNMyVolt]

23. Yes, not a good look.

[ljm2002]

33. Yes, these trumped-up "issues" are indeed becoming increasingly disturbing. n/t

[SheenaR]

44. Come down for a minute

The quote is accurate. It's an non issue, nevermind disturbing

[Jarqui]

5. Again, I think the NYT is wrong

Sanders did not claim Des Moines Register endorsed him.

Sanders did what the NYT does every day. He took words stated "a man of courage and principle"
He basically put quotes around them assigning a name to who stated them.
“The Des Moines Register calls him ‘a man of courage and principle,’

And that is 100% true. Here's the link to prove it:
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/endorsement/2016/01/23/des-moines-register-caucus-endorsement-hillary-clinton/79240238/

It's a little like the ad yesterday when he talked about taking money from Wall Street. He didn't say Hillary's name or her campaign. Andrea Mitchell reacted as if he did.

Sanders never said the Des Moines Register endorsed him. Read that again until it sinks in.

All this article is just another media nonsense trivia piece brought to you by the Clinton Campaign, to take folks eyes off the ball - off what really matters.

Roughly 79 Americans died today because they didn't have healthcare coverage. That's the average number dying every day. Is who endorsed who in whatever ad is more important to the Clinton campaign than those 79 people? With all the nonsense of the last 24 hours, it's looking that way.

To me, that's pretty fucking stupid. Please grow up, Clinton campaign and stop playing these silly little bullshit games with people's lives at stake. Tell us with conviction how you're going to solve the priority problems and not get mixed up in this petty, little league idiocy.

[Skwmom]

15. And to take their eyes off of the Double LIES told by Camp Clinton

There was a corp media hack acting out with a young Clinton supporter her knocking on a door. He says I'm thinking about Bernie Sanders. She says what issues. He says free college. She then also says Hillary Clinton supports free college, refers to European countries. But Hillary has said how she will pay for it but Bernie hasn't. Clinton does not support free college and Bernie has said he will pay for it by a transaction tax on Wall Street. Her issues page is met to be misleading but a full read shows she does not support free college.

This is a double lie because it's a LIE about Clinton's position and it's a LIE about Bernie (saying that he hasn't said how it will be paid for.)

A Republican also ran an ad showing Hillary for free education.

[Jarqui]

19. I didn't know that. Thanks for passing it along

Doesn't surprise me in the least.

Her campaign is not for us. It's for her to get power. All this stuff she's been doing when she panicked under pressure reveals that.

Bernie's net worth is basically his house. He's not wealthy - doesn't care about his personal bank account. These causes for people are his life's work. He's been doing it since he was a high school student. It's what he is about. Not hobnobbing with the elite and chasing 6 figure checks for a speech. He wants to make people's lives better.

For some of you still into Hillary, try to stand back. Look deeply at the two people to discern their motives and what is in their heart. Actions over the years do speak louder than words.

[beam me up scottie]

6. They correctly quoted a newspaper??? The horror!

[Skwmom]

8. Politicians have been taking quotes from papers for DECADES!

[joshcryer]

9. Anyone have the video?

[winter is coming]

16. I'm still waiting for an image of that AARP flyer.

I've seen the LVM one, and it's bogus as all hell.

[Hissyspit]

28. Me, too.

[joshcryer]

37. Same.

[ljm2002]

39. Yep, no AARP flier has been shown anywhere...

...and no one on DU who is in Iowa has received one either. And you are right about the LVM (?) one too -- the picture of it shows the offending logo and text right where the address would be on a real envelope.

All we have heard about the AARP one is "Newsweek has a copy". I wonder who sent it to them...

[bvar22]

24. The video of a newspaper article?

Are you kidding,
or slipping?

[joshcryer]

36. Oops. Misread.

The article said they were "running" an ad with that quote.

So a screenshot?

[KingFlorez]

10. He wants to win

It's as simple as that and if that means being the slightest bit misleading, that's what he will do. He feels righteous enough to do it.

[Skwmom]

13. Camp Clinton worried that their lies to Iowa Voters are being discovered...

There was a corp media hack acting out with a young Clinton supporter her knocking on a door. He says I'm thinking about Bernie Sanders. She says what issues. He says free college. She then also says Hillary Clinton supports free college, refers to European countries. But Hillary has said how she will pay for it but Bernie hasn't. Clinton does not support free college and Bernie has said he will pay for it by a transaction tax on Wall Street. Her issues page is met to be misleading but a full read shows she does not support free college.

This is a double lie because it's a LIE about Clinton's position and it's a LIE about Bernie (saying that he hasn't said how it will be paid for.)

A Republican also ran an ad showing Hillary for free education.

That's not only a lie, that's a damn lie.

[NurseJackie]

18. Very misleading.

I guess you have to "make do" with what you have to work with ... but I wonder:

On a scale of one to ten, how ethical would this be? (With 1 being the least.)

[bvar22]

20. The Des Moines Register called Hillary "a man of courage and principle"?

That is one worth saving.

[Renew Deal]

22. Is there a link to the ad?

[Hissyspit]

27. There's nothing wrong with LCV mailer, and where is the AARP mailer?

I still have yet to see it.

[ljm2002]

30. So running an ad that is 100% truthful...

...is misleading?

I guess if you're a Clinton supporter that makes sense, since to the Clinton campaign, when they tell lies they are telling the truth. (cf Chelsea's words about Bernie's health plan)

[GoneFishin]

34. So then, you got nothing.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

43. The media are really 'clutching at straws'

scraping the barrel

[mhatrw]

46. OH MY GOD! The Sanders' campaign tried to paint Sanders in a good light!

OH MY GOD! Sanders' campaign tried to convince some union workers to vote for Sanders!

OH MY GOD! Sanders' has a few rude online supporters!

OH MY GOD! Sanders' campaign tried to make a better photo op for Sanders' campaign!

OH MY GOD! Sanders wants to give ponies to everyone without also promising magic hats to others!

OH MY GOD! Sanders' campaign tried to investigate an insecure voter contact list!

What "crime" will Sanders commit next? Will he eat with his fork in his left hand? Will one of his supporters put a piece of compost in the trash? Stay tuned!

[Dems2002]

47. This article is crazy!

This is crazy! There are hundreds and hundreds of ads every election cycle peddling in blatant lies. This ad is 100% truthful and correct. It states who has endorsed Bernie and inserts a completely accurate quote from a newspaper.

This is all politics 101. I should know because I have multiple mailers I have drafted through the years doing this very same thing. And the New York freaking times knows this!

This isn't news to the political classes. What is news is that they are being attacked and they don't like it. So out come the knives. And if this is all they've got so far? Damn but they are scraping the bottom of the barrel.