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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 06:37 PM Jan 2016

And there are STILL more shoes to drop in Hillary's email "mistake."

State moved for another extension on the final release of emails. Some 5,000 have not yet been better by other agencies for release. They will not be released until well after Iowa and NH and perhaps NV.

Then there are the 30,000 emails Hillary refused to share with State, which the FBI has recovered and is reviewing.

Then there is the FBI investigation itself.

She is a huge liability to the party. The story will continue and worsen all year.

Now is our chance to not be saddled with such a damaged and vulnerable candidate.

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And there are STILL more shoes to drop in Hillary's email "mistake." (Original Post) morningfog Jan 2016 OP
At the very least it's throwing up an uncertainty. Gregorian Jan 2016 #1
It depressed her polling numbers in late summer and was likely the basis of Biden HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #11
I didn't make the Biden connection until you mentioned it. Huh. Gregorian Jan 2016 #18
My 11th great grandfather's house stood in Southampton well into the last century HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #19
How lucky to know that. One of my cousins has written a book on our history. Gregorian Jan 2016 #21
That line of my family also has a book written about it, or I'd know nothing. HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #25
Her "firewall" for ST is already broken Health Wagon Jan 2016 #22
Which ST states do you think it's clear she'll lose? n/t HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #26
Seeing Bernie's organized on all 11 states. Health Wagon Jan 2016 #32
Thank you for your undoubtedly unbiased opinion. Nice Sanders avatar. Metric System Jan 2016 #2
You know it's true. morningfog Jan 2016 #3
I know you think it's true. Metric System Jan 2016 #4
the fbi will decide. roguevalley Jan 2016 #9
Not really KingFlorez Jan 2016 #5
And thanks for YOUR undoubtedly unbiased opinion. bvar22 Jan 2016 #12
Here's a repuke ad against her if she's the nominee cali Jan 2016 #6
Says it all. Health Wagon Jan 2016 #23
Yeah, it won't be.hard. cali Jan 2016 #24
"She leaked our most precious secrets, to OUR ENEMIES" jeff47 Jan 2016 #28
'More' shoes? LOL! When was the first one? randome Jan 2016 #7
Check today's news, randome... JudyM Jan 2016 #13
More blather about an issue that only Republican attack dogs care about. randome Jan 2016 #15
I don't know, this doesn't seem like that, IMO. JudyM Jan 2016 #16
The first one was her floundering around and then apologizing morningfog Jan 2016 #29
Aside from the classified stuff that has the FBI concerned Jarqui Jan 2016 #8
Do you really think that the FBI is politically neutral? Human101948 Jan 2016 #10
The LAST thing the FBI wants to do is help Bernie. bvar22 Jan 2016 #14
I think they would prefer a Republican... Human101948 Jan 2016 #27
If it's going to drop, better now than after she's nominated! nt MauriceLawrence96 Jan 2016 #17
They were supposed to be all release today jfern Jan 2016 #20
Why couldn't she use a government email server like Kerry does? senz Jan 2016 #30
At a minimum keep work and personal separate. morningfog Jan 2016 #31

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
11. It depressed her polling numbers in late summer and was likely the basis of Biden
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jan 2016

openly considering entering the race.

This is likely going to be another drag on Clinton just as she hopes her "firewall" will put an end to Sanders populist grassfire.

This could be the wind that throws Sanders sparks beyond that firebreak and leads to a long primary season.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
18. I didn't make the Biden connection until you mentioned it. Huh.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 07:57 PM
Jan 2016

By the way, just by looking at your name, my mother's side of the family has been here since 1624 or so. They have had a house in Rhode Island under the same name, the whole time. I couldn't believe it when my mom told me. Pretty slow turnover.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
19. My 11th great grandfather's house stood in Southampton well into the last century
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 08:08 PM
Jan 2016

It was then one of the oldest wooden structures in New York. My understanding is some parts of it were used to make a rocking chair that's in the Southhampton L.I. Historical Society.

Henry Gates "Finding Your Roots" is always saying there are traditions in families even when people don't know they are there. My 11th great-grandfather and American founder of the Sayre lineage was apparently fined (I suppose the 17th century equivalent of getting a thread locked) for 'immoderate language' at a village meeting.

If we could find his diary it might show he was 'Feel'n the Bern!' But I suspect it was more a Chuy Garcia raging at Rahm moment.





Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
21. How lucky to know that. One of my cousins has written a book on our history.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 08:20 PM
Jan 2016

The truth is, I barely knew my grandfather. I know almost nothing about my lineage.

Now I want to know what that immoderate language was. Probably something like "gosh". Haha.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
25. That line of my family also has a book written about it, or I'd know nothing.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 08:45 PM
Jan 2016

I don't know what ye olde Thomas said, but it didn't stop his career in Southampton politics as he was made a selectman after that.

 

Health Wagon

(99 posts)
32. Seeing Bernie's organized on all 11 states.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 09:53 PM
Jan 2016

Pretty much all of them.

Clinton is pouring 90% of her resources in Iowa, NH, NV and SC, all which she will lose. Then she will see her donations dry up.

She's already tapped out and running a debt. Did you see the last FEC statement? She carries $650k in debt already.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
6. Here's a repuke ad against her if she's the nominee
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 06:47 PM
Jan 2016

Hillary Clinton compromised top secret classified information.

Hillary Clinton should be indicted, not elected

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
28. "She leaked our most precious secrets, to OUR ENEMIES"
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 09:19 PM
Jan 2016

With a cut to ISIS stock footage when the announcer gets to "our enemies".

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
7. 'More' shoes? LOL! When was the first one?
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 06:47 PM
Jan 2016

It's been months and still nothing damaging has been uncovered. Clinton was not required to turn over personal emails, so you saying that she 'refused to share' them is disingenuous.

I understand the motivation behind "Keep hope alive" but hoping after all this time that a fellow Democrat can be undone by a right-wing attack? I don't understand that. (Actually, I do, but all I'm willing to say is that it deserves a re-think.)
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You should never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
15. More blather about an issue that only Republican attack dogs care about.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 07:11 PM
Jan 2016

Oh, and Sanders' more vehement supporters. It's been months and still some hope for a 'golden downfall'. At what point does someone stop fervently wishing for something? Will this continue until November? Geeze. Sometimes it's better to 'give up hope', especially when that hope is to find something to bludgeon a fellow Democrat with. Some dreams are not worth entertaining and it's a measure of maturity when someone recognizes that. IMO.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You should never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

JudyM

(29,192 posts)
16. I don't know, this doesn't seem like that, IMO.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 07:27 PM
Jan 2016

I took a while to decide whose camp I was in because I like them both.

She's going to be mired in investigations now that Obama is saying multiple email threads "exceed top secret"...

Whether they were properly marked or not, the content was highly sensitive.

I feel bad for her and all her passionate followers, honestly. But I don't see how she can carry a mantle of "best for national security" any more.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
29. The first one was her floundering around and then apologizing
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 09:22 PM
Jan 2016

and admitting her mistake.

There have been more since then.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
8. Aside from the classified stuff that has the FBI concerned
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 06:49 PM
Jan 2016

with the recovery of her personal emails (which probably means this investigation is going to continue until the General election is over) I've seen reports that the FBI was expanding their investigation to look at the Clinton Foundation.

In both the case of the classified emails and the potential case of the Clinton foundation, the difficult thing is that even if she is found innocent and not indicted, folks know it got looked at and will figure the Obama admin is cutting her some slack. So they'll howl allegations until the election and beyond. That's the problem with the scandal. It's going to cost her votes even if she's innocent. Her ceiling is already pretty low.

Hate to say it but this might be a blessing. If it had to happen, now is a lot better than the general election.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
10. Do you really think that the FBI is politically neutral?
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 07:01 PM
Jan 2016

Think back to a guy named J. Edgar Hoover and how he blackmailed everybody and his brother to stay in power.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
14. The LAST thing the FBI wants to do is help Bernie.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 07:09 PM
Jan 2016

He is their kryptonite.

Hillary and other ConservoDems are the oxygen that keeps their filthy organization alive.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
20. They were supposed to be all release today
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 08:10 PM
Jan 2016

But the State Department wants to delay after all the early states.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
30. Why couldn't she use a government email server like Kerry does?
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 09:31 PM
Jan 2016

What is wrong with her judgment?

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
31. At a minimum keep work and personal separate.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 09:33 PM
Jan 2016

I can only assume she did t I hide something, which FBI agents are now reading.

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