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ejbr

(5,856 posts)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:31 PM Feb 2016

BREAKING: Hillary Clinton Put Spies’ Lives at Risk

It's not the 'nothing-burger' Clinton allies have tried to portray -- lives are literally at stake
By John R. Schindler • 02/01/16 1:00pm

http://observer.com/2016/02/breaking-hillary-clinton-put-spies-lives-at-risk/


For months you’ve read about EmailGate in this column. I’ve elaborated how Hillary Clinton, the apparent Democratic frontrunner for President this year, put large amounts of classified information at grave risk through slipshod security practices by herself and her staff. Now that scandal has taken a significant turn for the more ominous.

Last Friday afternoon the State Department’s latest court-mandated release of Hillary Clinton’s emails from when she was Secretary of State caused a new political firestorm. While many more emails were released by Foggy Bottom, some with redactions due to classified materials they contained, twenty-two emails totaling thirty-seven pages of text were withheld entirely at the request of the Intelligence Community. Those twenty-two emails, deemed “unclassified” by Ms. Clinton and her staff, were judged to be Top Secret in reality.

Since Top Secret is the U.S. Government’s highest official classification level, this revelation exploded months of denials from the Clinton presidential campaign that Hillary had done no wrong. The Federal government defines Top Secret materials as “information, the unauthorized disclosure of which reasonably could be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security.” The disclosure of Top Secret information is a serious criminal matter that normal Americans face prosecution and substantial jail time for perpetrating.



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And what about those 30,000 emails that Ms. Clinton had deleted? “I’ll spend the rest of my career trying to figure out what classified information was in those,” stated an exasperated Pentagon counterintelligence official, “everybody is mad as hell right now.” “The worst part,” the counterspy added,” is that Moscow and Beijing have that information but the Intelligence Community maybe never will.”



(John Schindler is a security expert and former National Security Agency analyst and counterintelligence officer. A specialist in espionage and terrorism, he's also been a Navy officer and a War College professor. )

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BREAKING: Hillary Clinton Put Spies’ Lives at Risk (Original Post) ejbr Feb 2016 OP
What do you know about your source? Agschmid Feb 2016 #1
22,222 posts bigwillq Feb 2016 #2
Good question. ejbr Feb 2016 #3
Remember John Schindler, the conservative talking head, randys1 Feb 2016 #4
uga. THAT john schindle. I did not did the link. Thanks. riversedge Feb 2016 #23
That the source has written several columns making judgments on the illegality of HRC's actions ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #7
But....ITS BREAKING! Omg!! GusBob Feb 2016 #9
Really! You post a link to an article from the New York Observer VMA131Marine Feb 2016 #5
Then have this OP hidden ejbr Feb 2016 #11
I'd rather it stay up so you remain associated with posting this crap! VMA131Marine Feb 2016 #15
Why, thank you! ejbr Feb 2016 #22
Yes, he's highly credentialed as a right-wing hack. emulatorloo Feb 2016 #31
Fair enough ejbr Feb 2016 #39
DU has gone full Beghazi. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #6
I smell desperation. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #10
Big time. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #17
Oh brother ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #8
The Koch Industries fund the Tax Foundation being used to trash Bernie and Autumn Feb 2016 #21
Even Fox News knows this story is disingenuous salib Feb 2016 #12
She may have no legal jeopardy, ejbr Feb 2016 #27
Still disingenuous. salib Feb 2016 #30
ya can't tell the sanders supporters from the right wingers anymore lol nt msongs Feb 2016 #33
I am a Sanders supporter salib Feb 2016 #35
Given your support of a Corporatist war hawk, ejbr Feb 2016 #38
The judgement I am referring to ejbr Feb 2016 #36
This point is valid: Maedhros Feb 2016 #40
OP = rookie mistake wyldwolf Feb 2016 #13
This story should be shared... Mike Nelson Feb 2016 #14
The Observer has a RW hit piece on Hillary almost every day that is posted here on DU. It is riversedge Feb 2016 #19
The Koch Industries fund the Tax Foundation. Autumn Feb 2016 #24
ok. n/t zappaman Feb 2016 #16
LOL KingFlorez Feb 2016 #18
Pitiful. How desperate are you? alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #20
Very? Extremely? Exceedingly? Bunches? NurseJackie Feb 2016 #26
Awwww.... ejbr Feb 2016 #28
LOL. Right-winger John Schindler. DanTex Feb 2016 #25
Wonkette: Hillary Clinton Definitely Going To Email Jail This Time For Sure emulatorloo Feb 2016 #29
RW propagandist also claimed Valerie Plame outing was a 'contrived scandal'. The guy's psychotic. blm Feb 2016 #32
We'll see if the story comes out on other media. senz Feb 2016 #34
.. mcar Feb 2016 #37
The wages of derp are derp. geek tragedy Feb 2016 #41
Recomended Autumn Feb 2016 #42
K/R 840high Feb 2016 #43
Ahhh, the half-truth brigade. Shhhh! Don't tell that those emails were not secret when she got them! Festivito Feb 2016 #44
My bad ejbr Feb 2016 #45

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
3. Good question.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:34 PM
Feb 2016

I just put the brief bio available on the site above or:



John Schindler is a security expert and former National Security Agency analyst and counterintelligence officer. A specialist in espionage and terrorism, he's also been a Navy officer and a War College professor.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
7. That the source has written several columns making judgments on the illegality of HRC's actions ...
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:37 PM
Feb 2016

despite those judgments conflicting with National Security experts judgment on the topic; but, that is enough to post to DU, and get plenty of recs.

VMA131Marine

(4,139 posts)
5. Really! You post a link to an article from the New York Observer
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:36 PM
Feb 2016

a paper owned and published by the son-in-law of Donald Trump. Really!

This isn't a story either. It's an opinion piece without a single named attribution other than to a Fox News Story. It's a load of bollocks!

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
39. Fair enough
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 08:09 PM
Feb 2016

but the story is out there. The only push back other than the source is that she is not in legal jeopardy, no comments on her continuous poor judgment.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
6. DU has gone full Beghazi.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:36 PM
Feb 2016

Clinton is putting American lives at risk. What shady shit and something the right throws at democrats every single election season.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
17. Big time.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:42 PM
Feb 2016

The really messed up part is that this directly echoes right wing smears on the Clintons for decades. There is simply nothing there with the emails so they have to spin it. The rights favorite way to do so is to point at deems and say they are weak or are putting American lives at risk.

Autumn

(45,084 posts)
21. The Koch Industries fund the Tax Foundation being used to trash Bernie and
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:45 PM
Feb 2016

that seems to be fine and worthy of a rec and no complaint.

salib

(2,116 posts)
12. Even Fox News knows this story is disingenuous
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:40 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-greta-van-susteren-sees-no-legal-liability-in-hillary-emails/

The e-mails' content WAS NOT CONSIDERED CLASSIFIED at the time they were sent.

Classification changes. That does not make those who touched it before guilty of anything.

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
27. She may have no legal jeopardy,
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:47 PM
Feb 2016

but her unauthorized set-up could do damage whether she was ignorant of the importance of the emails or not. Poor judgment, like Iraq

salib

(2,116 posts)
30. Still disingenuous.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:52 PM
Feb 2016

So, if someone designates information that you passed along as not classified. Was it poor judgement on your part to pass it along?

Then, someone in Gov't decides that it is actually top secret. Are you saying that you had bad judgement retroactively?

We are better than this.

salib

(2,116 posts)
35. I am a Sanders supporter
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 08:01 PM
Feb 2016

And am not a right winger.

Rather insulting generalization.

So, we have disingenuous rumor mongering vs. disingenuous generalizations.

Many might call both slander.

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
38. Given your support of a Corporatist war hawk,
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 08:06 PM
Feb 2016

one could say the same of Clinton supporters...just sayin'

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
36. The judgement I am referring to
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 08:04 PM
Feb 2016

is not the passing of the information, but of the private email use for state department business. We would not be discussing this if her innocently sending and receiving information was a problem.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
40. This point is valid:
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 08:12 PM
Feb 2016
Most controversially, Hillary and her mouthpieces have kept pushing the line that none of this information was “marked” classified when it appeared in her personal emails, despite the fact that this claim, even if true, does not mitigate any disclosure of classified information. Her defense seems to be that neither she nor anybody on her staff were able to recognize that Top Secret information was actually Top Secret, which is hardly a ringing endorsement of Hillary’s qualifications to be our next commander-in-chief.

riversedge

(70,218 posts)
19. The Observer has a RW hit piece on Hillary almost every day that is posted here on DU. It is
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:44 PM
Feb 2016

shameful that Sanders supporters and the vile RW share the same mentality.

emulatorloo

(44,124 posts)
29. Wonkette: Hillary Clinton Definitely Going To Email Jail This Time For Sure
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:50 PM
Feb 2016
Hillary Clinton Definitely Going To Email Jail This Time For Sure
By Doktor Zoom - January 30, 2016 - 12:13pm

http://wonkette.com/598345/hillary-clinton-definitely-going-to-email-jail-this-time-for-sure#kkEfU4SQHKhtkjM7.99

Better call the House Select Committee on Benghazi back into session, because with just days to go before the Iowa caucuses, there’s finally some huge shocking news about Hillary Clinton and all the Top Secret emails on her private server, which as everyone knows is the one issue that Americans simply can’t seem to stop talking about, at least after they’ve exhausted talking about the weather, sportsball, television, movies, their children, cat videos they saw on YouTube, and whether this milk is giving their coffee that funny taste. The carton says it’s not expired yet, but it might be a little off. Here, smell it, what do you think? And then right after that, Hillary’s emails.

What happened was that before releasing January’s monthly stash of emails Friday, the State Department announced that it was withholding 22 of the emails because they contained information that has been reclassified as “Top Secret,” although State Department spokesman John Kirby pointed out that “these documents were not marked classified at the time they were sent.” It’s also not clear whether the newly reclassified emails were sent by Clinton, or had been sent to her by other State Department staff; the New York Times notes that the bulk of emails released from Clinton’s server so far “were messages written by other State Department officials and forwarded by her closest aides.”

Still, they were on her private server, and they’re now marked classified, so the only logical conclusion is that Hillary Clinton is a spy. Be careful, her bowtie is really a camera.

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So anyway, Hillz, it was nice knowing you, bummer about how this HUGE SCANDAL will finally murder your campaign just like you personally strangled Vince Foster while not declaring your tax losses on Whitewater and planning the attack on Benghazi. Maybe if you’re lucky, you really will get another 11 hours of grilling from House Republicans, seeing as how that made you look great last time.


<Much more at link>

blm

(113,061 posts)
32. RW propagandist also claimed Valerie Plame outing was a 'contrived scandal'. The guy's psychotic.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:55 PM
Feb 2016

.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
34. We'll see if the story comes out on other media.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 08:00 PM
Feb 2016

If it's true, it doesn't look good for Clinton.

Discussions with Intelligence Community officials have revealed that Ms. Clinton’s “unclassified” emails included Holy Grail items of American espionage such as the true names of Central Intelligence Agency intelligence officers serving overseas under cover. Worse, some of those exposed are serving under non-official cover. NOCs (see this for an explanation of their important role in espionage) are the pointy end of the CIA spear and they are always at risk of exposure – which is what Ms. Clinton’s emails have done.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
44. Ahhh, the half-truth brigade. Shhhh! Don't tell that those emails were not secret when she got them!
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 10:41 PM
Feb 2016

Nor were they classified when she may have sent them.

Carefully word everything to make it sound bad bad bad. (Even though you know it was not bad at all!)

Remind that it is a criminal matter.... even though that would not apply to someone who only handled it before it was classified.

Remind that people's lives could be at risk ... even though the chances of that are nil and even if it was it was SOMEONE ELSE'S MISTAKE.

Then wait and re-post it as though no one ever said a thing about it.

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
45. My bad
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 06:13 AM
Feb 2016

We should give her the benefit of the doubt about the 30,000 deleted emails because... Hillary or something. Got it.

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