2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary "Yes I Am FOR $15/hr Min Wage... Then a few Words Later... Nahhh, Really for $12/Hr TOPS!
Hillaryous! People are really willing to accept this DOUBLE TALK? C'mon! Wake The ____ UP people!
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)and in exchange she will support TPP
and throw in a pipeline
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)My husband has some blind friends who are losing their SSDI. I have a feeling it was because of the compromises made during the last budget deal. This is February after all. Just a couple of months into the new year. When they asked SSA they were told they would have to go through the system all over again. I will never ever ever again vote for any politician who compromises on SS. Never.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)all these fake quotes are kind of disappointing.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)It's unfortunate, but quite a number of us just don't trust what HRC says. So, pointing to something that she says is not going to count for much.
If you do trust HRC, I'm sure that's not easy or fun to see that many of us don't trust her.
This primary is unusual in many aspects, but for many of us we are presented with a very stark and very important choice. We have two candidates running. One is one of the MOST trustworthy politicians in D.C. (for many of us) running against one of the LEAST trustworthy politicians in our Party (for many of us).
Again, I know it's difficult for HRC supporters, and I wish the current primary wasn't as divisive as it's turning out to be. I really do. But this primary is for the heart and soul of the Democratic Party going forward for Bernie supporters. And, for many of us, we just can't abide the "New Democratic" Party any longer. Too many Americans have lost too much over the last 3 to 4 decades. Many of us have had enough. We're demanding a return to traditional Democratic Party values a la FDR (if that's not obvious yet - lol). We strongly believe HRC will not take the Party there, and we strongly believe that Bernie would begin the process to take us there.
A lot is at stake for us.
Thank you for continuing to represent HRC so well. It speaks well for you.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)the general. Being my state is almost last in the primaries, I feel it's going to be more important overall, especially since there is such divisiveness in the party. I'm sick and tired of the OTT hatred I am hearing- towards not just Hillary but countless other public servants, and worry it will lead more voters to be disaffected instead of truly engaged. I
have no idea how we could ever get a Dems back in congress and the house where we need them, but I know even when we do, a lot of them will be more conservative than Hillary. It's not going to be a cake walk for anyone.
I appreciate your kind words, you speak well for Bernie.
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)she'll settle for 6.25 an hour...
And they have given anything in return...
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)She said each of the States should pass laws for $15 hr. On the Federal Level, she would get $12 an hour as a minimum.
But then, you're not interested in what she really said. Nope.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)Playing games with people's lives.
Shame on her and shame on anyone and everyone who actually defends this bull shit.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)She should if she was smart but she isn't.
Everything is a compromise and what she names IS her high number and she and Bernie will BOTH settle on less. In reality, Bernie will probably get $12/hr and Hillary will get maybe $8.75.
Think about it!
Maybe she is too worried about her former employer, Walmart.
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)..she and her political career would be roadkill...
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)
Corruption Inc This message was self-deleted by its author.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)character is OK... So long as she is a Registered Democrat? Unbelievable!
one_voice
(20,043 posts)Are we doing that now? Making it up as we go along? That could be fun if we *all* do it.
quantumjunkie
(244 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Amishman
(5,557 posts)she'll agree to say $12 and happily bargain with the pubs down to under $10
we can do better than Hillary
fbc
(1,668 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)...as long as I believe she'll keep us moving in the right direction.
Would prefer less in the way of waffling.
nilesobek
(1,423 posts)10 or 15 dollars an hour is a total poverty wage. If you do the math, that 15 dollar an hour wage will send a family reeling into the streets homeless. Only a single person could possibly get by on that.
Capitalism is social darwinism and has failed America.
Capitalism is a cult replete with cult followers. When mixed with religion it is deadly. There should be a warning label.
On the solution side, the Cayman Islands should be invaded by Marines and all that money returned to the American people. Change the color of our currency and then deny transferring any old money to new money conditional upon the applicants proving where they got the money AND that they pais sufficient taxes on it. That should clear quite a lot of the flotsam out there.