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Bernout - why I'm supporting Hillary now (Original Post) Justice Feb 2016 OP
This is becoming more and more common. nt NurseJackie Feb 2016 #1
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I see it for what it is ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #4
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Welcome to DU! grossproffit Feb 2016 #6
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Do you think people will ignore Bernie's call Hortensis Feb 2016 #17
If he doesn't have what it takes to convince enough DEMOCRATS to nominate him, then ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #11
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People are much smarter than you think. (I have no worries at all!) NurseJackie Feb 2016 #16
He is convincing enough DEMOCRATS, all right. If he didn't you people wouldn't be Cal33 Feb 2016 #19
What Cal33 said. freedom fighter jh Feb 2016 #21
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Welcome to DU! grossproffit Feb 2016 #7
you're right farleftlib Feb 2016 #9
But the Republicans will RAPE us. Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #10
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It's looking more and more like the majority of Democrats disagree with you. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #12
Hey Lanore .... sister_rosa_refried Feb 2016 #25
You got it! NurseJackie Feb 2016 #26
Enjoy your stay shenmue Feb 2016 #23
YEAP, VERY factual outline of why not Sanders. I was on the fence till "trust me" also became uponit7771 Feb 2016 #15
I think that says it all. LAS14 Feb 2016 #18
Yup. Makes sense. K & R nt Persondem Feb 2016 #20
Kicking so others who may be tilting can see it. LAS14 Feb 2016 #22
Kick dlwickham Feb 2016 #24
"Bern-out" Catchy. McCamy Taylor Feb 2016 #27
Kicked and recommended. Firebrand Gary Feb 2016 #28
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Welcome aboard. nt fun n serious Feb 2016 #30
Thank you! Great piece. Lucinda Feb 2016 #31
I'll take Les Leopold over Bruce Jackson any day of the week Agony Feb 2016 #32
Excellent! FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #33
Bernie haz a sad Liberal_in_LA Feb 2016 #34
Perfectly stated - nt LAS14 Feb 2016 #35
Good essay. n/t fleabiscuit Feb 2016 #36
super post ....thank-you ;) mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #37
K&R! Treant Feb 2016 #38
K&R. nt UtahLib Feb 2016 #39
Are people too stupid to check the general election polls jfern Feb 2016 #40
Yes, it was worth the read Dem2 Feb 2016 #41
K for those who might be re-considering LAS14 Feb 2016 #42

Response to NurseJackie (Reply #1)

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
4. I see it for what it is ...
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 09:01 AM
Feb 2016

... and the author is not alone in the sentiments and observations. Feel free to dismiss it and me, but that won't change the reality of where Bernie's campaign is headed. He will not be the nominee, period.



Have a nice day.

Response to NurseJackie (Reply #4)

Response to grossproffit (Reply #6)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. Do you think people will ignore Bernie's call
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 09:38 AM
Feb 2016

to man the ramparts of democracy against the right because he doesn't happen to be the candidate? Or is it that you think he'll abandon the nation to the right in a miff?

True, Bernie is not a liberal and, like many of the little group of followers gathered here, is peculiarly focused on liberals as a problem, but do you think that his narrow focus means he wouldn't unite to fight the destructive antigovernment forces massed on the right?

I believe he'll continue to fight for his beliefs from the Senate. I assume he will be able to refocus and and join the campaign against the ultraconservative plotting in the general.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
11. If he doesn't have what it takes to convince enough DEMOCRATS to nominate him, then ...
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 09:23 AM
Feb 2016

... he doesn't have what it takes to actually win a general election. (Of course, my observation doesn't take into account that he'd actually have to BE the nominee in order to run as a Democrat ... but I think the point is clear.)



Have a nice day!

Response to NurseJackie (Reply #11)

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
19. He is convincing enough DEMOCRATS, all right. If he didn't you people wouldn't be
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:12 AM
Feb 2016

doing everything possible to prevent him from being seen and heard by the general
public - like having as few Democratic debates as possible, and putting these on
weekends and before holidays, so that fewer people will be listening to him. These
are foul dirty tricks, and I'm sure you are agreeing that they are foul and dirty.
Would you people be doing these things if you really believed that Bernie doesn't
have a chance to "win a general election"?

Bernie started running in May 2015. Hillary was some 40% points ahead of him.
And he was 0.3% behind her in Iowa 2 weeks ago, 22% ahead of her in New
Hampshire last week, and 4% behind her yesterday. It's a rare thing for anyone
to make such huge strides in such a short period of time. I expect him to lose in
almost all the Southern States, of course, but he does have a good chance of
winning in many, if not most, of the rest of the nation.

Another thing: In comparing Bernie and Hillary to Republicans for the General
Elections, most of the time Bernie beat them by higher percentage points than
Hillary did. Many Democrats are convinced that even if Hillary should beat
Bernie in the Primaries to win the Dem. nomination, she would lose to the
Republicans in the GE, whereas Bernie has already shown that he would beat them.

Response to Justice (Original post)

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
9. you're right
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 09:08 AM
Feb 2016

For the first time in history a presidential candidate is the subject of two FBI investigations. If she prevails she will screw the middle class and poor much worse than her husband did, and that's no joke.

Welcome to DU.

Response to Betty Karlson (Reply #10)

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
12. It's looking more and more like the majority of Democrats disagree with you.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 09:26 AM
Feb 2016
Hillary is one of the most corrupt candidates not only running now, but ever in history.

Oh, dear. HWGA

uponit7771

(90,359 posts)
15. YEAP, VERY factual outline of why not Sanders. I was on the fence till "trust me" also became
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 09:36 AM
Feb 2016

... a major part of his implementation details

Trump is saying trust me also, fuck that

Response to Justice (Original post)

jfern

(5,204 posts)
40. Are people too stupid to check the general election polls
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:22 AM
Feb 2016

And see that Bernie does much better there?

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