2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDelegates: 51 vs. 51 - It is literally a tie at this moment.
Clinton will probably do better in South Carolina, but as of now no one has won anything.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)are forty seven more states and some territories.
FarPoint
(12,432 posts)Superdelegates will take Hillary way, way over the top. May not even be necessary after Super Tuesday... U see Sanders falling off the radar then.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)and one BLOWOUT! Clearly the caucuses are rife with cheating by the Campaign that is willing to do anything to meet the requirement to be "appointed" President!
FarPoint
(12,432 posts)It's a street fight....
redgreenandblue
(2,088 posts)They will go with the popular vote or hand the gop the general.
FarPoint
(12,432 posts)Superdelegates, they do matter.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)respond if you get it....
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)lights and give up. This is the THIRD state, and while Sanders has continuously been trending up in national polling, he's still 6 or 7 points behind Clinton in the rolling averages. This was supposed to be a 'FIREWALL' state for Clinton, and she won by 4% - LESS than the national average spread. If anything, it was a far better result than anyone on Sanders' side should have expected, if not for the suddenly misleading polls in the week before hat raised everyone's expectations for Sanders.
If anything, the 'lesson' about Nevada was that the expectations game still works. By pretending that Sanders was even, the media could spin it as a 'major blow' for Sanders, when in reality, he had been expected to lose far worse going in.
Just a reminder, he's expected to lose SC by like 20-25 points, so don't get all angsty when he does, even if polling suddenly pops up that shows him only 5-10 points down. It's more expectations game tweaking to make him seem like he's doing worse than he is.
He's GOING to lose more states early on, the trend lines haven't caught up. Wait until he's really tied with her in rolling averages of polling before you expect to see him winning more.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)the caucus system is now clearly fixed against bernie.he won't win any caucus states.she will get a big win in sc.maybe not as large
as bernie did In NH but still a win by at least 10 points.
she will soon be able to say she won 3 out of 4 first contests and bernie only won NH because it's next door to vermont.
smears of bernie and his supporters are working.
it's pointless to try to appeal to black voters most ogf them made up their minds and won't even listen to bernie.
ejbr
(5,856 posts)Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)They are about as favorable to Sanders as any other state in the process.
He needed to do a hell of a lot better than a tie" to have any realistic chance going forward. He didn't, and now starts the very clear beginning of the end for him.
Dustlawyer
(10,497 posts)The corporations will do anything to beat Bernie to avoid losing control over our government and shutting off all of the cash that swirls around Washington. Hillary is their best tool to retain power and money is what they use to prevent Representative Democracy. Politicians like Hillary protect Donors and do their bidding, passing laws to protect their thieving ways. A Princeton study demonstrated that what the people want has no effect on politicians and our process, whereas donations do! The fact that Hillary has said that all of that corporate money she and Bill have enjoyed for 40 years has no effect on her policies is a sad joke!
The Donors have used their money and influence to get politicians to support and endorse Hillary, keep the MSM propaganda flowing, and rig the elections process itself so that so called "super delegates" Lobbiests and former Party Aparachnics, can pull out close Primary results. DWS even admitted that SD's are there to prevent Party big wigs from losing to grass roots (we the people) candidates.
Hillary supporters must be so proud!