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Delegates: 51 vs. 51 - It is literally a tie at this moment. (Original Post) redgreenandblue Feb 2016 OP
Exactly what has been said for a long time, the primary is not about just three states, there Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #1
Ahhh there is more....Convention is a long way off. FarPoint Feb 2016 #2
There IS More To This Than Two Caucuses With Democratic Party/Union Questionable Tactics CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #3
Some things you just have to deal with.... FarPoint Feb 2016 #4
Super delegates don't mean shit. Period. redgreenandblue Feb 2016 #5
The memo has already been sent and acknowledged... FarPoint Feb 2016 #11
Say my name! thereismore Feb 2016 #12
I couldn't figure out why several supposed Sanders supporters were suddenly ready to turn out the Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #6
here is why Robbins Feb 2016 #8
+1 n/t ejbr Feb 2016 #9
Two of those three states were IA and NH. Bleacher Creature Feb 2016 #7
I have not given up! We knew we were fighting a political revolution at the beginning! Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #10

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. Exactly what has been said for a long time, the primary is not about just three states, there
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:41 AM
Feb 2016

are forty seven more states and some territories.

FarPoint

(12,432 posts)
2. Ahhh there is more....Convention is a long way off.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:42 AM
Feb 2016

Superdelegates will take Hillary way, way over the top. May not even be necessary after Super Tuesday... U see Sanders falling off the radar then.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
3. There IS More To This Than Two Caucuses With Democratic Party/Union Questionable Tactics
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:45 AM
Feb 2016

and one BLOWOUT! Clearly the caucuses are rife with cheating by the Campaign that is willing to do anything to meet the requirement to be "appointed" President!

redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts)
5. Super delegates don't mean shit. Period.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:53 AM
Feb 2016

They will go with the popular vote or hand the gop the general.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
6. I couldn't figure out why several supposed Sanders supporters were suddenly ready to turn out the
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:55 AM
Feb 2016

lights and give up. This is the THIRD state, and while Sanders has continuously been trending up in national polling, he's still 6 or 7 points behind Clinton in the rolling averages. This was supposed to be a 'FIREWALL' state for Clinton, and she won by 4% - LESS than the national average spread. If anything, it was a far better result than anyone on Sanders' side should have expected, if not for the suddenly misleading polls in the week before hat raised everyone's expectations for Sanders.

If anything, the 'lesson' about Nevada was that the expectations game still works. By pretending that Sanders was even, the media could spin it as a 'major blow' for Sanders, when in reality, he had been expected to lose far worse going in.

Just a reminder, he's expected to lose SC by like 20-25 points, so don't get all angsty when he does, even if polling suddenly pops up that shows him only 5-10 points down. It's more expectations game tweaking to make him seem like he's doing worse than he is.

He's GOING to lose more states early on, the trend lines haven't caught up. Wait until he's really tied with her in rolling averages of polling before you expect to see him winning more.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
8. here is why
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:03 AM
Feb 2016

the caucus system is now clearly fixed against bernie.he won't win any caucus states.she will get a big win in sc.maybe not as large
as bernie did In NH but still a win by at least 10 points.

she will soon be able to say she won 3 out of 4 first contests and bernie only won NH because it's next door to vermont.

smears of bernie and his supporters are working.

it's pointless to try to appeal to black voters most ogf them made up their minds and won't even listen to bernie.

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
7. Two of those three states were IA and NH.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:56 AM
Feb 2016

They are about as favorable to Sanders as any other state in the process.

He needed to do a hell of a lot better than a tie" to have any realistic chance going forward. He didn't, and now starts the very clear beginning of the end for him.

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
10. I have not given up! We knew we were fighting a political revolution at the beginning!
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:15 AM
Feb 2016

The corporations will do anything to beat Bernie to avoid losing control over our government and shutting off all of the cash that swirls around Washington. Hillary is their best tool to retain power and money is what they use to prevent Representative Democracy. Politicians like Hillary protect Donors and do their bidding, passing laws to protect their thieving ways. A Princeton study demonstrated that what the people want has no effect on politicians and our process, whereas donations do! The fact that Hillary has said that all of that corporate money she and Bill have enjoyed for 40 years has no effect on her policies is a sad joke!

The Donors have used their money and influence to get politicians to support and endorse Hillary, keep the MSM propaganda flowing, and rig the elections process itself so that so called "super delegates" Lobbiests and former Party Aparachnics, can pull out close Primary results. DWS even admitted that SD's are there to prevent Party big wigs from losing to grass roots (we the people) candidates.

Hillary supporters must be so proud!

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