Official Dem Town Hall Thread #2 of 2- 9-10 PM w/ Hillary @ CNN *Be nice to each other, please!!*

[bettyellen]

A thread for those of us to watch together and comment without rancor or insults. Let us give credit where it is due to both our candidates.
Will go to a second thread at 9Pm for the Hillary half. If you have no hate in your heart, please join in!



If you want to rip any Democrat to shreds, no popcorn or beer for you!


THREAD #1 IS HERE:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511321040

If anyone can help me track down links to watch it for FREE live, please let me know so I can add to this thread. Thanks in advance.



The two-hour broadcast will begin on CNN at 8 p.m.- 10 PM ET, with one hour for each candidate.
Also on: CNN en Español and CNN International.

Online: CNNgo will let people stream the whole thing as a "free preview"
http://www.cnn.com/CNNI/Programs/cnngo/

or maybe here? http://www.hulkusc.com/cnn-news-live-streaming/

CNN to Go is also an App.

Radio listeners: CNN's Sirius XM channel.

Will add other links as I find them- thanks!

[The Redheaded Guy]

1. One thing I'll say about the audience....

They were very, very responsive of Bernie tonight.

I'd like to see how the audience deals with Clinton.

[bettyellen]

2. I think they have been well behaved and fair. Am guessing it is Hillarys room.

[bkkyosemite]

3. That title thing was staged...I'm sorry bout that yea I'm sure you are

[bettyellen]

5. He seems like a real jerk.

[bettyellen]

4. endorsements, etc... do you believe you have turned a corner?

nope, have to fight for every vote, 47 more contests.

[MrMickeysMom]

6. Will you release the transcripts now includes...

"If everybody else does it.... AND THAT INCLUDES REPUBLICANS!"

[TCJ70]

9. Still weaseling out of that one...

...I can't believe she won't just release them.

[TTUBatfan2008]

7. "And that includes the GOP speeches"

This is why voters don't trust you. Let's call it an artful dodge.

[bettyellen]

22. I think that is a GREAT point. They hold Dems to double standards all day long.

[TTUBatfan2008]

31. No no

The GOP is owned 100% by corporations. Does anyone doubt this? She is a Democrat running on reform. So yes I'm going to hold her to a higher standard than a Republican who is 100% in favor of unfettered capitalism.

[Duckhunter935]

76. and we are better than them

she should set the standard

[bettyellen]

138. Yes, she can't let there be higher standards for Dems only. Nope.

Gotta play the long game.

[napi21]

24. I have to agree with you on that. It's Bernie who asked for her speach transcripts, so

if Bernie releases his, that should trigger hers. Repubs aren't included in this discussion.

[madokie]

123. Seems like Bernie did

and he only had one that he was paid all of 500 bucks for and the money went directly to a charity. Never passed through Bernies hands. He's squeaky clean on this one.

[Gregorian]

8. So in the general, when she asks Trump for his transcripts...then what?

[bettyellen]

15. It will ruin him, one hopes.

[MrMickeysMom]

45. Did he even present any speeches to Wall Street?

I can't think of any candidate but HRC who did.

[bettyellen]

51. I think i would be to any private group- why wouldn't it?

Special interests come in lots of flavors. I want to hear what the Republicans are saying to evangelists!!!

[MrMickeysMom]

56. Good point...

Wonder if it'll go anywhere (I'm not holding my breath)

[bettyellen]

69. Thanks! I think she is great at shooting down RW bullshit.

Good to see you here! Tks for keeping it chill!

[PADemD]

10. My connection froze in the middle of her answer.

Did yours?

[bettyellen]

13. Nope.

[bettyellen]

11. Asking about releasing the speech... She is pivoting to talking about banks and they're too powerful

now says there is a "double standard" about releasing the transcripts.


when she says everyone release them- she specifically means Republicans. Very good point.

[TTUBatfan2008]

20. It's a terrible point.

The GOP is owned 100% by the corporations. She's dodging the question because there is some damaging stuff in her speeches.

[napi21]

35. Yes, that was a dodge. I posted aboue that it was Bernie (her opponent!) that asked

for the transcripts, and not the Pubs. Also, if Bernie is right, the only Pubs who would have to comply with her is Trump & Carson, because the others are current office holders and aren't permitted to do paid speeches. Who really cares about Trump's speeches, and Carson is not even a comma in the campaign.

[bettyellen]

36. I am guessing they will be released. Actually one is on Youtube and it's good.

But I think it is true- if she is expected to, so should Donald, Rubio and the Cruz. That is fair.

[TTUBatfan2008]

40. The one on YouTube...

...was a Clinton Foundation speech sponsored by a bank. Not the same as a speech where she is paid to provide motivation or advice to bank employees.

[bkkyosemite]

12. She sounds defensive

[MelSC]

14. I really appreciate how Bernie

Is usually very respectful toward Hillary...I really do, he's a class act.

[MrMickeysMom]

25. Agree, MelSC!

It matters.

[bettyellen]

32. And increasingly respectful to Obama. He has learned a thing or two.

[Armstead]

16. I havta admit -- I had to turn it off. So I'll look at this thread to get the gist

[bettyellen]

26. Welcome, friend! It's Guantanamo... which is apparently an issue in SC because they have a

detention center.

[Gregorian]

17. Actually, the point she's making about influence of money might explain Obama's limitations.

Talking with someone today about how Obama had people like Geitner around.

[dogman]

29. How many Wall Street crooks are in jail?

Belies her point IMO.

[Jitter65]

108. Yeah, because Congressional obstruction doesn't count.??? nt

[Gregorian]

134. You're the second person to catch me on that today.

But the first one ended up in agreement when we started rattling off all of the appointments that were not even liberal.

I still think Obama is a great president, including the obstruction. What he could have done. It's hard not to be resentful.

[elleng]

18. Thanks, bettyellen.

Is there a #1 thread???

[jonjon]

23. #1

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511321040

[bettyellen]

28. thanks for the assist!

[MrMickeysMom]

19. "Why is it okay to have some of the worst people in your back yard?"

What a stupid question...

We have high level security prisons doing this in all sorts of people's back yards already.

[bettyellen]

30. Cuomo seems to be a big jerk!

[MrMickeysMom]

37. I wonder... who's been the least jerky in these moderator of debates?

It's so hard to choose among the people "given" to us.

[Ned_Devine]

65. The ladies from PBS were pretty nice...I think

[MrMickeysMom]

70. I didn't watch that one... Gwen Iffle must have been one of them.

PBS commentators have always been a cut above, even if the corporation for public broadcasting got sucked into corporatism.

[bettyellen]

75. yes! Maddow and Ifill are about the only two people I can stand.

[bettyellen]

72. Better Q than anything that came out of Cuomo's mouth, LOL.

[Merryland]

82. Gwen Ifill asking Bernie didn't he think he was interfering

with getting the first woman president. As a woman I so resented that.

[napi21]

46. I'm still having a hard time understanding why the Repubs don't want the prisoners from Gitmo to be

detained in Max Security Prisons in the US. We have, and have had, lots of people who were every bit as dangerous as those in Gitmo. Many of the really bad ones have already been executed, but there are still many, many still in those facilities. Don't they think these facilities are secure? Or is it just another "Obama wants it so we don't?

[bettyellen]

49. For sure: "Obama wants it so we don't?"

[napi21]

127. Not what I said. I'm asking if the Pubs have a REASON or are they just objecting because

Obama wants it. I KNOW we all want it closed, the question was why are the Pubs fighting against it?

[bettyellen]

130. Yes- I was (clumsily) agreeing with you- that is THEIR only reason, Obama. ;-D

They are like children.

[votesparks]

21. If Hillary called out Wall Street...

then you figure she would be eager to release her speeches to Wall Street firms, which would confirm that she was telling them to cut it out.

[bobbobbins01]

27. Hillary is trying to run out the clock

Less questions means less accountability.

[riversedge]

33. Do you realize how silly you sound making up stuff like your post??

[bobbobbins01]

34. Begone.

Your propaganda won't work on me!

[bettyellen]

38. You're like two cubs fighting- NO BITING PLEASE!!! LOL.

[MrMickeysMom]

41. Not nearly as silly as the 13 words in yours!

[bettyellen]

47. C'mob guys! Break it up and knock glasses!

:cheers:

[nolabear]

39. I always enjoy hearing Hillary discuss foreign policy. She knows her stuff so well.

[bettyellen]

43. Yes. She goes deep!

[bettyellen]

42. Q about recent racial tensions, and what does she plan to do to heal relations?

-barriers stand in the way to achieving their dreams, systemic problems we need to be honest about...
justice, housing jobs, education and cultural problems.

Points toward five activist Moms who have lost children to gun violence....
We have to be honest and recognize we don't have the same experiences, but issues still need to be addressed.

[Gregorian]

44. I'm aiming my Soul-O-Meter at the tv, and she is lacking in her enthusiasm for others.

[bettyellen]

48. Poor woman gets a Beyonce question. Oh man, Cuomo sucks eggs.

[one_voice]

54. Yeah that was kinda weird..

I think those cops suck. They protect the freakin' KKK so they can march.

[unc70]

67. She has no clue about Beyoncé

She talked all around the topic trying to find something to say. Bringing up anything that might be remotely related. Police! Oh yeah! Let's talk about police. And talk, and talk.

[bettyellen]

92. It was about the cop groups protesting Beyonce, so yeah.... I wish she had rapped a little

of Formation. Such a great song.

[leftofcool]

136. Actually she does. She is working quite closely with Beyonce and others in Flint

[Matariki]

80. Are you kidding me?

Is this Pop Culture Trivial Pursuit or the election for one of the most powerful positions on the planet??

[bettyellen]

89. THE QS ALL OVER THE PLACE. Sorry for shouting. Good to see you here!

[Matariki]

97. I got home too late to watch. Thanks much for the thread

And for doing the good work of keeping us all civil

[bettyellen]

104. Thank YOU! Weird Qs for Hill. RGB loved Scalia- so who is your Scalia? WEIRD.

She was also asked about Beyonce (and the police) and the role of reconciliation in healing the nation.
Heavy shit.

[The Redheaded Guy]

53. I agree n/t

The audience are pretty muted now..

[nc4bo]

50. We can never fix racism only the negative effects it has on the victims.

Rather minimizenthe effects it has on society.

We can provide all the education, religion and sensitivity training in the world and it will never force people to not be a racist.

Makes me so sad that we all can't just accept one another as humanbeings of equal value.

[bobbobbins01]

52. Hillary always does that namedropping thing.

Its weirdly awkward.

[riversedge]

55. Clinton: Important for whites to admit they don't understand what African-Americans face every day.

The Advocate Verified account ‏@TheAdvocateMag 5m5 minutes ago

Clinton: Important for whites to admit they don't understand what African-Americans face every day. #DemTownHall

[Avalux]

57. LOL and I guess she does?

[bettyellen]

60. She has spent a lot more time listening over the years. Sanders only recently is catching up.

[Avalux]

64. She made a blanket statement about white people.

Plenty of us listen and help. It's offensive she said that.

[bettyellen]

66. And she says we need to do more (without making it about us and getting offended). Truth.

[Avalux]

68. We do need to do more. I'm sick of her playing us against each other though. n/t

[bettyellen]

71. first step is to listen, yet not take it personally. very much not a game to many people.

good to see you here!

[vdogg]

132. Umm, I'm sure she includes herself in "white people"

Was she insulting herself?

[Jitter65]

101. She is white, so I assume that she includes herself in that group. She never even inferred that/

And her point was spot on.

[bettyellen]

58. On w's college "women were in charge of everything". Interesting. The leadership opportunities

are so much greater.
As a senator, formed an all women bipartisan group to trade info and ideas on women's issues.

[bkkyosemite]

61. And I felt the question a plant for her to answer.

[bettyellen]

63. they both got a few softballs, some zingers, and some stupid questions.

[riversedge]

59. All of us remember when we went natural. And it's beautiful. #DemTownHall

Beautiful moment



Donna Brazile Verified account ‏@donnabrazile 2m2 minutes ago

Donna Brazile Retweeted Zerlina Maxwell

All of us remember when we went natural. And it's beautiful. #DemTownHall

[nc4bo]

78. We're also subject to nasty treatment from society because of it. It's getting better but.......

Sometimes our very own can be the absolute worse of the worst.

Black people gotta deal with a lot of mess.

[bettyellen]

62. Talking about college fees debt- 7-9% interest rate. She gets a refinance, and contingency

repayment plan (to repay by % of salary) as she had when she repaid law school.

[one_voice]

79. I loved her answer on student loans

& repayments.

I've been waiting to hear something on young people that currently have debt. I think it's great that she & Bernie wanna make college affordable; but what about those kids that are struggling now. They need help too.

I have to go back and watch Bernie's segment, I have it recorded. I wasn't able to watch live.

[bobbobbins01]

73. There's that southern twang.

I knew it would pop up eventually tonight.

[nolabear]

77. Mine pops up like that. When I hear it in others it really kicks in.

It's one of my favorite things about me.

[bettyellen]

86. Sometimes I sound Puerto Rican again, even though my parent are Irish.

I was immersed for many years, in The Bronx.

[nolabear]

87. Hah! Can't escape our raisin'.

[ecstatic]

74. Just tuning in. Hillary is extremely calm/muted tonight

Didn't care for the pastor's question. That's not a president's job. And I'm not comfortable jumping to conclusions or blaming parents whose kids turned psycho.

[bettyellen]

83. Hey Ecstatic! Welcome!! Sanders was muted as well. Mixed bag of Qs. The host is being a jerk.

The highlight has been the audience members, a few plants w/ softballs, but mostly genuine I think.
Not too much baiting, but Cuomo has tried....

[nolabear]

85. I thought he was speaking in the terms he found meaningful. He's concerned about families.

Might not be fit for legislation but it's on peoples; minds and I didn't think he was blaming anyone for "psychos". If families are more in touch and aren't afraid to talk to one another it can be helpful. THere's got to be SOME way to talk together about these things.

[Kittycat]

93. Sounds like he's asking her more Q's than audience.

Let the audience ask. His Q's are odd and random, even with Bernie. The people are doing a much better job, imo. He should just call on them more.

[bettyellen]

94. Yep. They seem to be getting some very heart felt questions. he comes a softball!

[bobbobbins01]

106. She got a little wound up at first about the speeches, but now the valium is kicking in.

I try to judge candidates by the content of what they say, but I'm having a hard time staying focused on what shes saying because its so long winded and monotone.

[bettyellen]

110. I believe they both got memos they were too loud last week!

Also, sore throats.

Tks for being here!

[bobbobbins01]

115. Yeah, Bernie needed to drink some water.

His voice is getting more worn out as the campaign goes on.

[bettyellen]

118. lozenges! that fucker Cuomo said "have water BS, it's free". what a prick!

tks for stopping by!

[Gregorian]

81. ----Funky gospel intermission---

[bettyellen]

84. Lovely- thank you!

[bettyellen]

88. Benghazi motherfuckers. She slayed the Repubs and is not afraid to remind us of that.

Good for her.

[still_one]

90. Excellent response by Hillary on Social Security, including raising the CAP

[one_voice]

91. She wants to prevent SS from being

privatized. Good!

[bettyellen]

95. Yep. Important.

[bettyellen]

96. She is asking her about "forgiveness". Is it me or is this to nebulous and emotional?

[bettyellen]

98. Truth and Reconciliation Tribunal. I saw the building in Arusha where they are still having hearings

[nolabear]

102. I value these now and then. It says a lot about a person how they answer.

[bettyellen]

107. I thought she was brilliant answering that. Genuine.

[Gregorian]

99. What's with the hypothetical philosophic question?

What lob of a softie question.

Bernie, if you had two children in each arm, and you're walking across red hot coals, which child...

[bettyellen]

113. So many strange questions. Beyonce? Reconciliation? WHO IS YOUR SCALIA?!?!?!?!? WHUT?

[nolabear]

100. Poet Laureate question! As a former city poet laureate nolabear approves.

[Gregorian]

103. Yeah, but...

OK.

[nolabear]

105. Poet Lives Matter.

[bettyellen]

109. *places a laurel on your head*

I had NO idea. WOW.

[nolabear]

124. LOL, yeah, I was actually PAID to write and advocate for poetry. America lives!!

[bettyellen]

126. And I was already proud to know you! HA! Awesome!

[nolabear]

129. ...

[bettyellen]

131. Is it the customary two year term?

[Gregorian]

111. I come away with - she's a polished product, and Bernie is a genuine article.

[bettyellen]

128. I came away with they were both a little subdued and pivoting hard before answering....

they both seemed a little winded. Probably allergy season down there already. They need some claratin.

[senz]

112. She has been coached on the questions. Smoother than she's ever been.

[bettyellen]

114. thanks for visiting! Now onto The People vs OJ Simpson !!!

[senz]

133. Wow.

Nice to see you drop the "impartial" pretense.

[bettyellen]

135. Huh? You had been sort of pleasant here, so I was trying to be cordial. Whut?

[bettyellen]

116. Not some of those weird ass questions, LOL.

[brooklynite]

117. From the same people who brought you: "the coin flip was rigged"!

[bettyellen]

121. Tonight they said "Bernie chose to go first again" on the show.So that is that. More viewers- right?

Everyone switched to the People vs OJ Simpson at 9 pm.

[nc4bo]

119. If it were me, I'd have taken a couple Xanax. That'd smooth me riiiiiight out.

Even, steady and smooth as silk

Just sayin'!

With that, I hope voters had their questions for both candidates answered to their satisfaction.

[bettyellen]

120. I would have to! I think they both made a huge effort to be softer tonight. Last one was too high

pitched. This was a little mellower. Next one should be... just right!

[DisgustedTX]

122. Lost me at the Super Bowl halftime stupidity

Both candidates showed well tonight until I tuned out. Never count out the abject idiocy of the American public at large.

"Mrs. Clinton: I walked around my neighborhood tonight without pants and people looked at me differently. I feel like a victim!"

Please.

[bettyellen]

125. THANKS EVERYONE FOR DROPPING BY AND BEING PRETTY AWESOME!!