2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI won't do it unless everyone else does it first? Wow she actually said that?
What kind of leadership quality does that show? Hillary is not a leader she is a typical 3rd rate slimeball lawyer who would be defending small time two-bit crooks in downtown Detroit if it wasn't for her husbands coat tails.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...this is part of her record and something that she apparently, vehemently, does not want to release. It raises questions and voters need to know who they're voting for. Sander's released his, now it's her turn (sound familiar?).
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)with. And she is right to speak up for herself about it. That said, I think she will release when she feels it will provide the best boost.
She is amazing in those small group talks, and it will get her a lot of good publicity.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)gyroscope
(1,443 posts)she is not running against the republicans. She said she would release them after Sanders did.
Sanders released his transcripts why doesn't Clinton do the same?
Because she's a typical lying slimebag lawyer that gives lawyers a bad name.
dsc
(52,162 posts)She has repeatedly stated she would release hers only when all the candidates released theirs and frankly I get her position on one level.
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)why can't she do the same? what does she have to hide?
dsc
(52,162 posts)that is exactly what this is.
ram2008
(1,238 posts)Wall Street donors are a major campaign issue for Democrats.
She claims to be a champion for the American people but has also given multi-hundred thousand dollar speeches to bank. Clear conflict of interest.
How do you resolve that conflict of interest? By showing people where you stand by releasing what you actually said to them-- you know, showing the record.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)before running for president.
A man should be expected to adhere to the same standard.
And if there was nothing to hide in the speeches, why not just release them? If they were innocuous she could made it all go away by simply putting them out there when it was raised. She couold have had the added advantage of embarassing Bernie iof she did.
But noooooooooo...
Has nothing to do with gender.
Trump this time, and Guiliani in 2008 both ran after making such speeches and I have heard 0, count them 0, people ask for them to release theirs. Kasich literally worked for Lehman, while Cruz' wife worked for Citibank, and yet again, we haven't seen anything about their financials given over.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)He is so blatant and is covered by Teflon that NO one can match (so far anyway).
Same with Guilliani....Who never went far enough in the primaries to worry about it anyway.
Hillary is a Democrat, and she is a frontrunner in a race where ties to Big Bidness is an issue. And she claims to be better than them. This is an easy thing to defuse if there's no "there" there in the transcripts.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)That's a sign.
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)ladies and gentleman we have just entered the Twilight Zone of Hillarity World
arcane1
(38,613 posts)You're not at all curious?
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)the transcripts, because everyone knows that the
repugs won't. Funny in a way, because right now
we are in a primary, not a GE. It had to be expected though.
BTW, did everyone notice that she came back to
"I will try", I want to do this", the "we" is gone again.
dragonfly301
(399 posts)However if the dem nominee is repeatedly getting paid $$$$$ by wall st and health care/big pharma firms, I sure as hell would like to know if what she's telling them, matches what she's telling the voters. This has nothing to do with double standards and as a woman, I find it offensive that some are using that as an excuse for not releasing. If there's nothing to hide - hide nothing.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)Clinton is being held to a higher standards than every other candidate.
She told them to go pound sand.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...there are two candidates. One already released theirs, the other hasn't. No bias there...
Tarc
(10,476 posts)It's only an issue for Camp Sanders, not an issue for the rest, i.e. the majority of voters. She gains nothing by releasing anything now.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...she'd absolutely need to vote for her in the GE to have any chance of winning? The people who rate honesty and integrity near the top of their priority list?
She's not doing herself any favors by holding them back. You can continue to give 0 fucks if you like...but just remember you will need that camp later on.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)democratic candidate. and she evades this just
during a PRIMARY!
I cannot find that leadership, I call it the act of
a coward.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)And bear in mind they were the hosts. Knives are being sharpened for the meal her statement presents.
nolabear
(41,986 posts)Imagine what he'd have to cough up.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)He's said all sorts of crazy and offensive shit. He's not going to care if people know what he's said to Wall Street.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)She was able to duck FOIA requests for over 2 years. This refusal to be transparent w/ the American people is business as usual for her and a harbinger of how she'd conduct herself as president. Voters beware.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)Force whoever the GOP nominee is to release every damn paid anything they did for lobbyist and if it's trump, he says he bought politicians, let's see who he handed money to.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)So Clintonian!