2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWho said it: Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump?
1. Now that weve said these people are no longer deadbeatstheyre actually out there being productivehow do we keep them there?
2. Ive advocated tying the welfare payment to certain behavior about being a good parent. You couldnt get your welfare check if your child wasnt immunized. You couldnt get your welfare check if you didnt participate in a parenting program. You couldnt get your check if you didnt show up for student-teacher conferences.
3. I want the Iranians to know that if Im the president, we will attack Iran
In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them.
4. Every nation has to either be with us, or against us. Those who harbor terrorists, or who finance them, are going to pay a price.
5. We should have never been in Iraq. We have destabilized the Middle East.
6. Im supporting an effort to increase the end strength of the Army, increase the size of the military
It is expensive, but I dont think we have any alternatives.
7. I am, you know, adamantly against illegal immigrants
People have to stop employing illegal immigrants.
8. Our people are our greatest asset. We must take care of our own. We must have universal healthcare.
9. Health emergencies cant wait for us to have some theoretical debate about some better idea that will never, ever come to pass.
10. We need more police, we need more and tougher prison sentences for repeat offenders.
I'll post the results in the comments, but it would be fun if a few people guessed. I know that it will be tempting to google the answers, but why not just make a guess and have a bit of fun?
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)scroll down for the answers
This little quiz came from here:
http://usuncut.com/politics/who-said-it-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/
1. Hillary Clinton, in a April 2002 interview with the Gettysburg Times.
2. Hillary Clinton, February 3, 1997, Unique Voice, p. 200
3. Hillary Clinton, April 2008, Good Morning America
4. Hillary Clinton, September 13, 2001, CBS Evening News
5. Donald Trump, Republican presidential debate, February 2016
6. Hillary Clinton, May 23, 2004, on Fox News Sunday
7. Hillary Clinton, 2003, WABC Radio
8. Donald Trump, July 2, 2000, The America We Deserve
9. Hillary Clinton, January 30, 2016, campaign rally
10. Hillary Clinton, August 10, 1994, Unique Voice, pp. 189-190, Remarks at Annual Women in Policing
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)All but the two "good" ones are Clinton. Selective, obviously, but telling.
Lodestar
(2,388 posts)pkdu
(3,977 posts)EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)I posted the answers along with the questions...
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)but you got yours so you can survive a Trump presidency.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)They are served will by things how they are. They may be able to weather a republican or 3rd way pres.
The rest of us are fighting for our lives.
Fairgo
(1,571 posts)Maybe if you specified which version of Hillary it would be easier
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)lol
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)10. Clinton
ETA: 80%
Where's my prize?
WHAT'S my prize?
mdbl
(4,973 posts)The Donald Trump question was worth 50% of the test and you got it wrong.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)EmperorHasNoClothes
(4,797 posts)erlewyne
(1,115 posts)It was a tough quiz and I split answers 50/50.
This is hypothetical nonsense.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Free yourself from such petty concerns!
sorechasm
(631 posts)Or was that the Pre-Revolving phase? I'm not sure.
How many candidates treat fellow democrats with affectionate terms like 'deadbeats', and demand 'certain behavior' before they deserve support? How many are anxious to 'obliterate' Iran? I don't think even Ted Cruz has been this inflamatory.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)ALERTER'S COMMENTS
Comparing Hillary to Trump like this is going too far and has no place on a Democratic message board.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:12 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I suspect the alerter is angry that the quotes could have been said by either. Rather than the comparison being "too far" - I think the objection is that it hits too close.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Trump actually could fit in pretty well with some Dems on the RW of the party. I'm pretty sure half of his 'over the top' positions are just pandering to idiots for votes, and he doesn't give a crap about them. Compare away.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This silliness has to stop.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Quoting Hillary and quoting Trump in the same post is not disruptive, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. Embarrassing for sure, but not out of line.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Statements are not supported.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: These are her quotes. She said them. I don't see a problem.
noamnety
(20,234 posts)If I posted one of her quotes without quote marks - as if it were just me stating my own opinion, I bet I'd get alerted on and get more votes to hide.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)It's equal parts depressing and disturbing how badly the Clintonites want DU to be an echo chamber... every try I go look at one of the Hillary Clinton group threads I am pretty shocked at how out of touch it is with reality... like the one today which was describing her "crackerjack" campaign team... in what reality is that at thing?
Locrian
(4,522 posts)Alerting on a post that is based on quotes from the person in question. With reason is that it's wrong for YOU to post the (truth) comparison. Nothing about the content - just that it doesn't "respect" the candidate.
THAT in a nutshell is what's wrong: shoot the messenger. Bury the evidence. Truth doesn't matter....
You must respect her AUTHORI-TAY!
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)came from Trump.
All of the ones you wish HE'd said came from her.
Although I don't agree with the alert or the single vote to hide, I do feel providing links to the sources of each quote would be a good idea, possibly in a comment.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)if you follow the link in my answers there's links to every quote there.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)That's what a Trump ad will look like against Clinton... one of the many reasons she'll lose.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)She'll be toast.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)You'll be praying for her to win.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)Every day that passes more and more people on the left are rejecting Hillary, saying they'll stay home or vote third party.
There's no progressive running in a Trump v Hillary contest. There's an insider (with endless baggage and distrust) and an outsider with a PROVEN record of crushing establishment politicians. Ted Cruz can't even win the evangelical vote against Trump.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)What else is new? When Bernie tells you you're nuts to stay home in November, you'll feel better about doing the obvious thing.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)I don't support interventionist warmongers.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)the Wealthy 1%. You may feel warm and cozy living under their rule but many of us don't and we are going to fight to the end.
Vinca
(50,278 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
nationalize the fed
(2,169 posts)superb and deeply disturbing
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)as if the persons in question are sub-human