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here's the direct link to the new Reuters Poll that puts Sanders up by 6.2 (Original Post) berniepdx420 Feb 2016 OP
Thank You For Sharing This Wonderful News cantbeserious Feb 2016 #1
Did you actually click the link? rjsquirrel Feb 2016 #15
What's the date? demwing Feb 2016 #22
Did you actually click the link and look at it? cannondale Feb 2016 #24
Bernie 41.7%, Hillary 35.5%. What are you looking at, a squirrel? n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #26
And here's the same poll among likely Democratic primary voters Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #2
I don't think you've heard.. this is an anti establishment election on both sides.. berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #4
So you say rjsquirrel Feb 2016 #8
you are voting for Hillary... why ? berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #9
How do you know whom I plan to vote for? rjsquirrel Feb 2016 #10
ok mr squirrel.. take it easy..bye berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #11
I'm voting for Bernie Sanders erlewyne Feb 2016 #20
I don't think so. People are profoundly angry at the status quo. PatrickforO Feb 2016 #36
I think I may have heard that... Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #16
I'll bite...you poll likely democrats, you are polling 40% of the electoriate Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #6
No, this is simply a matter of who will most likely Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #13
40%? Being very generous aren't we this morning. More like 29%. A Simple Game Feb 2016 #18
They are called Independents or RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #19
Thank you for that. Approximately another 6 weeks and Mrs. Clinton will be below President Sanders, jtuck004 Feb 2016 #32
Just like pubbies... mariawr Feb 2016 #3
Momentum .... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #5
The top line at your link rjsquirrel Feb 2016 #7
Lmfao vdogg Feb 2016 #12
Socialist math rjsquirrel Feb 2016 #14
Oops. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #21
In the HuffPo rolling numbers, the gap is still in Hillary's favor by 6.9% Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #17
Yup! kenfrequed Feb 2016 #23
Should we just disenfranchise democratic voters in a red state? Agschmid Feb 2016 #25
I am actually asking the question. kenfrequed Feb 2016 #27
Based on this election so far I think we don't know what's blue or red anymore. Agschmid Feb 2016 #29
No to winner take all. kenfrequed Feb 2016 #38
That link has HRC up. giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #28
Only if you are looking FlaGranny Feb 2016 #30
The far right side of the link is Feb. 23. madfloridian Feb 2016 #31
Good to see. LWolf Feb 2016 #33
can u say,, Cryptoad Feb 2016 #34
As Sanders folks used to love to tell us... brooklynite Feb 2016 #35
Haven't you heard . . . . pdsimdars Feb 2016 #37
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #39
K&R TheFarS1de Feb 2016 #40
 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
15. Did you actually click the link?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:24 AM
Feb 2016

Mine shows Clinton up by a point and a half!

Socialist glasses see strange things.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
22. What's the date?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:07 AM
Feb 2016

It's a Rolling poll, Clinton was up by 1.5% on the 13th, not the 23rd.

Maybe your glasses need a new prescription?

cannondale

(96 posts)
24. Did you actually click the link and look at it?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:13 AM
Feb 2016

I looked at it. Not sure what date you picked to get Clinton up 1-½ points.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
8. So you say
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:10 AM
Feb 2016

Except primary voters tend to be party members, and you can't run in the general if you don't win the primary. See?

Also "anti establishment" gets us Trump. Maybe "establishment" will look like a better alternative.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
10. How do you know whom I plan to vote for?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:13 AM
Feb 2016

Lol

But why? Because I worry tha Bernie's supporters are all like you and there aren't enough of you, pdx420 and all.

PatrickforO

(14,576 posts)
36. I don't think so. People are profoundly angry at the status quo.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:34 AM
Feb 2016

I for instance, am fed up to the point of puking with my shitty, rationed healthcare. The HMO my employer provides (at a whopping 18.5% of my gross) cares more about cutting costs than caring for me and my wife.

I'm also boiling mad about all these corporations that are taking advantage of loopholes in the tax code that allow them to NOT PAY TAXES on billions in profits. I HATE that there's over $2 trillion salted away overseas that has heretofore gone untaxed.

What makes me so mad about this is that Republicans just keep on going, like the ever ready bunny:

-privatize or cut social security
-cut medicare
-cut safety net programs
-cut education

And the Democrats HAVE BEEN LETTING THEM DO IT. I have NO trust that Clinton will save my Social Security let alone expanding it. It makes me sick that three of my four kids are still paying on student loans - when I was young education at a state school was very affordable. Sure I had to work, but when I graduated I wasn't crippled with debt.

Then the telecomms want to take away net neutrality because Congress is too gutless to say the internet belongs to the public.

When I was a kid, TV was free and the telephone cost maybe $15/month. Now I'm paying nearly $400 per month for cable, high speed internet, land lines and my cell phones.

We are getting nickel and dimed to death. I hate it when I go to the store and pick up a jar of peanut butter. Oh, it looks the same size but there's a big concavity in the bottom so they can put in less product and charge the same price. Yogurt? Look at those shitty foil lids. Sure, they are cheaper to manufacture, but it pisses me off when I get home and notice one of them has come unsealed.

The game's rigged, and I don't like the neoliberal capitalist model because it isn't sustainable, and I hate the neoconservative model because it promotes forever war and American empire. Clinton is a neocon and probably a neolib. She's socially liberal but my issues are economic.

So I won't be voting for the establishment candidate.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
16. I think I may have heard that...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:27 AM
Feb 2016

once or twice...per day. But thanks for the condescension. I love it with my morning coffee.


By all means, pull in those unlikely voters, and then Bernie could win. I'll support him in the general if that's the case. I'll even canvass for him, and put a Bernie sticker on my car bumper to annoy my Republican neighbors (right now I have a Hillary sticker there, of course, which definitely annoys them to no end).

But right now the math shows that not too many unlikely voters show up, and the likely voters lean Clinton. In which case I hope we will all unite behind her to kick Republicans' butts in November. I hope so, because I really like my Hillary sticker.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
6. I'll bite...you poll likely democrats, you are polling 40% of the electoriate
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:02 AM
Feb 2016

Can you win an election 60-40?

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
13. No, this is simply a matter of who will most likely
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:19 AM
Feb 2016

show up to vote for the nominee.

If you Bernie folks can pull in enough voters from among those who are not-likely voters, more power to you. Then your guy wins, and we all unite behind him to kick GOP butt in November. It's as simple as that. But if you don't, then it seems likely that the people who are likely voters will go for Clinton. And I hope in that case we united behind her and kick GOP butt in November.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
18. 40%? Being very generous aren't we this morning. More like 29%.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:44 AM
Feb 2016

That's the problem with Hillary supporters they think they have an insurmountable majority. Nothing could be further from the truth.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
32. Thank you for that. Approximately another 6 weeks and Mrs. Clinton will be below President Sanders,
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:55 AM
Feb 2016

based on that trend.

mariawr

(348 posts)
3. Just like pubbies...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 07:56 AM
Feb 2016

If the race is close, Clinton wins. Thumb on scale and such.
He's got to flat out beat her...but this is encouraging. Just waiting to get past Super Tuesday.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
14. Socialist math
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:22 AM
Feb 2016

All numbers are equal except Bernie's, where being behind by a point and change equals being ahead by 6.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
17. In the HuffPo rolling numbers, the gap is still in Hillary's favor by 6.9%
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 08:28 AM
Feb 2016

The smallest it's been so far, even if the poll they added most recently swings back to Hill.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
23. Yup!
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:10 AM
Feb 2016

But apparently to Hillary supporters only South Carolina matters, which is a state that hasn't delivered electoral votes to a Democrat since Jimmy Carter.

The "First in the south" also has a reputation for being the state where the dirtiest campaigns are conducted.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
27. I am actually asking the question.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:22 AM
Feb 2016

Should voters in a lot of blue states suddenly not matter because a red state gets to vote early?

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
29. Based on this election so far I think we don't know what's blue or red anymore.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:36 AM
Feb 2016

That being said I do believe the primary system should be changed...

- No caucuses.
- Winner take all.
- Regional or National primaries.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
38. No to winner take all.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:53 PM
Feb 2016

All states should be required to give their delegates proportionately.

I think we should do away with superdelegates.

FlaGranny

(8,361 posts)
30. Only if you are looking
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:38 AM
Feb 2016

at the wrong date. Feb 23 - Sanders 41.7, Clinton 35.5. Look again and make sure your cursor is on the right date.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
31. The far right side of the link is Feb. 23.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 09:46 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie is up by about 6% on the 23rd. Today is not listed yet. If you hover your mouse more to the left it changes.

brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
35. As Sanders folks used to love to tell us...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:26 AM
Feb 2016

...(in addition to the fact that polls are "corporate" and not to be trusted)

"National polls are meaningless...this is a State by State nomination."



 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
37. Haven't you heard . . . .
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:54 AM
Feb 2016

They keep saying that these polls mean nothing. . . .yea, month after month they keep getting the same results and they mean nothing. . . the only thing that means anything is what the pundits think. They've been so right so far . . not.
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