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What were you doing in the early 1960's? (Original Post) Major Nikon Feb 2016 OP
All teen-age girls who volunteer for their families party preference years before they can vote... onehandle Feb 2016 #1
Apparently leftofcool Feb 2016 #3
Not all. BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #28
"She was a Democrat before her teens were even over. " noamnety Feb 2016 #41
"But, but, but he never did anything......" TheCowsCameHome Feb 2016 #2
What has he done for AA's in the last 30 years? leftofcool Feb 2016 #4
I just knew it. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2016 #18
Like most of the party and the country, I wasn't born yet Recursion Feb 2016 #5
When all you have is a bat the whole world looks like a pinyata./nt DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #7
Truer words, DSB... Recursion Feb 2016 #13
Lord, save us from the monotony of repetitious memes./nt DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #21
OK. 1/2 of Clinton’s 2014 Speaking Fees Came From Groups Also Lobbying Congress kristopher Feb 2016 #12
I think I'm voting for Sanders in the absence of a miraculous O'Malley comeback Recursion Feb 2016 #16
Santayana: panader0 Feb 2016 #58
Yup. Agschmid Feb 2016 #60
So it's "I was doing this since day 1" vs "I had the courage to change" Tarc Feb 2016 #6
A pattern emerges pdsimdars Feb 2016 #33
Yes, a pattern called "progress" Tarc Feb 2016 #44
We need somebody born in the 60's not somebody getting their first piece LOL snooper2 Feb 2016 #8
Technically Sanders is not a Boomer as he was born livetohike Feb 2016 #19
Great worse than I thought LOL snooper2 Feb 2016 #23
I know. I wish we had some younger candidates who livetohike Feb 2016 #26
You have a specific problem with older Americans like Bernie? Trajan Feb 2016 #52
no, just ones that want to be president...Obama came in fresh and in tune with people snooper2 Feb 2016 #53
Well .. that response says a lot about who you are as a person Trajan Feb 2016 #55
mkay snooper2 Feb 2016 #56
Have a hard time taking anyone in white shoes and pants seriously. The police are being rather nice Hoyt Feb 2016 #9
Was it after Labor Day?!?! panader0 Feb 2016 #57
LOL. I'll have to check, that would disqualify him under the Constitution. Hoyt Feb 2016 #61
unbroken chain UglyGreed Feb 2016 #10
I have never noticed that chain before. My respect for Bernie just went up even more. jillan Feb 2016 #39
.. Downwinder Feb 2016 #11
Silly. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #14
What were you doing in the 1980s? brooklynite Feb 2016 #15
Exactly. Bears repeating. n/t livetohike Feb 2016 #20
deflection UglyGreed Feb 2016 #24
Actually, I wish she was running. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2016 #27
pathetic . . . dessparation is setting in DrDan Feb 2016 #17
Which side are you on.... kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #22
I wasn't even a twinkle in my mom's eye in the 1960's JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #25
What were YOU doing? BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #29
Puttinng in my 4 years in the marines. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #30
Educate yourselves about what Hillary was up to in the 60s instead of smearing her. Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #31
This does not contradict the OP. Orsino Feb 2016 #36
As a Democrat since birth I appreciate conversions DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #42
Well, I'm sorry Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #49
Nuance is precisely my point. n/t Orsino Feb 2016 #50
Working part time while attending high school. In_The_Wind Feb 2016 #32
It MATTERS pdsimdars Feb 2016 #34
I wasn't alive. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #35
Not born yet (nt) bigwillq Feb 2016 #37
This really gets old nevergiveup Feb 2016 #38
Having kids. virgogal Feb 2016 #40
better header for OP 6chars Feb 2016 #43
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #45
Bravo jehop61 Feb 2016 #46
Sounds like you were doing the same thing that many of us were doing. unapatriciated Feb 2016 #51
Yes, something else. You forgot blaming child rape victims for their own rape Major Nikon Feb 2016 #47
Grade school and high school for the first seven years. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2016 #48
In the USN, waiting for Vietnam to start! dmosh42 Feb 2016 #54
I wasn't born. Agschmid Feb 2016 #59

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
1. All teen-age girls who volunteer for their families party preference years before they can vote...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:03 PM
Feb 2016

Are EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!

Right?

She was a Democrat before her teens were even over.

Unlike Elizabeth Warren, who was a Republican into her 40s and Bernie Sanders who has been a 'Democrat' for about five minutes, and will not say if he will remain one.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
41. "She was a Democrat before her teens were even over. "
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:04 PM
Feb 2016

And yet she was still volunteering for a republican and attended their convention at age 20.

"She might have been the only 20-year-old in America who worked on the antiwar presidential campaign of Senator Eugene McCarthy in New Hampshire that winter and for the hawkish Republican congressman Melvin Laird in Washington that summer."

She got an early start on the weather vane. I'll give her that.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. Like most of the party and the country, I wasn't born yet
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:05 PM
Feb 2016

Christ this is depressing. The last thing the party needs to do is re-litigate the 60s. People absolutely have to let that decade go

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
12. OK. 1/2 of Clinton’s 2014 Speaking Fees Came From Groups Also Lobbying Congress
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:12 PM
Feb 2016

Let's talk about this:

1/2 of Clinton’s $10M in 2014 Speaking Fees Came From Groups Also Lobbying Congress
http://time.com/3889577/hillary-clinton-paid-speeches-lobbyists-influence/

She was already running for President in 2014.

I think this is a disqualifying act for any candidate, what do you think?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
16. I think I'm voting for Sanders in the absence of a miraculous O'Malley comeback
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:13 PM
Feb 2016

But I'm certainly not happy about it, and he's only marginally the lesser of two evils.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
58. Santayana:
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:32 PM
Feb 2016

Philosopher, essayist, poet, and novelist George Santayana is known to be the originator of the quote: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
6. So it's "I was doing this since day 1" vs "I had the courage to change"
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:06 PM
Feb 2016

Both arrived in the same place, so really this type of argument is a wash, as it is for most voters. Campaigning on what a woman did as a teenager in ~1965 is beyond desperation time.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
33. A pattern emerges
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:45 PM
Feb 2016

She is always on the wrong side of issues when it matters and when the political winds shift, all of a sudden, she "evolves".
And Bernie is always on the right side of the issues.
It's all on videos.
You think it's just some kind of "luck" that she is always wrong?
 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
8. We need somebody born in the 60's not somebody getting their first piece LOL
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:08 PM
Feb 2016

Sadly we are stuck with aging boomers running for President...

Hopefully this will be the last cycle

livetohike

(22,145 posts)
19. Technically Sanders is not a Boomer as he was born
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:15 PM
Feb 2016

before WWII and the boomer years of birth are 1946-1964. So obviously he is not of the boomer generation.

livetohike

(22,145 posts)
26. I know. I wish we had some younger candidates who
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:35 PM
Feb 2016

could step up. It will be interesting to see the VP candidate list

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
52. You have a specific problem with older Americans like Bernie?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:03 PM
Feb 2016

Isn't that known as Ageism?

I can't say I've seen such a blatant example from a supporter ....

Hmmm

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
53. no, just ones that want to be president...Obama came in fresh and in tune with people
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:05 PM
Feb 2016

We don't need lifers doing their one final stint as President when they should be enjoying the beach.

Probably will end up voting for Bernie here in Texas though- He is the only one that has a chance at beating trump.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
55. Well .. that response says a lot about who you are as a person
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:14 PM
Feb 2016

I'd almost prefer you didn't vote for Bernie ... I'm ashamed that we might vote for the same person ...

In the meantime ... Goodbye ...

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
9. Have a hard time taking anyone in white shoes and pants seriously. The police are being rather nice
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:08 PM
Feb 2016

to him.



Now here's a protest, and the man narrating it has endorsed Hillary Clinton:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/06/politics/selma-50-years-john-lewis-bridge-anniversary/#

jillan

(39,451 posts)
39. I have never noticed that chain before. My respect for Bernie just went up even more.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:02 PM
Feb 2016

Thanks so much for posting that.

brooklynite

(94,592 posts)
15. What were you doing in the 1980s?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:12 PM
Feb 2016


Liberal favorite Elizabeth Warren admits she was a Republican

Elizabeth Warren, a favorite of the left, admitted that she was once a Republican.

In an interview with The Daily Beast released on Tuesday, Warren, 62, who recently began a bid to unseat Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.) admitted that up into her early 40s she was a Republican.

"I was a Republican because I thought that those were the people who best supported markets. I think that is not true anymore," Warren said. "I was a Republican at a time when I felt like there was a problem that the markets were under a lot more strain. It worried me whether or not the government played too activist a role."

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/189657--liberal-favorite-elizabeth-warren-admits-she-was-a-republican


Apparently some early history can't be forgiven...

kgnu_fan

(3,021 posts)
22. Which side are you on....
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:19 PM
Feb 2016

Which Side Are You On? Natalie Merchant


Which Side Are You On Florence Reece Original

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
25. I wasn't even a twinkle in my mom's eye in the 1960's
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:35 PM
Feb 2016

But my dad was behaving in a way that when I turned 15 or there about - he told me he was being punished by having a good looking daughter!

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
29. What were YOU doing?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:37 PM
Feb 2016

In 1964, I joined the Peace Corps.

I also support Hillary Clinton, so that must mean that anything I have ever done in my life is EVIL.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
30. Puttinng in my 4 years in the marines.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:41 PM
Feb 2016

And, in the process becoming more of a socialist and anti-militarist.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
36. This does not contradict the OP.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:55 PM
Feb 2016

Clinton's onetime love for mean, stupid Goldwaterism should be considered in context with her conversion to liberalism and, eventually, neoliberalism.

But rather than dwelling on particular phases of her career, our takeaway from the OP ought to focus on the consistent activism of her opponent on behalf of the victims of conservatism.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
42. As a Democrat since birth I appreciate conversions
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:05 PM
Feb 2016
I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

Luke 15 : 7

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
49. Well, I'm sorry
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:30 PM
Feb 2016

that you don't do nuance.

Because that's often where the truth lies, and not in cheap shots like the OP.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
34. It MATTERS
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:47 PM
Feb 2016

Where you took your stand tells about your character, who you are. If you always seem to be on the right side of the issues from day one, it MEANS something.
And if you always seem to be on the wrong side of issues, until the political winds change and then you "evolve". . that says something else about your character.

nevergiveup

(4,762 posts)
38. This really gets old
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:56 PM
Feb 2016

In 1964 my first presidential vote was for Barry Goldwater. My parents and family were Eisenhower Republicans. I have not voted for a Republican for president since and I have not missed an election. At the moment I am on the fence but leaning a little towards voting for Bernie in the primary but will support Hillary if she wins the nomination. I would be more pro-Bernie if someone could convince me he is not politically in a general election another George McGovern. Been there, done that and don't want to go through it again.

I consider myself fairly far left and I feel this post is old and tired, silly and counter productive.

Response to Major Nikon (Original post)

jehop61

(1,735 posts)
46. Bravo
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:56 PM
Feb 2016

You had the courage to post what I was thinking. Bernie spent some very productive years playing hippie. I myself was having babies and helping hubby get an education.

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
51. Sounds like you were doing the same thing that many of us were doing.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:02 PM
Feb 2016

Unfortunately a lot of our hubbies left us in poverty raising our babies. They enjoyed the benefits of the education we paid for with a younger, childless woman.

I should have dropped acid instead.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
47. Yes, something else. You forgot blaming child rape victims for their own rape
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:00 PM
Feb 2016
Hillary Clinton is known as a champion of women and girls, but one woman who says she was raped as a 12-year-old in Arkansas doesn’t think Hillary deserves that honor. This woman says Hillary smeared her and used dishonest tactics to successfully get her attacker off with a light sentence—even though, she claims, Clinton knew he was guilty.

The victim in the 1975 sexual abuse case that became Clinton’s first criminal defense case as a 27-year-old lawyer has only spoken to the media once since her attack, a contested, short interaction with a reporter in 2008, during Clinton’s last presidential campaign run. Now 52, she wants to speak out after hearing Clinton talk about her case on newly discovered audio recordings from the 1980s, unearthed by the Washington Free Beacon and made public this week.

In a long, emotional interview with The Daily Beast, she accused Clinton of intentionally lying about her in court documents, going to extraordinary lengths to discredit evidence of the rape, and later callously acknowledging and laughing about her attackers’ guilt on the recordings.

“Hillary Clinton took me through Hell,” the victim said. The Daily Beast agreed to withhold her name out of concern for her privacy as a victim of sexual assault.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/20/exclusive-hillary-clinton-took-me-through-hell-rape-victim-says.html

greatauntoftriplets

(175,742 posts)
48. Grade school and high school for the first seven years.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:28 PM
Feb 2016

Then attended college full time while working part time for the rest.

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