Breaking on MSNBC... Federal Judge orders Hillary's top aides to testify in Top Secret Email misuse

[berniepdx420]

scandal

[virtualobserver]

1. We just got in the Hot Tub time machine and traveled back to the 1990's

Don't let Bill into the hot tub.

[dorkzilla]

120. Is there cocaine involved?

Never mind, that was the 80's. I was SO SKINNY back then

[RDANGELO]

2. This is where this scandal starts hurting Hillary the way the bridge hurt Christy.

If She did anything illegal, her subordinates are not likely willing to go to jail for her, and their stories will come out.

[Matariki]

5. The bridge really didn't hurt Christy

Did it?

[rhett o rick]

9. Something did. He was thought to be a challenger. nm

[Matariki]

12. Could be right

I think he's kind of disliked - Republicans think he's 'too liberal' and Democrats think he's corrupt. 'Bridgegate' probably didn't help, but I suspect he would have done about the same without it.

[aidbo]

41. Chris Christie sealed his fate with the republican electorate..

..when after hurricane Sandy he shook hands with our Democratic president. The R electorate and bloviating heads saw that as a grave offense that they never forgot.

[JDPriestly]

47. No. It wasn't any one thing, especially not that.

Face it. Christie comes across as a loudmouthed bully. He has a horrible, horrible personality. And that matters a lot to voters.

Maybe he is seen as normal in New Jersey, but not in the rest of the country. I should think he is viewed as uncouth in the South -- which is the Republican stronghold.

Southerners value manners. In fact, they use manners to the point of viciousness sometimes.

Christie would not get along in most of the country.

Obama on the other hand has the best personality, is kind and mild and gentle but strong, of any president in my lifetime. Carter is a close second. When it comes to personality, Obama is a huge winner. Helped a lot to get him elected.

[JimDandy]

52. Good assessment.

[Jopin Klobe]

61. "Christie comes across as a loudmouthed bully." ...

... "comes across as"???? ...

... his picture's the example in the Merriam-Webster Dictionary's DEFINITION of "loudmouthed bully" ...

[Kittycat]

91. Irony!

Too liberal and a loud mouth bully, but they picked Trump. He even threw their precious Bush under the bus, lol.

[aidbo]

105. Well, it's a silly thing to argue about, whether it was the "hug" or his personallity.

But I will say this; it hurt his image with the right wing commentariat that I read sometimes.

Here's a link from that time to illustrate what I mean:http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/20/us/politics/after-embrace-of-obama-chris-christie-woos-a-wary-gop.html?_r=0

A few days after Hurricane Sandy shattered the shores of New Jersey, Gov. Chris Christie picked up the phone to take on a different kind of recovery work: taming the Republican Party fury over his effusive embrace of President Obama.

On Nov. 3, Mr. Christie called Rupert Murdoch, the influential News Corporation chief and would-be kingmaker, who had warned in a biting post on Twitter that the governor might be responsible for Mr. Obama’s re-election.

And more recently from Time: http://time.com/4207368/chris-christie-barack-obama-hug/

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie talks often of his response to Hurricane Sandy, which devastated his state days before the 2012 Election. But on Wednesday, he told a less-frequently discussed story—at least by him—his appearance with President Obama just days before Mitt Romney’s loss.

“The old, ‘nobody-ever-saw-it-because-it-didn’t-happen hug,’” Christie said at a town hall at the Milford Fire Department. “You hear about this all the time, so let’s talk about it.”

It was an unusual effort by Christie to volunteer a story that to at least some Republicans is deeply unsettling, blaming him for providing Obama with a bipartisan bump. Among Republican primary voters, the supposed hug has always been a far greater vulnerability for Christie than the closing of lanes to the George Washington Bridge by his former aides.

Even Ol' Media Matters for America noticed it at the time:http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/11/09/conservative-media-turn-on-governor-christie-fo/191296

[Cleita]

110. So how are they going to view Trump, another loud mouthed bully?

I'm not being snarky. I really wonder if that will work against him in the south, or if southern conservatives will be willing to overlook that because he appeals to their prejudices?

[tk2kewl]

11. Trump is just Chris Chrtstier than Christie himself

[ghostsinthemachine]

54. A Bucket of Republicans, Chris Christier than ever!

[Gore1FL]

133. Get a bucket of chicken hawks!

They are finger flipping good!

[RDANGELO]

15. He was the top Republican in all of the polls until it took hold. n/t

[Hoppy]

21. Our local N.J. paper covered Christie's campaign. Bridge problem seemed to have little effect on

primary voters.

Christie's strength and popularity came from "straight talking." That worked until Trump did straight talking better.

[Bernblu]

31. Christie is way down in the polls in New Jersey because of bridge gate.

[Hoppy]

34. Not just because of Bridgegate. We got the pension debacle, the cost of his campaign, his helicopter

rides to his kid's Little League game. His $10m. lawyer fees to "prove" he had nothin' to do with Bridgegate. His fuckup with the Ride to the Top education fund that he blamed on the Sec. of Education .. and on and on.

Bridgegate was not focused on by out of state press and other candidates.

[CoffeeCat]

155. I kinda wondered if the establishment Republicans

were taking him down with that scandal.

In my opinion, they've all abused their power and engaged in illegal or scandalous behavior.

It's just a matter of when someone in power wants to pull the trigger and take them down.

Christie was the lauded frontrunner. He had a lot of buzz in 2014, before the race really began.

[stranger81]

24. The GOP base doesn't give a shit about corruption.

At least some of us Democrats still do.

[Warren DeMontague]

94. Yeah it did.

It exposed him as a thug and a bully. Even his own state hates him.

[morningfog]

136. Not at all. Check his most recent polling!

[bvar22]

3. This will be interesting.

Top Aids aren't "ordered" to testify unless there is a smoking gun.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

46. Oh, you tease!

[Fawke Em]

111. Had they been refusing to do so?

If not, then, basically, they've simply been subpoenaed, which, in and of itself, is being "ordered" to testify.

[peacebird]

113. They will likely just plead the fifth, like pharma boy....

[Fawke Em]

115. Unless the play, "Let's Make a Deal."

[peacebird]

118. I hope the judge is willing to play hardball, jailtime if not cooperating.

[Fawke Em]

123. Yep. Pleading the Fifth doesn't let you off the hook.

The prosecution can still prove their case.

[restorefreedom]

4. rut roh. this is getting real. nt

[Uncle Joe]

6. The FBI investigation of Hillary's e-mails and the State Department's subpoena

of the Clinton Foundation could complicate matters for Hillary.

Clinton Foundation received subpoena from State Department investigators

Investigators with the State Department issued a subpoena to the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation last fall seeking documents about the charity’s projects that may have required approval from the federal government during Hillary Clinton’s term as secretary of state, according to people familiar with the subpoena and written correspondence about it.

The subpoena also asked for records related to Huma Abedin, a longtime Clinton aide who for six months in 2012 was employed simultaneously by the State Department, the foundation, Clinton’s personal office, and a private consulting firm with ties to the Clintons.

The full scope and status of the inquiry, conducted by the State Department’s inspector general, were not clear from the material correspondence reviewed by The Washington Post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-foundation-received-subpoena-from-state-department-investigators/2016/02/11/ca5125b2-cce4-11e5-88ff-e2d1b4289c2f_story.html

[Matariki]

19. Interesting. A Haitian friend of mine posted this on FB yesterday

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Hillary’s State Department Pressured Haiti Not To Raise Minimum Wage to $.61 An Hour

In Haiti, people work for peanuts. Slave wages. Less than $5 per day, but they supply the U.S. with tons of affordable clothing from big-name brands like Levi’s, Hanes and Polo. Haiti’s big advantage, compared to Asia, is their proximity to us, and thousands of Haitians are employed in the textile industry in part because of that. When Haiti passed a wage raise from $.24 per hour to $.61 per hour, American companies were predictably outraged.

U.S. companies, especially the clothing manufacturers, outsource their manufacturing to places like Haiti specifically because they can get away with paying slave wages. They would only support a minimum wage increase to $.31 per hour, and decided to get the U.S. Department of State involved to try and pressure Haiti’s government to keep the wage raise down.

This took place in 2011, and Hillary Clinton was the Secretary of State. Our corporations were successful, and Haitians continued to work for worse slave wages than they otherwise would have, all so U.S. corporations could take home higher profits.

At the time, the U.S. Embassy said that the wage increase didn’t take economic realities into account, and that it was a move designed specifically to appeal to the unemployed and underpaid masses of Haiti. Imagine that. Imagine trying to help your people have a better life instead of catering to huge corporations at your people’s expense.

more at link

http://news.groopspeak.com/hillarys-state-department-pressured-haiti-not-to-raise-minimum-wage-to-61-an-hour/

[Uncle Joe]

28. That's grotesque!

[nc4bo]

32. God. No words.

Makes me cry, really it does.

We, as human beings, can do sooo much better than this.

WTF is wrong with people?!! What is wrong with US?! Greed, Greed, GREED!

[Bernblu]

40. Basically, they're slaves to US corporations.

With the TPP and the race to the bottom, American workers will be in the same shackles soon enough.

[Matariki]

43. Yes, exactly.

And about 10 people will own the world unless we stop them.

[Doitnow]

141. You don't have to wear chains to be a slave!!

[JDPriestly]

49. Groopspeak?? What is the original source of that story. It makes me feel ill, but I don't

want to believe it is true, and in fact, I don't.

Please provide the actual source for the story.

[Matariki]

50. I googled when I read it yesterday and found more well known sources

I'm feeling a little lazy right now. You shouldn't have a hard time finding it yourself, but I'll try to post other links later. It is definitely true.

[Matariki]

51. Here you go, took 30 seconds

http://www.businessinsider.com/wikileaks-haiti-minimum-wage-the-nation-2011-6

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/wikileaks-haiti-us-pushed-to-lower-minimum-wage/

http://www.thenation.com/article/wikileaks-haiti-let-them-live-3-day/


A whole list of links at google:

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=active&q=state+department+pressures+haiti+to+not+raise+minimum+wage+

[kas125]

78. OMG, that is truly despicable. I guess that's the kind of thing she was talking about

when she said she "gets things done."

[hifiguy]

86. She left off "for myself and the family, but no one else."

[840high]

122. So disgusting.

[JDPriestly]

169. Right. I cooked supper and then found it.

http://www.businessinsider.com/wikileaks-haiti-minimum-wage-the-nation-2011-6

Horrors! She will never, ever get my vote. I will vote for all the other Democrats on my ballot, but not for Hillary.

She has sold out to multinational corporations and Wall Street.

[Divernan]

56. Thank god Clinton Foundation "facilitated" a $45 million luxury hotel in Haiti

so potential corporate investors cough/boodsuckers looking to take advantage of cheap labor/cough could visit in comfort. Those damned ungrateful, greedy Haitians (do I need a sarcasm emoticon?) expected the Clinton Foundation to direct the "donations" cough/bribes/cough to replace housing destroyed by the earthquake. But that $45 million was used to build a 173 room hotel. That works out to $260,000 per room. Way to go, Clinton Foundation! ! ! Five star all the way for corporate investors & your next glittery gathering in Haiti for photo ops.

Once all of the carnage was assessed, more than 100,000 buildings were damaged or destroyed, hundreds of thousands of people were left without homes and Haiti's government put the death toll at 316,000, according to ABC News.

Five years later, after billions of dollars of aid and donations, many are still living in abject poverty created by the earthquake. NBC News notes that while some $13 billion went to the country, more than "85,000 people still live in crude displacement camps and many more in deplorable conditions."

NBC News does note that while many of the roads destroyed by the earthquake have been repaired and some businesses have been rebuilt, very few people displaced by the massive quake have acquired permanent housing.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2015/01/_5_years_after_massive_earthquake_where_is_haiti_now.html

Two years after a 7.0-magnitude earthquake leveled Haiti's capital, a deal brokered by former President Bill Clinton's charitable foundation will add new lodging for aid workers and other travelers to Port-au-Prince -- in the form of a $45 million hotel.

With only about 500 operable hotel rooms, the city has limited space to house aid workers, potential investors and other visitors, according to a news release Monday by the future hotel's owner and its operator.

Caribbean cell phone provider Digicel will own the hotel, which will have 173 new rooms and create 175 new jobs. Marriott Hotels and Resorts will operate the hotel upon completion in 2014. Construction is set to begin in 2012.

[Divernan]

62. Murky, but Clinton Foundation pays itself for "facilitating", i.e,

they line up funding from corporations and foreign governments, and skim a share off the top for their services. The Clinton Foundations has invested hundreds of its millions with an outfit run by the woman who was a classmate & matron of honor at Chelsea's wedding. That woman's husband is a partner with Chelsea's husband in his Eagle hedgefund. Is some or all of that $250 million parked in that hedgefund? Inquiring minds want to know.

Another flashpoint came in 2013, when the foundation was renamed the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation, an elevation of the Clintons’ daughter that struck some of the old guard as presumptuous and troubling. It was one thing, they grumbled, to add the name of a former first lady who had also been elected a United States senator and was coming off an acclaimed stint as secretary of state—but their kid?

They worried that the family was letting her use the foundation to establish herself as a serious player in her own right. She expanded the foundation mission into new causes—including curbing elephant poaching and ivory harvesting—that seemed peripheral to its core missions of fighting AIDS, climate change and childhood obesity, or Hillary Clinton’s efforts to increase opportunity for women and girls.

And some rolled their eyes when the foundation’s $250 million was invested with a firm called Summit Rock Advisers where Chelsea Clinton’s best friend Nicole Davison Fox is managing director. The two were classmates at Sidwell Friends School and Davison Fox interned in the Clinton White House. She later served as matron of honor in Clinton’s wedding, and her husband was a founding employee of the hedge fund started by Clinton’s husband, Marc Mezvinsky.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/03/clinton-foundation-eric-braverman-115598_Page3.html#ixzz3c6DqGeU1

Getting obscenely wealthy off of human suffering. One pampered well-manicured hand washes the other.

[Divernan]

64. SOS HRC presided over the $300 million failed park's opening in 2012

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/10/a-glittering-industrialparkfallsshortinhaiti.htm
A glittering industrial park in Haiti falls short (headline)
A cornerstone of post-earthquake 'reconstruction', the Caracol park is not living up to its backers' lofty promises (subheadline).

CARACOL, Haiti — The young men playing dominoes in this tin-roofed fishing village used to have high hopes for the industrial park being built up the road. They had heard of the U.S. government's plans to invest hundreds of millions of dollars in a part of Haiti where most people are barely scraping by, and promises from a South Korean garment manufacturer to create tens of thousands of jobs.

But less than a year after Caracol Industrial Park's gala opening — with Bill and Hillary Clinton, Sean Penn, designer Donna Karan and Haiti's current and former presidents among the guests — the feeling these days is disappointment. Hundreds of smallholder farmers were coaxed into giving up more than 600 acres of land for the complex, yet nearly 95 percent of that land remains unused. A much-needed power plant was completed on the site, supplying the town with more electricity than ever, but locals say surges of wastewater have caused floods and spoiled crops.

Most critically, fewer than 1,500 jobs have been created — paying too little, the locals say, and offering no job security. "We thought there was going to be some benefit for us," says Ludwidge Fountain, 34, laying his domino with a satisfying smack. He worked for two months at the park as a guard, taking home about $3.40 a day, until his contract ran out. "Maybe it’s good for some of the people inside the park. Everyone else got nothing."

The industrial park near Caracol is the centerpiece of U.S.-led reconstruction of Haiti after its January 2010 earthquake — even though the northern village was undamaged, sitting more than 100 miles northeast of the epicenter. The State Department has promised the park will create 65,000 jobs, powering an economic revitalization of northern Haiti while reducing overcrowding in the quake-stricken capital (though northern Haiti is at least as seismically active as the south). At the opening, then-Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton called it "a new day for Haiti and a new model for how the international community practices development."

[Divernan]

67. Way to go, Brownie! Oops, I mean SOS Clinton

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Bad enough, her goal was to exploit a natural disaster to provide cheap labor for her corporate buddies; but she couldn't even do that right. But she did deliver some valuable quid pro quos to her Arkansas based backer, Walmart.

Yet in a larger sense, the project is the result of an economic philosophy promoted by Washington for poor and ravaged countries around the world: that setting up a low-paying textile sector to cheaply stock U.S. stores and closets is a first step on the path out of poverty. In fact, it has been the core U.S. economic plan for Haiti since the late 1970s and early 1980s, when the country's economy was under the control of the dictator Jean-Claude "Baby Doc" Duvalier. And still today, it's a plan that — unlike other forms of development aid — the U.S. is generally eager to finance: More than $270 million has been set aside for Caracol by the U.S. Agency for International Development and Inter-American Development Bank.

But despite those high expectations — or maybe because of them — some officials in Washington are as frustrated as the factory's neighbors. Nearly three years after the project was announced, the park still has just one major tenant: Sae-A Trading Co. Ltd., a Seoul-based textile giant that supplies Wal-mart, Gap, Target and others. (The sole other occupant, a Haitian franchisee of Sherwin-Williams Paints, has only a few dozen employees.) Even with another apparel maker expected in the park soon and Sae-A planning to create another 1,400 jobs by year's end, the park is nowhere close to producing the 20,000 jobs its backers have promised over the next few years, much less the 65,000 predicted by the State Department.
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/10/a-glittering-industrialparkfallsshortinhaiti.html

[rpannier]

116. That's Heckuva Job

Donating to the Foundation appears to also get governments much cooler weapons and stuff
Though the number of errors on their reporting makes it difficult to know sometimes


For three years in a row beginning in 2010, the Clinton Foundation reported to the IRS that it received zero in funds from foreign and U.S. governments, a dramatic fall-off from the tens of millions of dollars in foreign government contributions reported in preceding years.

Those entries were errors, according to the foundation: several foreign governments continued to give tens of millions of dollars toward the foundation’s work on climate change and economic development through this three-year period. Those governments were identified on the foundation’s annually updated donor list, along with broad indications of how much each had cumulatively given since they began donating.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/hillary-clinton-faces-new-revelations-about-questionable-donations-to-clinton-foundation/

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/questions-about-foreign-donations-to-clinton-foundation-could-dog-hillarys-campaign/

[Matariki]

66. Most Haitians I know are seriously PO'd w/ the Clinton foundation

Wondering where all that money collected for the earthquake relief went...

[hifiguy]

73. Into the pockets of Friends of Bill and Hillary,

I have little doubt. Little people don't build luxury hotels, ya know.

[libdem4life]

80. Small addition...now the Friends of Bill and Hillary and Chelsea. Her in-laws run in the

same shady and murky financial dealings. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree. It's reported she is selling her 6 1/2 bathroom New York "flat".

[hifiguy]

83. Nice that they got her married into the top of the parasite class -

hedge fund managers - and an Goldman alum at that.

Grifters, the whole family.

[Fawke Em]

114. This is nothing but old-style, Chicago Boys shock doctrine politics.

Basically, you use a horrible situation, make it worse, scare the public into submission and then fleece them for everything the own while they're distracted by their situation.

The Clintons are really nothing but neo-cons.

[Matariki]

142. It saddens me

I used to really like and support them. But the more I learn the more it's looking more and more like there's truth to that statement.

[CoffeeCat]

165. The Clinton's long and storied history with the neocons goes way back

to when Bill Clinton was President. PNAC wrote him a letter in 1998, asking him for war with Iraq. That letter was signed by Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Bolton, Armitage, and most notable, Robert Kagan (founder of the neocon movement).

So, as far back as 1998, Bill and Hillary Clinton both knew that these neocons were salivating for a war with Iraq. Bill Clinton rebuffed their demands.

So, it strikes me as just a little odd--that Hillary Clinton would stand on the Senate floor and so eloquently state the neocon/George Bush talking points about how we absolutely needed to go to war with Iraq. It is chilling to listen to her cheerlead for that war and make the neocon-based, fear mongering case that it just HAD to happen.

She damn well knew that all of those neocons in the Bush Administration, who were rushing us into war--were the same cast of sociopathic neocons who wrote that 1998 letter to her then-President husband and asked him for the same war.

President Clinton denied them. So, they were back again in 2000--in positions of power in the Bush Administration--demanding the same war.

All Hillary Clinton had to do was wave around that 1998 letter and say, "These warmongering bastards tried to sell this war to my husband in this letter. Now they're back again. Maybe this isn't legitimate."

She could have singlehandedly stopped the war. She knew they were lying, warmongering scum.

Robert Kagan was Hillary Clinton's foreign-policy adviser while she was Secretary of State. Yep, the founder of the neocon movement was Hillary's hand-picked adviser. The neocons also listed Iraq, Iran, Syria and Libya as the countries that they want to dominate geopolitically. They do it by destabilizing the country, overthrowing leaders and creating chaos. And just look at what Hillary did when she was SOS (with Robert Kagan by her side) she gave the neocons Libya. The place is a destabilized shit hole. Obama referred to Libya as "Hillary's project." I'll bet.

So yeah--this is a big reason why I could never support her. EVER. And that's just one faction of her corruption. She sickens me.

[arcane1]

58. I'd love to see the defense of THAT.

I won't get my hopes up of it ever happening.

This should be an OP.

[Jarqui]

74. Here's a fix to that link

fix to link

[Matariki]

119. Thanks. Didn't realize it was broken.

Changed it in my post.

[hifiguy]

76. Why am I not surprised by this?

Even a little?

Neoliberal economics at its finest.

[glinda]

79. Is their workforce primarily female? Or mixed with children also?

[peacebird]

117. Disgusting. Hillary is good for women & children??? Hillary is concerned only about Hillary

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

70. Ya think?!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[libdem4life]

81. A little chink in the POC Champion armour? n/t

[Arazi]

97. Oh that's all just bullshit anyway. Cluster bombs, eternal wars in the ME

mass incarceration, welfare policies that have plunged POC into generational poverty etc etc etc

Pffft, none of that matters to our POC champion/chief HRC supporter(s)

BernieBros are mean so yeah, rah rah Hillary

[angrychair]

7. Link yet???

I've been looking and nothing.

[appalachiablue]

37. It was Mark Halperin on MSNBC. I'm pretty sure he said aides Will be asked,

not Could which is all I saw when searching online just now, articles from yesterday and the day before.

Still there should be a new print story now.

[nadinbrzezinski]

150. Here, Reuters

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-idUSMTZSAPEC2N0MQ10D

[nc4bo]

8. Oh-Oh x2 this evening.

WHY oh WHY is she even trying to run and knows that there are skeletons?

IF and I do mean IF she becomes the nominee, there will be nothing but one investigation after another, endless loop until she leaves office.

Fuck this shit. I'm voting for Bernie Sanders.

Ugh

[Fearless]

14. But she had common sense solutions and can get things done!

[nc4bo]

22. ..........

I guess pay-to-play doesn't cover ALL the bases

[Politicalboi]

30. LOL!

Done for herself and family.

[MisterP]

25. she didn't think she'd face any primary challenge: she was The Candidate and could run against

Jeb or Trump for an extra year; the Dems are so well-trained and disciplined into ignoring any scandal because we're afraid the Other Guys will win, so habituated to holding that ol' nose

she could vote for IWR BECAUSE the peaceniks would grumble and vote for her anyway, back coups and Drug Wars and CCA BECAUSE she's "the minority candidate," promote fracking because "the GOP's worse"

[Matariki]

36. And even in the unlikely chance she wins the General Election

It will be non-stop Impeachments and Inquiries, etc, etc. She'll go broke defending herself and NOTHING will get done for the country.

[glinda]

82. But she will have foreign money to help maybe. Dunno what she would have to give in return.

[rpannier]

103. Her silence

[rpannier]

102. She won't go broke

The Foundation will always have it's backers - The Saudi Royal Family, the UAE Royals, Kazakhstan, etc
They'll always be there to lend support and money

[glinda]

172. Seems a tad tacky to ask for any public donations.

[840high]

130. Why? Her obsession with the

White House overrides everything.

[leveymg]

10. Discovery was granted yesterday. That also opens up her 30,000 "private" emails to review.

Those that aren't found to be privileged will become part of the public record. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141357135 That vetting process seems likely to go on at least through November.

Thanks, Hillary and all those who have chosen to ignore, deny or denigrate this issue to this point.

[NWCorona]

48. It's looking like all of the emails on that server will be released

Work and personal.

[Jester Messiah]

13. Is it too early to say...

"Frog-march"...?

[dr60omg]

16. If MSNBC has stated ut .... then ... well you know how they shill for Clinton

If this is true and I just turned on MSNBC it is very important because they do shill for Clinton. It is just one of many horrible things about a Clinton candidacy .... she should have known better as secretary of state of the rules that started in 2005. She should not compare herself to Powell (since he was Secretary before 2005) and she also should not try and pretend it is innocent it has to do with both the public record (the historic record) and national security

[Arazi]

18. I only find this story from yesterday. Do you have an updated link?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-idUSMTZSAPEC2N0MQ10D

A federal judge ruled on Tuesday that U.S. State Department officials and aides to Hillary Clinton should be questioned under oath about whether the former secretary of state's use of a private email system was an effort to skirt open records laws.

The ruling by U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan is likely to add to the uncertainty hovering over Clinton, the front-runner for the Democratic nomination for the November U.S. presidential election, about the legal consequences of her decision to exclusively use a private email server in her New York home for her government work.

The State Department and Judicial Watch, the conservative watchdog group that sought the depositions as it sues for records about the employment of a senior Clinton aide, must agree on a plan for the depositions by April, Sullivan said in his order on Tuesday, according to court documents.

Sullivan, a judge in federal court in Washington, D.C., said there was at least "a reasonable suspicion" that open records laws were undermined, the Washington Post reported. Sullivan, who was appointed by Clinton's husband, former President Bill Clinton, said he may order the department to subpoena Clinton to return all records connected to her private email server, the newspaper reported.

[MaggieD]

20. So fun to see DU high five conservative Judicial Watch

Here's another project they are working on to "expose the corruption of Obama".

http://www.judicialwatch.org/obama-accountability-project/

Do you think they wouldn't do the same if Bernie were president? Seriously.

[nc4bo]

23. It's just a preview of coming events, IF she becomes potus.

I'll pass.

[MaggieD]

26. Here's a list of their recent smear campaigns

Against Democrats. Why in the world would anyone who calls themselves a Democrat be happy about their consistent smears on Democrats?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/the-docket/

[nc4bo]

29. It's just a preview of coming events, if SHE becomes potus.

I'll pass.

[JonLeibowitz]

44. Many of us find no reason to consider her a Democrat.

Party identification is not what it used to be in predicting progressive values.

[Go Vols]

75. +1

[Trust Buster]

84. I agree totally. Larry Klayman stood outside the White House during the Republican.....

....government shutdown and demanded that the Muslim in the White House get off his knees and come out with his hands up. I'm familiar with the phrase "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" but I'm still saddened the Bernie supporters would assist the despicable Klayman with his evil, racist and misogynistic agenda.

[sufrommich]

27. Yep. nt

[RDANGELO]

38. The difference is, this is real.

It is under investigation by the FBI, along with the Clinton Foundation.

[MaggieD]

160. It's not real - Judicial Watch has never ginned up a real scandal in their lives

They are the authors of the following fake scandals:

- Whitewater
- Benghazi
- Fake voter fraud
-Obama is corrupt (too many to list)
- This bullshit


Here, check them out. Think they have any credibility? http://www.judicialwatch.org/

[libdem4life]

93. Have you any comment other than "attack the messenger"? Is this message wrong?

Is it not in the Public Realm? But Bernie....yada yada yada. It's getting OLD.

[MaggieD]

157. Yes, the messenger is very wrong

Judicial Watch is a far right wing org that exists to gin up faux scandals against Dems. Including Obama, the IRS, Benghazi, Fake voter fraud, Warren's CFPB, Whitewater, and the list goes on and on.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/

[libdem4life]

167. I know who Judicial Watch is. I asked...is the information wrong? I got my answer.

Shoot the Messenger. And they are hardly the only source with this same information. It's coming from all over the place...as more and more "inconvenient facts" come out. As Bernie gets better known, the inconvenient fact is that his momentum is up...HRCs is down. Regardless of messenger.

[Fawke Em]

121. How is MSNBC equated as Judicial Watch?

The OP says it was discussed on MSNBC.

BTW, it really does bother me that only right-wing sites are keeping up with the proceedings. There actually is movement in these suits and investigations and, considering she's a top-tier presidential candidate, you'd think that would be of interest to the media, a group of people tasked with informing the rest of us about issues of importance.

I worked as a reporter for 13 years and for 10 years of that my beat was courts, cops and crime. A story of a presidential candidate's legal proceedings is certainly newsworthy whether anything comes of it or not.

[MaggieD]

154. They are reporting on the civil case Judicial Watch brought

Judicial Watch exists only to gin up faux scandals on Dems.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/

[nadinbrzezinski]

156. I wish I was at the place where this is being discussed

because I would cover it.

Of course, apart of the partisanship, I get it how technical this story is. But this... those stumps are becoming legs

[morningfog]

140. This is the action of a federal judge.

Or did you miss that part?

[MaggieD]

153. In a civil court for conservative Judicial Watch

Who exists only to gin up faux scandals against Democrats. http://www.judicialwatch.org/


Or did you miss that part?

[morningfog]

163. Are you suggesting the federal judge is out of order?

Is the judge part of some conspiracy?

[Bernblu]

33. She's toast. Trump will have a field day with her. It won't be pretty.

[Bleacher Creature]

35. For someone whose screen name references Bernie. . .

You seem a whole lot more anti-Clinton than pro-Bernie.

[Skittles]

87. more anti-Clinton than anti-repuke, actually

[roguevalley]

127. she's got so much dirt.

[840high]

137. My grandson loves to say

she has more issues than the New York Times.

[Skittles]

171. they all do

[840high]

135. me2

[scscholar]

39. Of course *Microsoft* NBC is reporting this

They always stand against the people.

[Fawke Em]

126. Microsoft hasn't owned MSNBC in years.

They sold it to GE who recently sold it to Comcast.

They keep the name because its already branded.

[scscholar]

170. But the people that Gates guy picked...

are still running it. Their influence is still very strong. Very strong.

[jwirr]

42. Like their boss one wonders if they will be willing to tell the

truth?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

45. Well, I'll be hog tied and sold to a hungry nun!

[glinda]

89. nom nom

[NanceGreggs]

53. And the Bernistas go WILD!!!

Hoping against hope that a major scandal will knock HRC out of the running, because that's the ONLY hope Bernie has of winning the nomination!!!

[Matariki]

55. True. She'd be a disastrous nominee

What do you expect. I'd like to see her knocked out of the race early. Yes I would.

[NanceGreggs]

68. Too bad Bernie can't win it on his own merits ...

... but has to hope for his opponent to be knocked down.

Looks like that "everyone who hears his message will get behind him" and the "droves of first-time voters will come out to support him" stuff didn't pan out.

[Matariki]

69. He's winning on his merits. That's just a lazy shot

[NanceGreggs]

92. Then why are his supporters praying ...

... for a scandal that will knock HRC out of the running? Why are they clamouring for speech transcripts in hopes of finding a "gotcha" statement? Why is DU - comprised of 85% BS supporters - full of anti-Hillary bullshit day-in and day-out, instead of posts pointing out Bernie's positives?

Why do BS supporters respond to every question about BS by saying "But what about HER!?!" instead of answering questions about HIM?

Why do BS supporters swarm the websites and FaceBook pages of Democrats who endorse Hillary in order to leave vile comments?

Why do BS supporters demean the character and integrity of people like John Lewis simply because he supports Hillary rather than Bernie?

If Bernie could win on his own merits, none of the aforementioned would be deemed necessary by those who believe he actually can.

[libdem4life]

99. Get real. No one likes to see our political system drug through the mud...especially the financial

and ethical mud.

She has done this all on her own. Stop dragging Bernie or his supporters into this. Bernie wouldn't have even been an issue if she weren't such a terrible candidate for President...see the Facts Noted in this thread.

Either defend her or don't...but you are doing exactly what you are accusing...look in the proverbial mirror.

[NanceGreggs]

107. Thanks for proving my point.

"Why do BS supporters respond to every question about BS by saying "But what about HER!?!" instead of answering questions about HIM?"

She has done this all on her own? Is it Hillary who is causing BS supporters to make vile comments about Democrats who don't support Bernie? Is it Hillary who makes it impossible for BS supporters to post positive things about him instead of negative things about her? Is it Hillary's doing that people like John Lewis have their integrity impugned because they don't endorse Bernie?

That is one powerful woman right there. She's apparently able to force BS supporters to do all kinds of nasty things.

[Warren DeMontague]

108. If the scandal is coming, its coming from the FBI, and i'd rather find out now

Than find out after we're stuck with her as the nominee.

The fault for this shit lies with HRC herself. There is no way to blame "berniebros" for her own fuck up.

[Fawke Em]

138. What I'm praying for is this shoe to drop before she gets the nomination.

Yes. I really am. Because what do you think will happen if she's chosen over Bernie as the nominee and THEN the meat of the investigation comes to light or she's indicted or both?

The Democratic Party would lose big - not only the presidency, but also the down tickets. The party would be screwed for many years to come.

I happen to think Bernie is the better candidate, but I'm not naive enough not to realize Clinton's name recognition, establishment buddies and mega-bucks doesn't make her the favored candidate. If she's the nominee, with all this hanging over her head along with her negatives among Millennials and Independents, we can kiss our asses goodbye.

As to your other questions:

1. We do answer questions about him - daily. Our side has the most entertaining, creative and prolific memes, songs and articles touting his achievements and merits.
2. Most of the comments aren't vile. That's the establishment talking. In most cases, Bernie supporters simply express their disappointment that Senator X or Congressman Y seems to be choosing conventional wisdom instead of true Democratic ideals.
3. Of the two or three articles written about so-called "BernieBros" demeaning Lewis, I found two actual Bernie supporters quoted as examples. The vast majority of social media denizens demeaning Lewis had either no clear political bent or were right-wingers. I sat one weekend and researched that. I clicked on EVERY SINGLE given example in these stories and found two - TWO - people I could clearly identify as Bernie supporters.
4. Bernie could win on his own merits - if the establishment media would give him the air time they've given Trump. Bernie is still an unknown to many people, even if they've heard his name, because the M$M spent the first nine months of this race ignoring him. It's not been a fair fight so far.

[hifiguy]

72. Bernie would win handily

if DWS, who is as useless as a submarine with screen doors and campaigns for Repigs, were replaced with an even-handed DLC chair. As if that would happen.

[cherokeeprogressive]

98. If by "merits" you mean a lack of investigations, accusations, and rumors, I'm afraid you're wrong.

His "merits" will carry him right through while Hillary's lack of merit will be her downfall.

[senz]

125. Oh how ironic.

Hill has millions of dollars, superpacs up the wazoo, influential friends, corporate America and the entire MSM backing her, highly paid "staffers" including Rovian hit men like David Brock, and a huge family name, while Bernie came up on his own, humbly and with hard work, got into the race as an unknown last May with no superpac, no corporate backing, and a hostile media. And yet the American people love him and send him small sums of money and he packs stadiums full of enthusiastic supporters.

No comparison. He came up totally on his own. She is buttressed and coddled and promoted to the hilt.

Now it appears Clinton may have to answer for her entitled "do what I want and to hell with everyone else" arrogance.

And you think Bernie's not making it on his own merit?

You need to develop a better sense of proportion.

[Joe the Revelator]

59. Or, you know, we are smart enough to see that its been on the horizon the entire time, and..

....we'd like to win the GE. Whatevs

[Warren DeMontague]

63. I don't think it will. I've suspected she'll be the nominee all along.

My fear is that the real shoe will drop between the Convention and November.

Boy it's gonna be interesting to see Camp HRC try and blame THAT on "berniebros" or racist volvo driving hippies or some shit.

[comradebillyboy]

77. By the way Nance, someone alerted on you for

using the term Bernistas. The alerter's comments:

"Yes, because we love watching our party get raked through the mud. Let's start with the name calling of "Bernistas," and then we can go into how insinuating that we Bernie supporters want this because. . .is this the level of debate we have come to at DU? I know Nance is a long time poster, but even those people say things that are over-the-top. This is flamebait and over the top."

Pretty ironic complaint given the nature of this thread. Jury voted 2-5 to leave it

[NanceGreggs]

101. I guess the alerter ...

... hasn't seen the posts where BS supporters have referred to themselves as "Bernistas". There is nothing negative about the term - it simply identifies people as being Bernie supporters.

[Matariki]

109. Oh Jeezus, this place

This Sanders supporter thinks alerts like that are petty and makes DU suck

[MaggieD]

147. Been a member since 2001 - never thought I see Judicial Watch get a high five

Funded purely by ultra right wing conservatives smearing Obama, Clinton's, Warrens CFPB, ginning up fake scandals like IRS, Benghazi, whitewater, and a host of others.

THIS is what DU has come to. Cheering right wing nuts. In the old days they would have immediately tombstoned a poster for this.

Oh DU how far you've fallen. Sad.

[Logical]

159. LOL, so you claim the story is incorrect? Link please. nt

[MaggieD]

161. Oh course it's incorrect

Judicial Watch has never done anything but advance fake shit against Dems.

[Logical]

162. Want about 10 more links to the story? Or you already know you look silly? nt

[Logical]

158. Your leader brought this on herself. Whine to her. nt

[morningfog]

166. Not quite. Hoping one of the inevitable scandals sink her before she is our nominee.

Regardless, it is possible for Bernie to get a majority of the delegates without a scandal.

[blackspade]

57. Not good.

I don't want to see her caught up in another 'scandal' real or imagined.

[hifiguy]

60. So who is going to play the role of John W. Dean

and come clean to save his or her own butt?

[asuhornets]

65. And you are happy about that?...n/t

[Skittles]

85. it's anti-Hillary, not anti-repuke

so, of course

[asuhornets]

104. I see..

worse than Republicans..

[libdem4life]

95. No, I'm disgusted. Get her out of our political system. Let her grift on her own time. n/t

[asuhornets]

106. Be careful what u ask for...n/t

[Matariki]

132. And you're okay with it?

With a candidate under FBI investigations and who very possibly broke the law? This isn't some sort of right wing 'Benghazi' thing that can be written off as a partisan witch hunt.

She's a very flawed candidate. It's baffling to see her supporters doing contortions to justify everything from her taking LOTS of money from investment banks to breaking the law with the private email server. If she does manage to become our candidate she's going to be our albatross. So yeah, I'm very happy to see this come out sooner than later.

[asuhornets]

164. Good for you..n/t

[0rganism]

71. real or not, she needs to get on top of this RSN

it could all be bullshit, but even the rankest bullshit has a real effect.

she already has a serious likability and trustworthiness deficit among independents, the perception of additional scandal will only exacerbate the situation and make it harder for her to win in November.

sadly, i'm at a loss for what she even could do about this now. her mistake is several years old, the best time to correct it was before it happened at all, and now it looks to me like damage done.

if she's the nominee, crap like this is going to be a real drag on her chances.

if she has a plan to address the situation, she'd better kick it into high gear soon. clearly ignoring it won't work, and saying "i haven't been indicted yet" is NOT a winning campaign narrative.

[ChiciB1]

88. I'm A Bernie Supporter, But This Not Only Affects Her, It Also

has HUUUUGGGEE ramifications down the line for all the Big Name Democrats who have come out in droves to support her. Our Democratic Party has failed us for so long, but this can't be good for any of them.

And then, we really will UNDERSTAND the true meaning of "trickle down" but not from Ronnie Rayguns, but from OUR OWN!

This really upsets me because of the many, many years I've stood up for the Party, worked hard to get our people elected and an and on and on.

This isn't something to be happy about for THIS Bernie supporter because of what it might mean going forward!

[grasswire]

134. all the more reason she needs to step aside, right now.

She is too flawed to represent Democrats in this critical election.

[azmom]

90. I believe she put our security in jeopardy with her

damn need for personal privacy. No one is above the law.

[thereismore]

100. Personal convenience. Not privacy. nt

[John Poet]

112. Not privacy, not convenience-- for CONTROL.

She wanted to be able to squash those FOIA requests personally.

[fredamae]

96. Timing is everything

Whomever has been sitting on this with this drip drip drip drip bs-has been waiting until the primary's really start to heat up to drop this?
That, imo-is dirty politics.
No matter what discovery is made-this reeks of nothing more than political strategy and anything of this nature should never be politicized.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

124. The damned baggage car sprung a leak again.

[Nyan]

128. It looks more and more like they've been planning to indict her during GE

They've been quite sure for years that the 2016 democratic primary was gonna be a coronation for Hillary. It looks like they've been planning this scenario for a while; they're gonna have a field day with indictment attempt should Hillary gets to GE. It'd better not be her.

[panader0]

129. Huma Abedine will be called

Her connections with the Clinton Foundation will be more damning than her
marriage to Anthony Weiner.

[840high]

143. Yep

[grasswire]

131. jury results on OP

On Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:08 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Breaking on MSNBC... Federal Judge orders Hillary's top aides to testify in Top Secret Email misuse
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511330506

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

False information NO link provided for proof. Inflammatory baiting, blasphemy of a DEMOCRAT

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:17 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Blasphemy? Really?
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: "blasphemy of a DEMOCRAT???"

This is alert stalking at its worst. The information is NOT false. It is the tragic truth.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: If the standard for locking OPs in GD is "blasphemy of a DEMOCRAT", nothing would be permitted to stay open in that forum.
................................................................................

Blasphemy of a Democrat?????

[Gore1FL]

139. The alert stalking is tragic.

Of course so is the grave dancing.

It's not my site, but if it were, I would try to minimize the number of people forced off the board and from on on the victory celebrations when it does happen.

[Matariki]

146. I know. I miss having moderators.

[Gore1FL]

149. I'd even be OK if there was a review system when there was an obvious jury fail.

Or for that matter, and obvious moderator overstep.

I'd love to see a breakdown of alerters and alertees. That would be quite telling.

[Matariki]

144. Unbelievable.

[840high]

145. Thank you jury (most of you anyway)

[nadinbrzezinski]

148. Here is the reuters link

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-idUSMTZSAPEC2N0MQ10D

[ucrdem]

151. Fox interview with Daryl Issa on the subject

It seems he feels very strongly about it:

http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/2016/02/24/is-hillary-clinton-above-law.html

[nadinbrzezinski]

152. Here you go, the full first page of google

https://www.google.com/search?q=federal+judge+orders+hillary+top+aides+to+testify&oq=federal+judge+orders+hillary+top+aides+to+testify&aqs=chrome..69i57.10151j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8

[askew]

168. This story is over 24 hours old. Why is it breaking now? New relevations or MSNBC just that

Far behind?