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greymouse

(872 posts)
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:20 PM Mar 2016

From Robert Reich's facebook page

"Regardless of how well Bernie does today, the media will say Hillary is now the Democratic candidate. Baloney. The "momentum" theory of politics is based on momentum stories the media itself generates. Don’t succumb to the “momentum” game. Regardless of what happens today, this race is still very much alive, for at least 3 reasons:

1. In the next few months the primary map starts tilting in Bernie’s favor: In later March: Maine, Michigan, Florida, Ohio, Illinois, Arizona, Washington state, and Hawaii. In April: Wisconsin, New York, Connecticut, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island. In May: Indiana and Oregon. In June, California, New Jersey, and New Mexico.

2, Small-donor contributions continue to flow in to Bernie's campaign. In February, the campaign raised a whopping $42 million. South Carolina’s loss didn’t stop the flow: The campaign received $6 million on Monday alone.

3. Bernie's campaign is a movement. Americans know we must get big money out of politics and take back our economy from an incipient oligarchy. That’s why Bernie will take this movement all the way to the Democratic convention in, July 25-28 in Philadelphia (you might make plans to be there, too). "

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From Robert Reich's facebook page (Original Post) greymouse Mar 2016 OP
You're already hearing the baloney from Mrs. Clinton's claque here on DU. nt nichomachus Mar 2016 #1
Are you kidding???? AlbertCat Mar 2016 #18
They don't understand that her huge wins in the South reveal how weak she is elsewhere. reformist2 Mar 2016 #43
...but...but it's her turn! NRaleighLiberal Mar 2016 #2
...but...but it's her spin! longship Mar 2016 #3
Take a look zentrum Mar 2016 #23
you and me both Zentrum Karma13612 Mar 2016 #28
Hi Karma! Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #41
Really know…. zentrum Mar 2016 #45
well Hello!!! :-) Karma13612 Mar 2016 #47
Why are you planning to vote for Hillary? JDPriestly Mar 2016 #56
If you will follow my comment up Karma13612 Mar 2016 #62
Best Candidate zentrum Mar 2016 #46
oh yea!! I gave over the weekend so I guess I count in that recent Karma13612 Mar 2016 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author DUbeornot2be Mar 2016 #33
Actually, she "decided to run" for president in 2012 while on vacay w/ Kissingers in Dom. Republic. seafan Mar 2016 #44
turn off the teeeeeveeeee tk2kewl Mar 2016 #4
+ a brazillion! Ours hasn't been used for actual TV in 8 years! NRaleighLiberal Mar 2016 #5
Right there with you mindwalker_i Mar 2016 #6
Baseball, football, cartoons, Seinfeld, Star Trek, movies tk2kewl Mar 2016 #7
that is so funny! Karma13612 Mar 2016 #48
I need to watch Better Call Saul! Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #19
I guess it's good tk2kewl Mar 2016 #20
The Leftovers. Incredible. We finished season 2 last night NRaleighLiberal Mar 2016 #30
kick kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #8
Yep-the primary is front loaded with conservative states. jalan48 Mar 2016 #9
Right on! jhart3333 Mar 2016 #10
Thank you, Robert Reich. K&R for words of quiet wisdom. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #11
It's not over until the fat lady sings Milliesmom Mar 2016 #12
Even then it's not over... LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2016 #31
Especially when she isn't fat!! LOL It won't be over ever! Bernie will not stop, Milliesmom Mar 2016 #36
+ a brazillion! eom Karma13612 Mar 2016 #49
Preach. AzDar Mar 2016 #13
K & R! TIME TO PANIC Mar 2016 #14
When will we begin to see all the Clinton operatives leave DU? INdemo Mar 2016 #15
How about yesterday? marew Mar 2016 #21
Oh, I was banned 6 months ago for the same awful indignity! Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #42
You too jpb33 Mar 2016 #55
K&R dchill Mar 2016 #16
Reich's post yesterday marions ghost Mar 2016 #17
Thank You Robert Reich... People NEED To Understand That's ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #22
Right on NBC, in their 2nd 1/2 of the evening news on supertuesday, Karma13612 Mar 2016 #24
K&R Bernie supporters are in until after the convention amborin Mar 2016 #25
K&R. Duval Mar 2016 #26
It does me a lot of good to read this. Thank you for sharing it! Bubzer Mar 2016 #27
Go Bernie! Go California! SoapBox Mar 2016 #29
Hillary won California the last time only to lose to Obama. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #34
This time, Bernie will win California. Just wait and see. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #59
For the folks who feel Berned by Obama. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #60
I never listen to the media elmac Mar 2016 #32
Something to Remember sgmcenroe Mar 2016 #35
you are so right scottie10 Mar 2016 #40
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #37
well, HC supporters rival their rightwing cousins in obliviousness to or denial of the obvious stupidicus Mar 2016 #38
Nice post! nt Logical Mar 2016 #39
Thank You Robert Reich FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #51
It's the movement. Not the moment. TalkingDog Mar 2016 #52
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Mar 2016 #53
Yes!!! MissDeeds Mar 2016 #54
Excellent Post - Thank You Impedimentus Mar 2016 #57
I heard Mr. Reich on Amy Goodman's program last night. Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #58
As a Hillary supporter, I welcome this news ffr Mar 2016 #61
 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
18. Are you kidding????
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:04 PM
Mar 2016

We heard "Sanders is toast" after Clinton barely squeezed and tiny percentage of a victory in Iowa.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
43. They don't understand that her huge wins in the South reveal how weak she is elsewhere.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:06 PM
Mar 2016

If you analyze the national poll numbers, and subtract out the contribution the South was giving to her national numbers, you see that she is struggling to seal the deal pretty much everywhere else.

If Bernie keeps plugging away, he will start seeing the victories pile up.

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. ...but...but it's her spin!
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:27 PM
Mar 2016

The rotational inertia is strong with that one.

Now where have I seen something like that before?

...Oh yes. Here, I think.


zentrum

(9,865 posts)
23. Take a look
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:16 PM
Mar 2016

…..at the book by Doug Hemwood, called, "Her Turn: Hilary Clinton Targets the Presidency".

It's been a plan of the Billary's since the 90's and her record as his advocate-in-chief and as SOS has been horrifying for the victims: Honduras, Haiti, the spread of Fracking, polluted Mexican waters for big oil, growth of the prison industry, growth of southern poverty do to the way states administered welfare reform.

So I'm with Bernie through the convention and after, for the movement he'll continue.

Karma13612

(4,541 posts)
28. you and me both Zentrum
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:25 PM
Mar 2016

I will vote for Hillary in the general, if it comes to that.

But, I will keep preaching Bernie and E. Warren until I start pushing up daisies!

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
41. Hi Karma!
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:02 PM
Mar 2016

I'm so angry right now, I don't know what I'll do on election day in November. Probably pull the straight Democratic lever, and go have a stiff drink.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
45. Really know….
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:17 PM
Mar 2016

…..what you mean. This is going to be the hardest vote to go through with ever. A drink and a chaser.

Karma13612

(4,541 posts)
47. well Hello!!! :-)
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:19 PM
Mar 2016

My plans:

It'll be a chilly day in the Northeast.
I will probably have a bit of a cold.

My polling place is a tiny town hall in a tiny town in a rural part of Northern NY.
I will park in the tiny parking lot out front. Stuff some tissues in my coat pocket and trudge into the town hall. Its a red area of NY and I expect I will be one of the rare Bernie/Hillary supporters.

I will sign my name in the book, and take my ballot. Sniffle a bit. Blow my nose, Ponder why I live in a part of the country that is not my style. (Blame hubbie)

I will fill in the circles with tears in my eyes and cast my vote for (gasp, sniffle, whimper), Hillary.

shove the ballot thru the machine, wait for the confirmation that my "vote" registered.

Then drive the 5 minutes to my home.
And cry. And pray that Hillary wins.

In 4 years, I will campaign for her to be primaried.

That's what I expect I will be doing.

Karma13612

(4,541 posts)
62. If you will follow my comment up
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 07:48 PM
Mar 2016

you will see I am responding to another Bernie supporter who is also just commenting as to how we will be feeling if we have to vote for Hillary if she is the nominee.

I have no intention of giving up until Bernie conceeds.

But, I also realize I will need to vote for Hillary to avoid a republican nightmare in the white house.

Hope that helps clarify for you!!

Karma13612

(4,541 posts)
50. oh yea!! I gave over the weekend so I guess I count in that recent
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:28 PM
Mar 2016

40 or 45 million.

Its nice to be a part of this!!

Response to zentrum (Reply #23)

seafan

(9,387 posts)
44. Actually, she "decided to run" for president in 2012 while on vacay w/ Kissingers in Dom. Republic.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:09 PM
Mar 2016

She has such a difficult time with the truth.


In 2012, the Wall Street Journal, in a profile of de la Renta, wrote:

Over Christmas the Kissingers were among the close group who gathered in Punta Cana, including Barbara Walters, Bill and Hillary Clinton, and Charlie Rose. "We have two house rules," says Oscar, laughing. "There can be no conversation of any substance and nothing nice about anyone."
.....
It was during this vacation (2012) that Hillary Clinton reportedly decided to run for president for the second time.
.....
When awarding herself the Kissinger seal of approval to bolster her standing as a competent diplomat and government official, Hillary Clinton has not referred to the annual hobnobbing at the de la Renta villa. So when Sanders criticized Clinton for playing the Kissinger card—"not my kind of guy," he declared—whether he realized it or not, he was hitting very close to home.



So, she was pulling in millions for her Wall Street/corporate speeches, knowing full well she was running for president.

But she's still telling us that she "hadn't yet made up her mind" when she took all of that money, so just we little people can just ignore all of that. Right, Secretary Clinton?

By the way, Hillary and Bill also cavorted with their pals, the sugar barons Pepe and Alfy Fanjul in January 2015, at the exclusive resort of Punta Cana in the Dominican Republic.

Clintons hobnob with tycoons at Dominican resorts: Listin, 2 January 2015

La Romana.- Former US president, Bill Clinton, who with his wife chose Dominican Republic to spend their family’s year-end holidays in the exclusive resort of Punta Cana, on Friday went to the even more exclusive resort of Casa de Campo, where he met with their friends, the sugar barons Pepe and Alfy Fanjul.

Outlet listin.com.do reports that in addition to personal matters, the sugar tycoons discuss the possibility of Hillary Clinton’s run for the White on the Democratic ballot in the US elections in Nov., 2016.

During at least the last 10 years, the Clintons have hobnobbed with the likes of singer Julio Iglesias, the late Oscar de la Renta and other high-profile personalities.



(Via Dominican Today)


How much money do we suppose she's accepted from the Big Sugar tycoons of Florida? She's in Miami tonight, probably taking even more.






mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
6. Right there with you
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:49 PM
Mar 2016

My SO bought a TV a while back. It's been hooked up to a Linux machine in the garage for driving a CNC milling machine - best use of it possible

Karma13612

(4,541 posts)
48. that is so funny!
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:25 PM
Mar 2016

Yea, we love our movies!!

We do watch TV, but it's really just a few favorites.

We love movies as well.

And we spend a lot of time on the internet.

 

Milliesmom

(493 posts)
36. Especially when she isn't fat!! LOL It won't be over ever! Bernie will not stop,
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 09:19 PM
Mar 2016

and when he is no longer here, we will keep on going with the fight

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
17. Reich's post yesterday
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:53 PM
Mar 2016
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/robert-reich-explains-why-he-1375868143501366.html

"The only way you get change in this country is by mass mobilization, and that's why Sander's campaign is important."

"The heart of Bernie's proposal is a single-payer health plan. Far lower cost. Economic freedom would result."

"So many Americans feel stretched. The typical American family is worse off than in 2000. Two-thirds of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. Leads to political divisiveness."

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
22. Thank You Robert Reich... People NEED To Understand That's
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:14 PM
Mar 2016

there's no need to give up. I'm sure The Clinton Machine and her following are going to say it's ALL OVER and too many people will buy the rhetoric!

Many don't even know that Hillary stayed in the race until JUNE when she first ran against Obama. WHY would he drop out??

So to any younger people here who think it's hopeless, IT IS NOT!

Karma13612

(4,541 posts)
24. Right on NBC, in their 2nd 1/2 of the evening news on supertuesday,
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:21 PM
Mar 2016

they are already pushing that "they" are going to start to force Bernie to drop out if he doesn't do well tonight.

What a load of hogwash.

Who Is "they"???

The campaign decides when they want to stop, NOT some 'nebulous' entity called 'they'!

And I also want to know why it is that the MSM is continuing to feed the whole excitement regarding the GOP multi-candidate fiasco where most of them can never catch enuf delegates to be nominated, and the MSM is NOT saying that some should drop out.

This is ridiculous.

One day for the primary, NATIONWIDE.

As far as campaigning, I don't care. Make it work.

But, this momentum, and inevitability crap is so destructive.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
26. K&R.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:23 PM
Mar 2016

"Bernie's campaign is a movement". And we will continue fighting. Thanks for the OP greymouse.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
29. Go Bernie! Go California!
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:28 PM
Mar 2016

We here in CA usually feel kind of left out BUT this year we could add a large number to Bernie's total.

I want him to go all the way to the Convention.

sgmcenroe

(30 posts)
35. Something to Remember
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:59 PM
Mar 2016

If HRC wins the south, who gives a shit. The Democrats aren't going to win much in the south in the general election. The south is the heartland of backwards Republicanism. It is as red as the red in the rebel flag they adore so much.

scottie10

(101 posts)
40. you are so right
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 09:33 PM
Mar 2016

I live in NC and see this every day. Sometimes I wish I lived somewhere else just to be with people who think like I do. You can't talk to them either; their minds are closed tight. They don't bother to think and vote against their own best interests. Not everyone, I guess (in case there others from NC out there), but most of them.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
38. well, HC supporters rival their rightwing cousins in obliviousness to or denial of the obvious
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 09:19 PM
Mar 2016

and it gets worse when things are more complicated than 1+1=2

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
58. I heard Mr. Reich on Amy Goodman's program last night.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:24 PM
Mar 2016

While he's endorsed Senator Sanders, he also stated that Hillary would be 1,000 times better than any republican and has progressive qualities about her.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
61. As a Hillary supporter, I welcome this news
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 06:17 PM
Mar 2016

Because I'm a democrat first.

Whomever the nominee is, I will vote for that democrat and all downticket democrats before I will sit out an election.

The fact of the matter is, that as Bernie supporters, you and I have more in common than we don't. You love Bernie, so do I! And no matter the outcome, I want more democrats being sworn into elected office come January than phucking republican do-nothing fat-cats.

Stay involved. Stay excited about Bernie. Get more Bernie supporters to caucus/vote/support Bernie.

With your help, the Republican establishment doesn't stand a chance.

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