Dear Bernie Supporters You've Had Your Fun. Now, Hillary Wants Your Support!

[sabrina 1]

She won the Confederate States as expected. Now she has to try to win over Democrats many of whom were so uninspired by the DNC's choice of candidate they didn't show up to vote.

She is losing in polls now in the upcoming Primaries where Progressives are going with Bernie.

Even in WV and Utah, Bernie is ahead of her now.

And here in NY, amazingly despite the efforts to stop new Dem voters from registering, Bernie is beating her by 2%.

The turnout was low among Dem voters and would have been even lower if Bernie was not in the race.

So despite all the nastiness towards all of us 'racist, sexist BernieBros' Hillary is asking us to 'unite'.

I have to say, as a totally thrilled Berniebro with last night's results I find it INSULTING for her to even SUGGEST that we leave a WINNING campaign for hers when we know she cannot defeat the Republicans.

So, my answer to Hillary's plea is 'how about YOUR supporters coming on over to the Winning Campaign so we can Defeat Republicans in November.



Oh, re BernieBros, anyone remember ObamaBoys?

Now on to the Convention and then to the WH!

Congratulations to Sen. Sanders and his amazing supporters on his incredible Victories last night.

We are changing the face of politics in this country

[basselope]

1. Clinton is the embodiment of everything I have been fighting AGAINST in politics.

I re-joined the democratic party for Sanders.

[sabrina 1]

6. Yes, War as a 'business opportunity' weak on torture, embedded with Wall St

supporter of policies that no Democrat should have ever supported. I admit to being unaware of many of her stands on issues.

I stopped supporting her after her vote for the Iraq War and a statement she made regarding torture.

The people I have helped sign up as Dems are doing so also, only so they can vote for Bernie. No amount of persuasion or amount of appeals from Hillary will cause them to vote for her. The Dem Party leadership has to face the reality that if she is the nominee they are going to lose the GE.

[Javaman]

39. wrong spot nt

[senz]

64. Yep. Pure Wall St., corporate, moneyed power. And war-mongering.

As a Democrat, I reject every bit of that.

[840high]

72. .^that........

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

93. Welcome back!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[asuhornets]

98. ok

so u r not a Democrat; so you don't count.

[basselope]

113. Good to know. Enjoy President Trump

[asuhornets]

116. Then why r u here? n/t

[basselope]

119. To make sure we don't make the mistake of trying to put a Clinton in office

EVER again.

[Bubzer]

134. +1

[Jackilope]

132. Clinton is a Democrat ...

Kinda like a wolf is in sheeps clothing. Under the superficial layer, she is a golden handcuff girl. A Wall St. darling that is going to shaft us in TPP and screwing us in terms of Social Security. But it's all good because of the D by her name.

[All in it together]

137. Great way to grow the Democratic Party

Telling people they aren't Democrats.

Yep people will come back or come to the party with Bernie. Try not to mess this up for Democrats. The 3rd way has done enough damage to the party.

[asuhornets]

139. Yea

And I really believe what you are saying...NOT...

[asuhornets]

143. How many times

have you heard third way in the media. Never. most people don't even know what that is or even care.

[timmymoff]

180. Exactly

The way they need it to stay.

[basselope]

165. I don't consider the Clinton democrats.

And if someone is for de-regulation, welfare reform, the telecommunications act of 1996, the war in iraq, etc..etc.. etc.. I don't WANT them in MY party.

If you just want to "grow the party" why not nominate Trump?

[Cavallo]

148. +10000

I am here because of Bernie Sanders. Otherwise I wouldn't have looked for a site to be with other Democrats.

I don't understand why anyone is supporting Hillary. She is what Occupy taught us to be against. A paid for minion of the 1% corporations. That she's not going to do their will is ludacris. I believe she'll support the people only when there is not a conflict of corporate interest first. Even then, I have not seen her be a liberal past supporting planned parenthood. She even voted against gays on that defense of marriage act.

[Dustlawyer]

175. None of us understand it!

It's like Trump supporters who will still support him no matter what he says or who endorses him. Many of Hillary's supporters NEVER find fault in anything she does, or says, or takes money from!

[Jenny_92808]

186. Unfortunately you are right.

It saddens me.

[earthside]

156. The exact same words I used this morning ...

... in an email to a friend of mine living in Italy who wondered how the caucuses came out in Colorado yesterday.

"Clinton is the embodiment of everything I have been fighting against in politics."

I've been doing politics since 1968 and there is nothing I hate more than a 'Democrat' who caters and shills for the power elite, the bankers and super investors, for the monied class, for the military-industrial complex, for the corporatists, who cravenly plays Identity Politics ... in other words in 2016, Hillary Clinton.

I cut my political teeth on Watergate and Mrs. Clinton has a terrifying resemblance to me of Richard Milhouse Nixon.

We have a chance to save the nation with Sen. Sanders.
Let's not blow it.

[Jenny_92808]

187. I am with you Onlooker

Lets not blow it. I will do whatever it takes to help Bernie. Go Bernie!

[dchill]

212. +1,000,000

[cantbeserious]

215. Plus One Billion

eom

[Nitram]

221. You're against equality for women, African-Americans, Hispanic Americans, LGBT folk?

Against the creation of more jobs, a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, better gun control, reforming the justice system, early childhood education, rebuilding the nation's infrastructure, defending voting rights?

[basselope]

233. You actually believe she is for these things?

[Nitram]

234. I know she is for those things, and she has been for decades.

Hillary Clinton has been working for progressive change all her life. Ask the African-American community. They have great respect for he because she has always devoted time and political capital to their issues.

[basselope]

248. I know she TALKS about some of these issues.

Her record is another story.

Unfortunately, too many people ONLY pay attention to what she SAYS she's done, instead of the actual impact of the things of which she has been a part.

Clinton is NO PROGRESSIVE.

[Nitram]

249. Her record? Have you even looked at her record of action on behalf of all the issues and groups...

...I referenced above? You might be surprised.

[basselope]

257. Yes, I have. woefully inadequate, which is why I could never support her.

[Nitram]

259. OK I'll concede that you don't have a clue about the Clintons.

At least your honest that you'd support Trump before you'd vote for Clinton (as failing to vote for clinton would be direct help for Trump). I think I understand better where you're coming from now. Bernie supporters keep saying Bernie is popular among some Republicans, and I can see that must be true.

[basselope]

260. The Clintons drove me from the democratic party.

I have MANY clues about them.. which is why I would never support her.

And since I live in California, not voting for Clinton is not support for Trump.. it is just not adding another vote to her.

Clinton is exactly what is wrong in the democratic party. They are the tea party democrats.

[Nitram]

261. Tea Party Democrats? LOL!

I'd love to hear in what way they emulate the Tea Party.

[basselope]

262. They are the fringe

They represent the right edge of the party, much like the tea party represents the right edge of the republican party, BUT because they were #winning, even party moderates start to follow them.

The idea that a DEMOCRAT oversaw the destruction of Glass Steagal, Welfare Reform, and the Telecommunications Act of 1996 is unthinkable.. yet the democrats own them b/c of the Clintons.

[sabrina 1]

258. Are you familiar with the dreadful 'Welfare Reform Bill' she was so proud of, and what it did and

is still doing to poor women and children? She DID create 'jobs' at slave labor wages for mothers who were punished by that legislation if they didnt 'act responsibly' you know, like she had to do, by cutting their welfare and providing cheap labor for her Corporate buddies, while those 'jobs' were often hours away and those children had to fend for themselves since their mothers could not be home lest they lose essential money to feed them.

Are you familiar with her statement on children of immigrants a few months ago at all? And with Bernie's? What a contrast.

She and her husband are RESPONSIBLE for the 'need for reform' in the Justice system, so it's hard to know if she has backed off her passionate support for more 'police on the streets' 'three strikes' which put thousands of non violent people in jail. For the Private Prison Industry? For 'tough on crime' but only on the poor, the drug laws and on and on.

I am stunned by people who are dems who supported ANY of these policies she has BOASTED about for so long and played such a huge role in getting votes for, she told us.

The dog whistling as she promoted the Welfare Reform Bill, confirming the Right Wing lie that it was AAs who were on Welfare, furthering Reagan's falsehood about 'Welfare Queens' when the truth was that more white Americans were on Welfare at the time

Why she was able to get Republicand on board, this was THEIR policies which THEY had failed to pass into law, now passed by a Dem administration.

And Women? I am a woman, I still don't see the main issue women care about anywhere near being accomplished, equal pay, nor do I recall HER even trying to get it passed.

[sabrina 1]

2. Check this out which maybe explains why Hillary is reaching out to Bernie supporters:

A reminder of 2008 and where we Obama supporters stood then:



And then look at this:

Future Primaries looking good




No wonder the Hillary Campaign is trying to depress enthusiasm by asking Bernie's supporters to join her campaign!

[madfloridian]

4. .....

[sabrina 1]

5. Bernie is running a BRILLIANT campaign. He knew he could not do much in Confederate states and

didn't waste OUR money where it would do the least amoung of good. I am very grateful for the Bernie supporters in those states who came out against the odds and voted for him.

I believe that Hilliary's campaign's own internal polls are showing her how badly she will do in many of the upcoming primary states.

Bernie doesn't waste the people's time and money he respects the voters in states who he knows will not support him and moves on.

I hear Hillary has already overspent and doesn't have the monetary support Bernie has from the people.

[KoKo]

13. Since she's hawking money from NRA and Goldman Sachs Lobbyists this week...

I'd say she's pretty desperate!

Did you see this?


http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511393801

[malokvale77]

136. I'm one of those that came out against the odds in a confederate state.

My state (Texas) is full of ignorance. The Democratic Party has been complicit in that.

There is nothing left for me to do but support him with donations.

[sabrina 1]

138. Actually I was surprised at the last results I saw on Texas, he got 33% of the vote there,

way more than I would have thought. So it seems while the turnout was low, it would have been even lower if Bernie wasn't in the race.

Sad too for those good people who came out to vote for the Progressive Dem that they live in a state that is so Conservative.

But it looks like Bernie got the progressive vote there too. Bad sign for Hillary who so badly needs it and who clearly doesn't have it.

[malokvale77]

149. The Democratic Party here really sucks.

This used to be a Democratic stronghold. Now I just shake my head in disgust.

[bettyellen]

167. Didn't you say women and POC were running away from Clinton "in droves" just this Monday?

Still looking forward to that OP.

[rynestonecowboy]

191. +1

[Javaman]

42. what's Bernie's polling number for Louisana, Michigan, Mississippi, Florida, Illnois, Missouri...

North Carolina and Ohio?

those primaries come before the 22nd as well as a host of caucus's.

[sabrina 1]

53. He's doing great in the next four states coming up in March. I don't have data on all of them

yet but will post whatever is available when I do.

[lame54]

69. Went to the opening for Sanders campaign office

in Wilmington, NC last night and there were around 300 people. We were surprised and enthused.

[KoKo]

99. Great news...Do you know

when UNC Wilmington has its Spring Break?

I ask because Early Voting in NC starts tomorrow, March 3, and NC still has same site day Early Voting registration. So if there are any college kids who want to vote for Bernie they might want to do that now if they have break coming up.

You probably already know that...but, just passing it along because some people in my area seem to be confused about whether NC'linians can still register and vote same day since the Legislature tried to do away with it...but, so far we are good.

[sabrina 1]

193. That is great news. I have friends in NC who are Bernie supporters, AAs who have had it with

the Clintons. I'm sure they will be campaigning for Bernie also.

[bettyellen]

168. The data is- he needs VT/ NH like wins to stay in the race. He has not gained the women and POC

you anticipated he would just two days ago. And now we have a better idea about her popularity with Hispanic voters from TX. All bad news for Bernie.

[Javaman]

178. thank you, but I'll decide that for myself. nt

[bettyellen]

182. You're welcome but I was replying to someone else's post. To yours? Sanders is lagging in all

the states you listed where there are recent polls, according to 538. He;s a maybe in Utah, and not favored to win again until Wisconsin. And 538 have been on the money so far.

[rynestonecowboy]

194. Are these the same polls....

that have been showing Sanders is a much stronger candidate in the GE for the past few months yet we still see lots of people saying that they are voting for Hillary because they think she is more electable?

[bettyellen]

195. Nope, according to 538, it is way to early to poll for the GE. And Nate knows his stuff.

[Javaman]

219. and again, I will decide that from myself.

not via some unknown internet person with their own agenda.

[bettyellen]

237. You realize I was replying to someone else- both times you responded to me? No need for you to

respond to someone who is not talking to you. None at all.

[Javaman]

241. Then something is wrong with my inbox...

because it's showing you replying to me.

[bettyellen]

242. Fair enough- But that is odd, because if you look at my replies they are not to you. Something

similar has been happening with seeing edits to posts. In some cases, I can see them inside the box with the post itself.
In other cases, I have to scroll down to the bottom of the thread (and not for OPs). Was trying to figure that one out with another DUer but never did! Sorry if it seemed I was replying to you in an OT way! That would be kind of obnoxious!Take care!

[Gwhittey]

220. Nate knows his stuff

When you are dealing with politics as usual. With Trump and Sanders the models used are totaly different. He has been off this time around because it is hard to predict turn out because voter demographics are off and so are way people vote. Take for example he can't take into Account African American votes because it was assumed they would vote less for Hillary because of how she treated Obama in 2008. You know realizing a photo of him wearing Muslim dress and Bill says that in another time period Obama would be carrying his bags. Or that hard working whites would not vote for Obama in GE so they should vote for her.Wow that kinda what she is doing in this primary.

[bettyellen]

243. Well, he has called all the races accurately so far, but whatever.

[ieoeja]

235. You really need to recheck your math. He only needs to win 54% of the remaining delegates. n/t

[Duval]

81. Our NC INDY WEEK publication came out for Hillary.

I was flabbergasted! We usually go with their recommendations, but for the Primary in NC (March 15) we are voting for Bernie.

[marions ghost]

222. Indy recs

not always reliable I have found.

I would have thought for sure they would go for Bernie tho.

[senz]

70. Wow. Now's the time to double down and make it happen.

I had not realized how more-than-possible it looks for Bernie and the American people.

We can do this.

[sabrina 1]

73. Yes We Can!

[MelissaB]

144. This needs to be posted EVERYWHERE!

Thanks for bringing it to our attention. Could you make it an OP as well?

[Trajan]

254. Welcome back, Sabrina ....

What an amazing graphic ....I had been searching for the 'overall picture as it stands today' ...

I'm so happy to see this ... Thanks Sabrina ...

Kick ass!

[PonyUp]

3. "Bill is sorry for calling you tea party lefties...really he is." n/t

[sabrina 1]

9. Apology not accepted. He sure is helping Bernie though. They haven't learned

how disgusted people are with their negative campaigning, even though they lost in 2008

[AzDar]

7. Plenty of time to either enlighten or remind voters who Hillary Clinton REALLY is...

[sabrina 1]

8. I think her internal polls are telling her she cannot win without Bernie supporters so she's

CLAIMING VICTORY, AGAIN, in an effort to depress the growing enthusiasm for Sanders and hopefully to win over the very people her campaign has been trashing since Bernie first announced.

It's amazing that she thinks we are that stupid, that we can't see what she sees, that if she does get the nomination, she cannot win the GE.

Bernie otoh with the backing of the Party and it's way past time they started doing that, will wipe the floor with all of the Republicans, no matter who their nominee is.

[tom_kelly]

29. Unfortunately, Sabrina, she seems to bring out the stupid in the Democratic party. n/t

[Mike__M]

41. The media tries to compare Donald and Bernie

when the better comparison is Donald and Hillary.

The video of Trump debating against Trump could be reproduced as Clinton debating against Clinton.

[sabrina 1]

108. And the nasty. Never knew we had so many negative nasty people in our party until I witnessed

it in 2008 and again, now. I don't remember any other primary campaigns where a Candidate CHOSE to attack the SUPPORTERS of an opponent.

[asuhornets]

110. She can also

bring out the stupid in the Indies and Green Party who have jumped on the Democratic gravy train posing as Democrats.

[asuhornets]

101. She claimed victory because she won 7 states and a territory...n/t

[Plucketeer]

135. Here's hoping

the "afterglow" lasts for her as Bernie piles up more primaries!

[malokvale77]

141. Somebody didn't get the message.

A big time Hillary supporter on DU said: "WE DON'T WANT YOU AND WE DON'T NEED YOU!". Agreement ensued.

I'll take them at their word.

[azurnoir]

16. considering gunz have been her main antiBernie talking point of late I'm not surprised we're

back to race now that she's begging money from the NRA

[ananda]

10. If I have to, I'll hold my nose and vote for Clinton.

But as long as she's corporate and willing to compromise
on women's healthcare, she will NEVER have my support!

[azurnoir]

19. If she has your vote she has everything she wants from you and everybody else for that matter

[closeupready]

22. And she's fine with that, since she'll never support you either.

She'll claim she will, but she is in this for Hillary Clinton, and nobody else.

[CoffeeCat]

49. Your vote is like a one-night stand to HRC

She'll get your vote and then the next morning when you wake up--she'll be gone--and sprinting toward her buddies at Goldman Sachs for reallllly long party.

You'll feel used and cheap. You'll try to call her, but she won't pick up.

So...don't do this to yourself.

[840high]

77. Yep - I won't do it

to myself.

[platitudipus]

92. +!

heh heh

[Kittycat]

155. The worst part...

She will come back with a new threat 4 years later. It's just time to have respect, and say no.

[RufusTFirefly]

83. I'm sure she'll know instinctively that your vote doesn't come with support

Not.

[Ilsa]

150. I think we need to press her for something

if she wants our votes.

I realize her promises might not be worth much, but perhaps she'll take them seriously if she wants to be reelected.

*Take on Citizens United and the sale of our elections.

*A guarantee of a Liberal Supreme Court Justice nominee.

*A promise to veto that bs legislation (and anything like it) co-sponsored by her BFF, DWS, that preys on poor borrowers.

*More Robert Reich-types in her Cabinet as regards Finance and the Economy.

Etc....

[bvf]

232. She'll take it.

Probably has a nice position in the market for clothespins, too.

[Scalded Nun]

11. They called me and told me that as a Bernie follower, it was time to shift to reality.

Not sure how they knew who I supported.

Maybe it was official, maybe not, I really don't care.

I told them to go fuck themselves.

Go Bernie!

[sabrina 1]

56. I can't believe they're doing that, wow! Shameful tactics. And the arrogance and sense of entitlemen

is simply stunning. And probably losing her any chance of getting what she is demanding.

[PADemD]

95. Are you in one of the primary states that has already voted?

Was it the Clinton Campaign that called?

[Scalded Nun]

181. I am in that bastion of enlightenment

Texas.

I early voted last week.

[7962]

197. A friend, who is black, got a call from Hank Aaron & Jesse jackson,

asking him to vote for Hillary. None of my other friends (white) got that robocall. He wondered why they didnt call the rest of us. We're all registered. He joked about it; "Why'd they have to get the blacks guys to call the black voter?"
This was Ga.

[LexVegas]

12. Confederate States = States with lots of minorities. nt

[sabrina 1]

20. More of that divisive nonsense. Sorry, but people are not going to involve themselves in Hiillary'

race baiting and gender baiting. Minorities are lining up behind Bernie at a rapidly increasing rate as soon as they get to now him.

But speaking of VOTERS which is what we ALL Are, why could Hillary not get VOTERS, including minorities, to show up for her even in those Confederate states?

Lucky Bernie was in the race or the turnout would have been so low it would have been even more embarrassing for her.

[CoffeeCat]

68. They've been trying since Iowa to paint Bernie as a racist and a sexist

I remember watching the Hillary campaign in Iowa--try to suggest that Bernie was sexist. Then, they moved on to Bernie as racist. Bill Clinton called us "Bernie Bros"-- a manufactured slur that existed only to swipe at Sanders base of support.

They never quit with their dirty tricks, denigration and lies about Sanders supporters.

You can't move from state to state, burning down everything with your vile, dirty campaign as you drag along the stink of David Brock behind you.

Sorry. The answer is NO.

TOP CLINTON ALLY DAVID BROCK: BLACK LIVES 'DON'T MATTER MUCH' TO BERNIE SANDERS
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/266666-clinton-ally-black-lives-dont-matter-much-to-sanders

BILL CLINTON ACCUSES 'BERNIE BROS' OF SEXISM
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-clinton-accuses-bernie-sanders-supporters-berniebros-of-sexism/

HILLARY CLINTON SMEARS BERNIE SANDERS AS A SEXIST
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/10/hillary_clinton_is_smearing_bernie_sanders_as_a_sexist_it_s_an_insult_to.html

[sabrina 1]

71. And they're still trying. As they did in 2008. And FAILING again and refusing to listen to AAs

themselves telling to STOP SPEAKING FOR THEM. Amazingly they even OBJECT to us reporting on endorsements from prominent AAs in an attempt to SILENCE those AAs. One of them here actually told me that 'those BLM people are just vying for a job' or something like that when a Somali Amercian confronted Hillary.

I am thoroughly so disgusted with her and her supporters as are MILLIONS of other voters, Moveon now has a petition to the DNC from Progressives btw, demanding that our Party stop blocking Bernie and supporting the candidate who cannot win.

So she will lose again,, learning nothing from last time. And that's fine by me.

Brock is a despicable human being and her association with him says it all. As Bernie's campaign manager said. She should be ashamed of that association.

[Gore1FL]

55. Explain New York, then.

The south is politically more conservative. So is Clinton.

[JDPriestly]

87. Actually, California is the state with huge numbers of minorities.

White people are just another minority here.

It isn't about racism.

California is the most populous sub-national entity in North America. If it were an independent country, California would rank 34th in population in the world. It has a larger population than either Canada or Australia.[2] Its population is one third larger than that of the next largest state, Texas.[3] California surpassed New York to become the most populous state in 1962.[4] However, according to the Los Angeles Times, California's population growth has slowed dramatically in the 21st century.[5] In 2010, the state's five most populous counties were Los Angeles County, San Diego County, Orange County, Riverside County, and San Bernardino County, with Riverside County having the largest percentage increase in population.[6] The largest metro areas in California, as of 2010, are Los Angeles, San Francisco-Oakland, San Diego, Riverside-San Bernardino, and Sacramento.[7]

As of 2006, California had an estimated population of 37,172,015, more than 12 percent of the U.S. population. This includes a natural increase since the last census of 1,557,112 people (that is 2,781,539 births minus 1,224,427 deaths) and an increase due to net migration of 751,419 people. Immigration resulted in a net increase of 1,415,879 people, and migration from within the U.S. produced a net increase of 564,100 people. California is the 13th fastest-growing state. As of 2008, the total fertility rate was 2.15.[8]

No single racial or ethnic group forms a majority of California's population, making the state a minority-majority state. Non-Hispanic whites make up 40.1% of the population.[9] Spanish is the state's second most spoken language. Areas with especially large Spanish speaking populations include the Los Angeles metropolitan area, the California-Mexico border counties of San Diego and Imperial, and the San Joaquin Valley. Nearly 43% of California residents speak a language other than English at home, a proportion far higher than any other state.[10]

. . . .


California has the largest population of White Americans in the U.S., totaling 21,453,934 residents as of the 2010 census. The state has the fifth largest population of African Americans in the U.S., an estimated 2,299,072 residents. California's Asian population is estimated at 4.9 million, approximately one-third of the nation's estimated 15 million Asian Americans. California's Native American population of 362,801 is the most of any state; some estimates place the Native American population at one million.[citation needed]

As of 2011, California has the largest minority population in the United States. Non-Hispanic whites decreased from about 76.3 - 78% of the state's population in 1970[12] to 39.7% in 2011.[13] While the population of minorities accounts for 100.7 million of 300 million U.S. residents, 20% of the national total live in California.[14][15]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_California

California is going to go for Bernie. We vote June 7 for 546 delegates to the Democratic convention.

Feel the Bern!

[sabrina 1]

240. Excellent post, thank you JD. The concocted race baiting is the MOST despicable tactic

I've witnessed in my memory and Hillary will go down in history as one of the most divisive politicians we've seen on a Democratic ticket.

Her campaigns are now MARKED by racism, because it is racist to USE AAs they despicable way her campaign did in 2008 and now. Clearly when you hire a Right Wing smear mongering Hit Man, a stupid one at that, this is what you get.

Her supporters at least should be ashamed to get behind that kind of right wing race baiting and many of them are which is why we are seeing so many AAs switching from her to Bernie

[Goblinmonger]

90. Confederate States = States Dems won't win in the GE. n/t

[malokvale77]

145. Get a grip.

Confederate states are those who believed in the right to slavery and in most cases still do.

[LibDemAlways]

14. Hilary supporters remind me of schoolyard

bullies who lord their status over and taunt other kids and make their lives miserable. Then, when the bully needs a favor, he becomes everybody's best friend and starts handing out candy.

As far as I'm concerned, they made their beds. Now they can lie in them.

[taught_me_patience]

104. You joined yesterday and have 60 posts

We won't miss you on this message board when you're gone.

[malokvale77]

146. Aren't you precious. nt

[marew]

128. Exactly!

I will NEVER vote for Hillary, NEVER! And her bud, Wasserman Schultz, should resign in disgrace immediately!

[NCTraveler]

17. There is simply no reality in what you are selling.

"The turnout was low among Dem voters and would have been even lower if Bernie was not in the race."

Take the number of people Clinton got to the polls yesterday over that of Sanders. Then add up all of Sanders victories. His total count in victories doesn't even cover the amount Clinton got to vote over him. It was that lopsided.

How in the world are you still trying to sell enthusiasm equals turnout for Sanders? It is a know fact that while Sanders does have enthusiasm it has no depth in numbers at all. No one is buying that anymore so lets just put it away instead of continuing to promote what many of us have understood as inaccurate for a long time.

[sabrina 1]

26. I'm sorry, but Bernie TROUNCED her in states she as a Dem should have won easily

Dems and Indies and young people and women all came out in those states to vote for BERNIE. Had he not been in the race, like I said, Mn would have been a disaster turnoutwise. Same thing in Mass, where the result is now a virtual tie and hopefully there will be a recount.

Oklahoma, didn't expect a win for Bernie there, but the people CAME OUT for HIM.

Even in Texas 33% came out who would not have, had he not been in the race.

I'm not selling anything, these are facts. When all she can get re support is Conservative, Third Way votes in those states, her chances as polls show, of winning the GE are pretty dismal. She can't win without Bernie Dems and the way she and her campaign have been attacking Sanders and his supporters she has little chance of every gaining their votes, except for those who will force themselves out of fear of Repubs. But that number is now shrinking so as I said, she will lose the GE for us if she is the nominee.

[malokvale77]

147. Exactly

As a born Minnesotan, I'm so proud for their votes.

As a Texas resident, I would not have bothered this primary were it not for Bernie.

[Crabby Abbey]

27. $43 Million is a pretty deep number. :D

We all know the Clintons have huge popularity in the south. We also know it's mostly red down there so it wouldn't make a lot of sense for Bernie to spend time and money there with those two factors against him. Where he is going to show "depth in numbers" and enthusiasm are the big blue states with a more educated population. That's just the fact. Good thing that's where we are headed. Think of seeing Bernie in your side-view mirror - objects may be closer than they appear!

Go Bernie!

[florida08]

18. thank you Sabrina

Needed this encouragement. Just can't accept that so many people sending him money (myself included) would not show up to vote for him. We so need him right now. Time for my March contribution! (cue Rocky theme)

[sabrina 1]

32. See post #2 where I provided information you will find interesting. She only won states that

Progressives never win, and yet, even in some of them, people DID come out to vote for Bernie, 33% eg in Texas. Bernie knew not to waste resources on those Confederate states. The turnout was shamefully low for Dems other than those who came out to vote for Bernie.

I believe, absent dirty tricks which we are already seeing Bernie will win this. He is running a BRILLIANT campaign and his Victories last night are simply amazing. HE trounced Hillary in Mn, a state the Dem FR should easily win.

She got only 14% in the state that knows Bernie best.

I am thrilled with the results.

[Thespian2]

21. Immediately after Pigs fly...

I will support a Lying Liar for Pres...


Thank you.....

[erlewyne]

23. sabrina 1 , don't know what to say, you said it all !!! Except

On the Ides of March I am voting for BERNIE SANDERS !!!

[sabrina 1]

35. Looking forward to the Ides of March also!

[warrprayer]

24. Hi Sabrina!

Kick and Rec!

[sabrina 1]

58. Thank you warrprayer. I am so psyched after Super Tuesday!

[warrprayer]

103. It was a great showing!

And it shows the world that the 99% ARE a force to be reckoned with!

[bobthedrummer]

25. All power to the people. R#63

[djean111]

28. Can't wait to vote for Bernie, here in Florida!

Early voting starts next week!

[840high]

79. I voted for him yesterday.

[seaotter]

30. Lets talk again in June

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511396057

[seaotter]

80. What is Bill offers you up an intern?

[PonyUp]

31. If she says "Please" I may consider...

...nah, I'll stick with Bernie.

[kgnu_fan]

33. NO! Stop bullying!

[Todays_Illusion]

34. Dear Hillary, the 90s are over, we can't be conned again into voting conservative. We want to vote

for someone who will govern liberal, not talk liberal while pal'ing around with the billionaires who own you. .

[SammyWinstonJack]

36. She can't have mine....EVER! GO BERNIE!

[sabrina 1]

37. She won't need it, BErnie is going to win this!

[TheFarS1de]

38. K&R

No more dynasties . I am sick of seeing the same families over and over .

[AlbertCat]

40. Subject lines like this....

..... make it very unlikely.

our "fun"?

I don't support arrogance.

[sabrina 1]

48. Hillary's campaign and her supporters have displayed incredible arrogance from the day Bernie

entered the race and VOTERS in this democracy decided to support him because he best represented them on the issues.

Now she is doing it again, along with her supporters. This IS a democracy, not a kingdom and to assume that after barely eeking out some victories, three of which are still questionable, she thinks she can dismiss the candidate who is BEATING her in the GE with a wave of her hand.

She attacked Sanders FALSELY on his EXCELLENT record on Women and Minorities and even when she received enormous backlash losing her support she badly needed neither she nor her supporters seem able to stop the nasty negative campaigning.

So her appeals now to those she so despises are nothing but insulting to our intelligence.

Bernie is going to win this so she might start thinking of the country and considering her own legal woes, maybe it is SHE who should suspend her campaign

[SoapBox]

43. No More Clintons EVER!

I will not soil my hands supporting a Clinton.

[marew]

129. +1! n/t

[FighttheFuture]

44. Just sent Bernie another $50!!! I want to help March be as good or better than February's

$42M+!

[sabrina 1]

61. What's amazing is how Bernie managed to do this, to PROVE that a good candidate doesn't need Corp

money as we have been told consistently.

The PEOPLE will keep on financing THEIR Campaign so long as he is willing to keep on fighting for us.

Hillary otoh, is dependent on a small group of donors and I have read that she can't go back to them anymore as they have donated the legal limit.

As more people JOIN Bernie's campaign, the more money he is raising.

Remember when he said he would need $40 million to run? Now he gets that in a month.

Thank you for helping to keep our campaign going. I will donate $25.00 today to celebrate Bernie's amazing Victories yesterday.

[malokvale77]

152. Way to go.

I'm about to send him my last $20 from SS.

Next week I will have more. Fuck the oligarchs.

[highprincipleswork]

45. It is insulting. For her to get my support she'd have to prove she'd run as Progressive. Not likely

So, I'm in for Bernie, as long as there's an ounce of hope.

We're making a statement. We're way serious about what we believe. We are very determined to change the downward spiral of Democrats everywhere taking fewer and fewer crumbs. Enough is enough!

[NCjack]

46. Hillary's campaign money is running low. She has a long way to go on super pac money.

Maybe Sweet Debbie can find some new donors. Yesterday, my automatic monthly donation to Bernie was sent, and this morning, I kicked him with another one.

[AgingAmerican]

47. Hillary is a troubled candidate

And the establishment is committing hari kari in forcing her down our throats

[99th_Monkey]

50. KnR - excellent OP Sabrina1 nt

[Katashi_itto]

51. Just Sent Bernie 100.00

[sabrina 1]

66. Thank you Katashi_Itto for helping to finance the People's Campaign! I too will donate

something to day so we the people can beat the Corporate run campaigns and start the process of restoring democracy to our elections.

[Katashi_itto]

115. My pleasure, down with DNC!!!!

[sabrina 1]

120. You can say that again! Out with Debbie Wasserman Schultz, support Tim Canova, a Bernie Democrat

who has decided to oppose her in Nov.

[Ilsa]

157. Thank you.

I donated in Feb and yesterday, but couldn't afford that. But I gave more than the $2.70 they requested.

I've been listening to SBS on Brunch with Bernie on Thom Hartmann's show for years. I had hoped he'd run and cheered like crazy when he announced.

[Paper Roses]

52. Nuts!. n/t

[revbones]

54. Many reasons not to give it.

1. Hillary supporters say $675k directly, $2.5mil to campaign aren't bribes and won't influence her. Well they conveniently ignore her selling her vote on the bankruptcy bill.

2. Hillary attacks Bernie on gun control by misleading and cherry-picking votes, but then quietly stops talking about gun control and raises money from NRA.

3. Hillary promises unions to fight the Colombia Free Trade Agreement, but her emails show she actively and secretly lobbied for it

4. Hillary deflects criticism about her being on the take by lying about Bernie, the one single honest candidate in the race specifically not taking corporate money. Seriously, how is this even possible?

5. Hillary refuses to release the transcripts. Her supporters brush it off as sexist to even ask her, or repeat the line that republicans need to release theirs first. Never mind that she is the one trying to say she'll regulate Wall St, not them.

6. Hillary doesn't take a progressive position until Bernie does, and then only goes halfway. Minimum wage? Bernie wants $15, Hillary says that is too much, so she'll do $12. Single-payer? Bernie wants it, she says it will "never, ever happen" even though she was for it before. It goes on and on.

7. Hillary blatantly lies during debates about Bernie wanting to get rid of Obamacare and start all over from scratch.

8. Hillary is a subject in an active FBI investigation. The FBI is not an arm of the republican party and her supporters will climb all over themselves to quote articles from mid-2015 or compare her case to Petraeus (who plead guilty) or spout talking points - the most egregious of which is to try to argue that because Colin Powell also had a private server, that it is ok.

9. Her campaign is staffed by Goldman Sachs, yet her supporters see nothing wrong with this.

10. She takes money from private prisons and was a primary actor in the Crime Bill. Her supporters, rather than defend her position, simply cherry-pick Bernie's vote as if to say "But he also did it" which would supposedly make it ok. Nevermind that he only voted for it, after much negotiation and getting things like the Violence Against Women and Assault Weapons provisions.

11. She championed welfare reform. Regardless of how you view the terminology she used while championing it, you can't deny the damage it did to people.

12. She is against bringing Glass-Steagall back, and argues that Dodd-Frank is enough. Nevermind that Glass-Steagall protected us for decades and the provisions she's citing from Dodd-Frank are after-the-fact solutions which won't prevent another crash. She's even walked back her language on using that, to carefully phrase that she'd only use it if the system had already collapsed and the bank posed a systemic risk.

13. She ran an overtly racist campaign against Obama in 2008, but now hides behind his accomplishments. Her supporters are just fine with this because she worked in the Obama administration and that somehow makes it all better.

[malokvale77]

159. It's not that hard...

She simply does not care one iota about anyone but herself. She has a history that is well documented.

Nothing she says now will ever convince me that she is anything more than who her campaign team represents.

http://www.muckety.com/John-D-Podesta/8565.muckety

[JDPriestly]

57. K&R.

[elehhhhna]

59. lol.its the arrogance and entitlement. no thanks.

[Boomer]

60. Thanks, no thanks, I'm still having fun

In fact, I'm having so much fun that I made yet another contribution to the Sanders campaign last night. I want Bernie to go the distance, and I'm willing to pay to get him there.

[sabrina 1]

67. Lol, I've never had so much fun in a campaign in my life. Is she serious to ask us to STOP having

fun just when it's turning into a real PARTY? Thanks for helping fund the People's Campaign, that's four in this thread alone, and we are going to give him another $40 Million or so this month to make sure he keeps on winning despite all the forces that are trying to stop him.

[A Simple Game]

62. This is one time I will tell Bernie to take Hillary's advice.

Don't drop out, stay until at least June, you never know when someone might die.

[sabrina 1]

252. I remember that despicable comment. Will never forget it.

[Fearless]

63. Fuck that.

[sabrina 1]

85. Succinct and expresses my sentiments exactly!

[Fearless]

96. .

[MillennialDem]

65. She can get my support if and when she wins the nomination. It's not over until it's over.

[sabrina 1]

133. It hasn't even begun and she's way out of line to suggest it.

[asuhornets]

74. HuH...

Hillary won 8 and Bernie won 4; how is that changing "the face of politics in this country"? This is a joke..

[sabrina 1]

82. She can't win the PRogressive vote, she won the Confederate states which will be won by

Repubs in Nov as always. But where she NEEDED to win Bernie trounced her. Her ONLY demographic now is the Third Way wing of the party. Repubs won't support, Indies are for Bernie, women leaving her, minorities increasingly moving to Bernie as they learn about him.

She can't win without HIS supporters and unfortunately for her, since so many of them are only signing up as Dems, I know I've helped some of them to do so, to vote for Bernie she will not get those young people which Bernie has, as Obama did, overwhelmingly.

Bernie WON Super Tuesday with the votes that count for a Democrat. And even brought out supporters in Texas, 33% who otherwise would have stayed home, and elsewhere also.

Mn she got only 38% a state that should have been hers as the Dem front runner.

SHE knows she won little last night, why she is now asking Bernie's supporters to 'join her'. She knows she can't win without them.

[asuhornets]

97. So let me get this straight

if Clinton wins there is no way in hell Bernie supporters who are democrat by the way are not going to vote for her.


Your words: "women leaving her, minorities increasingly moving to Bernie"-absolutely not true.

[sabrina 1]

102. Sorry, but the facts show that everything I said is true. She is losing the base, she wins with

the Third Way, and SHE knows she cannot win without Bernie's supporters. And NO, a good majority of Bernie's supporters are NOT Democrats, his support is from across the political spectrum. They will register as Dems in order to vote for HIM as they are, but if he loses the nomination, they will return to their original registrations as independents, Greens etc.

[asuhornets]

109. Yours word:

"but if he loses the nomination, they will return to their original registrations as independents, Greens etc." Then they were not Democrats in the first place. Just like alot of Bernie supporters here at DU. Just here passing time. If their candidate don't win, they r going to take their cookies and go home. But they are going to try to slander Clinton as much as they can before they hit the door.

[sabrina 1]

111. Wait, could you point me in the direction of the LAW that forbids a US Citizen from

choosing to be a member of ANY political party that they feel REPRESENTS THEM, then when they feel it no longer does, leaving that Party?

When this happen? I missed it.

See, this is WHY those new Dems will not remain in the party to vote for Hillary. She and her supporters do not RESPECT their choice of party or candidate.

[asuhornets]

114. The people u r referring to have not been

Democrats like Hillary for over 30 years. They join the Democrat party for Sanders who is really an Independent. If he loses, then they are no longer Democrats because their candidate did not win. Unbelievable. Your words: "She and her supporters do not RESPECT their choice of party or candidate." - so now myself a Hillary supporter should have respected Bernie enough to vote for him. So now former Indies and Green members won't support the real Democrat in the race because Bernie may not win. Gotcha.

[sabrina 1]

117. So, when Hillary switched from being a Republican in her twenties I believe, she had not been

a Democrat for thirty years so that means she wasn't a Democrat until 30 years later? So how did she manage to run for the Senate before she had been a Dem for 30 Years?

See to me when you sign up with a party THAT IS WHO YOU ARE, until you decide that the party doesn't represent you and you leave.

The DAY you sign up as a Dem, you ARE a Dem. But then I'm not trying to explain away why Dems are leaving the Dem party, many have left over the past several years.

I'm HAPPY that Bernie is bringing them back and signing up new Dems who will stay in the Party so long as it reprresents them

[malokvale77]

163. Thank you sabrina 1.

The one you have been replying to in this subthread seems to be a bit confused.

You are so patient. Bless you.

[Duval]

75. Sorry, I'm still pulling for Bernie. nt

[PatrynXX]

76. Clinton vs trump is like Russian Roulette with a 6 shooter with 5 bullets in the chamber

and if Han Solo doesn't know that he's really screwed These are what if's of course but there is one thing I can count on. Unlike Democrats, Republicanswill fall in line behind whomever. or they won't vote. Democrats and Independents eh we vote but who ends up being voted on may be written down as the new Liberal Party. Hopefully we won't go for the suicide option

[pansypoo53219]

84. 2 words- goldman sux

[sabrina 1]

88. Sure does, nicely stated!

[pansypoo53219]

91. another 2 words. war pig.

this is not the woman president we need. i am NOT voting for left thatcher. unless i HAVE to. then i will hold my nose.

[sabrina 1]

94. You won't have to, Bernie is going to win this. The people are uniting behind him, Blacks Whites,

Asians, Native Americans, Young, Old, Latinos, Women, Men in an historical coalition of the people not seen probably since FDR to restore this country to its rightful owners.

It's been simply amazing to watch we are living through a really historical period.

[malokvale77]

164. Nope...

I'm old. I'm never holding my nose again when I vote.

[CharlotteVale]

86. Sorry, Hill.

[senz]

89. K&R -- everyone should see this OP.

We can get there, folks!

It's looking VERY good.

[SammyWinstonJack]

100. Kickin' this.

[Vinca]

105. I bet she'd like Bernie's donor base, too.

That sound you heard was my wallet closing.

[sabrina 1]

107. She's running out of money, so yes, I'm sure that is part of her sudden 'love' for us. Mine just

closed also, she gets enough money from Wall St doesn't need our small pittances.

[arcane1]

106. Funny how "waiting until June" is suddenly no longer a valid strategy, now that she's ahead.

[kgnu_fan]

112. To nasty, arrogant, condescending Hilary... We say NO.

[Enthusiast]

118. K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations!

[Utopian Leftist]

121. Even though I live below the poverty level

on Social Security, I will scrape together another $27 for Bernie this month.

It's a solid investment, being that he is about the only politician in either party who gives a flying fuck about the poor and disabled in this country.

And if he wins? I don't care if it's years before any of what I need actually trickles down to me . . . I'll just be happy that my faith in humanity will have been restored.

[sabrina 1]

122. What a lovely post. Thank you, thank you for making that sacrifice though I know Bernie

would not want you to do without anything you might need.

I know that many ordinary people cannot really afford to donate but are doing so because like you, they know it is the best money they can spend.

[Impedimentus]

174. Thank you for the sacrifice - I know it's tough but Bernie is a once in a lifetime candidate

Thank you !

[pdsimdars]

123. not so much

and good luck with that.

[pdsimdars]

124. Beautiful picture in your post. Such a work of inspiration

[DrewFlorida]

125. Solid Bernie Sanders supporter here, if and when Hilary wins, she will have my full support!

I wish I could trust Hilary when she says she will go after banks that are "Too Big To Fail". I'm very disappointed in her position on single payer healthcare for all Americans. I do believe she is beholden to big banks and will allow them to continue their greedy ways. With that said, if she wins the nomination, I will support her with my full enthusiasm, there is far too much to lose if a republican wins the Presidency!

[sabrina 1]

126. She isn't going to win, so you won't have to worry about it. She lost the Progressive vote

on Super Tuesday in a landslide. Why she's sucking up to Bernie supporters,, or I should DEMANDING their support now.

I'm afraid that's never going to happen as we go forward in the primaries, she's looking at the polls and sees her support eroding while Bernie's continues to rise and the public gets to know him.

I am not worried at all about 'holding noses' the very tactic that has cause the slow disintegration of this country for ordinary people and sent trillions of OUR money into the hands of a few corrupt entities.

I will work harder than ever before to make sure that no Corporate Candidate gets anywhere near the WH and so far we are doing way better than I ever thought we would.

[DrewFlorida]

173. Actually, the thing that has caused the slow erosion of the situation for ordinary people....

Is our collective failure to vote in large numbers. If a larger percentage of voters got up off their apathetic tushes on voting day, democrats would rule the Senate, Congress and the White House in perpetuity!
Anyone who refuses to support the Democratic nominee because he or she is not their favorite, is an arrogant fool!

[sabrina 1]

177. No, you are wrong and this is what has finally dawned on voters. WE played that game and enabled

the corporate takeover of OUR party by succumbing to the politics of FEAR. Those days are over now. Progressives will no longer TELL the Third Way leadership of this party, as we have so often before, 'we don't WANT your candidate but if that's our only choice, we will hold our noses and support her/him.'

I cannot think of a worse strategy than telling anyone that if they make sure you can't vote for the best candidate well, okay then, we'll go along with YOUR plans'. THAT is what allowed our party to be taken over by the likes of DWS.

It is OUR fault, the ones who DID vote, the wrong way.

So now, a new era has dawned, Progressives are sending a different message to the DNC and if they do not HEAR it AGAIN, they will lose us the White House as they lost us the Senate and Congress.

You can even succeed here on a relatively obscure political forum in scaring people into voting against their own interests. And if every DUer does that as they have in the past, it won't matter one bit in the Real World.

DWS and the rest of the Third Way leadership refused to LISTEN to voters in 2010 when they supported DINOS and mocked and ignored good Progressive Candidates refusing to help them at all.

The refused again to listen to voters in 2012, even after the voters sent them the first strong message that if they won't listen to the voters, the voters won't listen to them.

Now they are repeating this gross error in judgement and IF Dems lose the WH we know who will be responsible.

The PEOPLE are the ones who call the shots when it comes to elections. NOT a few wealthy operatives with an agenda.

But the people forgot that for a while.

The DNC can either stop attempting to block Sanders from winning this election, start backing him as they are supposed to do in a neutral way, stop PUSHING Hillary on voters, they've already lost over 12% of their membership since 2008, or they will get the full brunt of the anger of what's left of their base when they lose us the WH.

[DrewFlorida]

192. You have the right to your opinion, even if I think it is arrogantly foolish and short sighted!

[sabrina 1]

196. I used to share your opinion too and pushed people to 'hold your nose' because look at the

alternative. But there is an old saying that is true 'repeating the same thing over and over again expecting a different result is foolish'. I'm finished with being foolish This party doesn't BELONT to DWS and her Third Way investment Bankers, it belongs to US.

And I have never seen so many Democrats so angry at how the Dem party has treated them, ever.

I find it ARROGANT for a group of people to DEMAND our votes then tell us how retarded our ideas are, you know Democrats, once they get what they want.

And the vile and vicious and arrogant attacks by Hillary's campaign and from some of her surrogates and supporters on VOTERS confirms for me and now millions of others, that we have to stop enabling these people and assert OUR rights in this party.

I see it here on this Dem forum, the attitude 'we don't need you'. Actually yes, 'you' apparently do, but that's too bad because all the nastiness, in this and Hillary's last campaign has solidified for voters that its the other way around, we don't need THEM.

[DrewFlorida]

255. And because you don't feel needed, and don't get everything you wanted......

You will spite all liberal/progressive causes and help, (through apathy and stuborness) to elect a (wait a moment while I throw-up in my mouth a bit) republican to the Presidency!
Sounds more like a temper tantrum than reasonable rational thought!

[sabrina 1]

256. Oh no, I guess you still think we are not the brightest people around. Do yourself a favor and try

something new.

The old 'let me write the script I want people to read from this person so I can goad them into reacting the way I want' routine is so 'internet circa 1999.

One thing I love though is when people provide ME with exhibit #! to illustrate my points and you just did that.

To all those reading, I know you are far too intelligent not to see this illustration of my point for exactly what it is.

Word of advice, we INVENTED those tactics, but don't use them anymore, we wore them out.

[JPnoodleman]

127. They may insult Bernie and his supporters but...

I'd drag myself through blizzards to cast a vote for Sanders, I'd have to be Dragged to vote for Clinton.

[sabrina 1]

130. People are not going to forget their Race and Gender Baiting. It's still going on so I guess

her supporters haven't received the memo that she is desperately in need of Progressive support now AND money.

I am watching them continue to race bait and wondering how in the name of all the gods and false idols she thinks she can slap people in the face, tell them she doesnt believe they are democrats etc, call them racists and sexists, through her surrogates and supporters and then come DEMANDING their votes?

Does she REALLY think that is even a possibility at this point?

And worse, Bernie is Winning this campaign so the arrogance it takes to even suggest this the INSULT it is to intelligent people is simply stunning.

[malokvale77]

131. Tough shit...

she'll never get it.

Her campaign consists of everything I hate in politics.

[Agony]

140. I AM having fun getting to know people like "We want our whole damn dollar!" Nina Turner!!!

She is one of my heroes!



no fun allowed for Sanders supporters

[ozone_man]

142. Bernie's message will prevail.

The Bern is steadily increasing. Thanks for the great post Sabina!

[d_b]

151. She can kiss my ass

Let her sweep the south in the general. That should send her to the White House.

[cantbeserious]

153. This Citizen Voted For A Clinton Twice - Never Again

eom

[CrispyQ]

154. It's really unfortunate that she ran.

From the beginning she has sucked the enthusiasm out of the race & I think that will make a difference in November. She'll get my vote, but not my time or my money.

[senz]

158. They've been trying to lose our support ALL DAY LONG.

They've doubled down on the sarcasm and sadistic glee.

They'll end up sinking their candidate yet!

[sabrina 1]

161. And succeeding. Lol, I wonder if HILLARY lnows yet about Progressive Dems

Moveon Petition to the DNC demanding that either the voters get to choose the candidate they or 'we will not support Hillary'. This is not the group asking for the pledge, this is straight from the base of the party.

So I guess the old days of 'now let's wipe our wonnds and all get on board, forget the RACE CARD and GENDER CARD insults etc, 'cause we can't let the more evil guy win' are over.

I am glad to see that finally the Progressive wing of the party is demanding an end to the DLC picking our candidates and worse, trying to HARM the ones we pick.

Some but very few will get on board this time. Her supporters' Race baiting etc is a final nail in her coffin wrt to getting any support from decent people who don't deal in such vile games

[malokvale77]

172. This, this, this.

I'm demanding an end to the DLC (Third Way) in "our" party.

The vile race and sex baiting needs to stop.

[sabrina 1]

179. It won't stop, that's all they know, it's all they have and it's HOW they are. The Third Way

WANTS division in the party, it's how they CONTROL and DISTRACT. I have no time at all for the race and gender baiters and don't waste a minute engaging them, you can't because they are not sincere, they have an AGENDA and it isn't equality, it's deception and I have to add, an obsessive hatred for the Left because the Left will not buy their garbage, doesn't fall for Smearmongers like David Brock and are not easy to manipulate.

I focus on those who unite, because we and THEY know that when the people are united, THEY LOSE.

So rather than waste a second on them, I focus on building on unity.

They are scared to death that we the people are going to win. Shattered by the fact that Bernie has gained so much support among Latinos and AAs once they get to know him.

There is a scent of desperation about their dragging up the old race card again even thought it failed so miserably in 2008 and again now.

Leave them to their hatred is my opinion, we don't have time for them. Meantime Bernie gains the support of AAs every day while they pout and throw their little temper tantrums for nothing.

[Lorien]

160. Hillfolk would rather have a Republican in office than an actual Liberal Progressive

They don't care about average Americans, they care about one the ambitions of one morally compromised individual, NOT the well being of the U.S. or planet as a whole. I've become convinced of this after spending months asking them why they support such a corrupt right wing pro-war pro-fracking pro-Monsanto pro-for profit prisons pro-Walmart candidate, and have gotten nothing more than crickets or insults in response. It's almost as if they've all been brainwashed. If they do have solid reasons for backing a candidate who can only win RED States in the primaries, then I'd like to hear them.

And if she is the nominee, then I'll back Jill Stein for President. I don't vote for right wingers.

[INdemo]

162. If Democratic voters would have wanted Hillary Clinton to be President

she would have defeated Barrack Obama in 2008. Why is it so hard for Hillary to understand we don't want you.

If Hillary is the nominee she will lose in the GE.An average of 22.3% voter turn out in the primaries is not the the General Election.


Voters have said
No Bush
No Clinton.

[RATM435]

166. No!

[JEB]

169. Thank you for the powerful honest post.

[Impedimentus]

170. Thank You Sabrina !

[DrBulldog]

171. We're outta America's Dumb Zone now, so it's all clear for Bernie

[sabrina 1]

176. Hillary and Trump swept the Confederate states. I don't think that's a big help wrt

her getting back the Progressives she lost and keeps losing. But whatever, for her to think after how well Bernie, who wasn't supposed to make it to the end of the summer according to her supporters, that there is a chance in hell he is going to get out of her way shows how out of touch her campaign is.

She just doesn't get it. Which is fine. Her not getting is an advantage to Bernie who DOES.

[humbled_opinion]

183. Tell her to release her transcripts

or drop out of the race.... period.

[bettyellen]

184. Bernie now tells supporters that beating Trump is the most important thing!

Adjusting their expectations, guess it will take a while.

[sabrina 1]

198. You have a point. To be honest my expectations were pretty low considering the mountains

we knew anyone with as little money and name recognition and the Democratic Machine against them, would have to climb.

But I was happy he decided to run. Hoped he would make it as far as the Fall but couldn't see how he could considering Hillary's huge stash of Wall St donations.

And then I watched how brilliantly he was running his campaign, and I did have to ADJUST EXPECTATIONS. Damn, it looks like he CAN WIN.

It is a happy adjustment so I'm not complaining.

He is telling the truth, that ONLY HE (see the poll in the OP) can beat Trump.

Thanks for your comment, I like to think about how low my expectations WERE and how much we've had to adjust them since.

He WILL beat Trump if the Repubs let him get the nomination, which I doubt, and he will beat any of their candidates which is why they want Hillary.

[Jenny_92808]

185. HA!

The fight has barely began. The side against the people will lose (you). Hahahahahahahaha! It is time for the people to win. I join so many in the fight against the wrong.

[Jenny_92808]

188. I think I am going to full-ignore you for

obvious reasons.

[2banon]

189. Well Done Sabrina! You Rock!

[sabrina 1]

202. So do you, 2banon. Bernie has the coolest supporters.

[MrMickeysMom]

190. Cheating in MA, Bullhorn Bill in MA....

Here's the exit polls that should convince me of the first point: https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2016/03/02/ma-primary-unadjusted-exit-poll-indicates-bernie-won/

Bullhorn Bill should be post on social media along with anything else that confirms how far big money goes only to never quite get there.

Bernie's in it for everyone. We (imagine this) the social fabric that weaves and mends the thread bare democracy in this country are only now realizing how we can do this.

We shouldn't be dangerous to them, but they are scared of this fact. The establishment third way DLC should have seen it coming after all the years of bullshit candidates that were pre-ordained by the establishment, ever since the frankenstein creation of "super delegates". The 3rd way should have seen it the same way the Republicans are seeing how badly they tarnished their party.

It has to come to this.

And, it WILL!

[sabrina 1]

200. I believe he did win in Mass and with the closeness of the end result, I hope his campaign asks

for a recount.

The fact that Bill Clinton was ALLOWED to campaign outside of a polling station in violation of the law says it all, and with the compliance of the Mayor.

But we are told he didn't violate an law. I was thinking that we might want to TEST THAT LAW, campaign for Bernie in the exact same way he did and see what happens.

But you are right WE are going to win. This is a very different campaign season, people have reached a point of no return,, not willing to play their 'fear of the greater evil' game anymore. Progressives are collecting signatures in a Moveon Petition, demanding that either the DNC cleans up its act or 'we will not be voting for Hillary'. I doubt they will respond, but they are being warned, your chosen candidate can't win without us and she won't win with us after the vileness and ugly campaign they are running.


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[Bassomar]

199. Yep, completely agree with this.

[Betty Karlson]

201. Wholehearted support for your position!

The GE is too important to waste the nomination on someone with negative coattails.

[sabrina 1]

203. Speaking of Coattails Expats for Bernie have compiled a growing list of Bernie Democrats

who are now either running for Public office inspired by him, or are currently serving and have endorsed him. The list is now at 193 Bernie Dems I posted it a few days ago, since then I have to add two more. But he has big coattails already and we might be able to change Congress a little when we go to vote for Bernie in November.

[Betty Karlson]

204. Is there a link to that list please, if it isn't too much trouble?

Or, depending on your energy and time: would you consider providing an updated OP?

[sabrina 1]

205. Here you go:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511339228

We have to add Alan Grayson who has endorsed Bernie after asking the people who they wanted him to endorse, it was a landslide for Bernie.

And Tulsi Gabbard who has quit her position in the DNC and has endorsed Bernie also.

We have to keep them in Congress.

There are some great candidates on the list, Tim Canova eg, who is challenging Debbie Wasserman Schultz and is already getting a lot of support from Bernie supporters.

[Betty Karlson]

206. Tim Canova is a gift that keeps on giving.

Thanks for the link!

[kristopher]

207. You can't blame her for trying.

[King_Klonopin]

208. Ditto --

You fooled me with the tongue-in-cheek title, got my Bern up.

Like others posting here, I plan to donate more money to him.
I'm saddened that my home state of "Liberal" Massachusetts failed to
win the vote for him -- WTF !!

Wouldn't a Hillary presidency be a "Trump Lite" version ?

I find the racist/sexist memes to be the sort of slimy politics one would
see coming from the GOP. Makes me LESS likely to switch sides.

[billhicks76]

209. Lol

[tblue]

210. No dice

Her neoliberal economic and foreign policy positions are bad enough. But the swiftboating of Bernie's civil rights history opened my eyes to the sordid Machiavellian aspect of her campaign and of the candidate herself. No way will I reward that with my vote.

[urbuddha]

211. It's Bernie or Bust !!! I will NEVER vote for Hillary, ever !

I am with Bernie through thick and thin. I will write his
name in if I have to.

[bettyellen]

239. Welcome to DU! So many newer people hating on Hillary. You better believe it.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

213. the cesspool that you guys wallow in has sent Hillary supporters

To greener pastures.

I hope one day they return, because you can always use a word of advice from veterans with war wounds.

[sabrina 1]

253. Veterans are solidly behind Bernie because of the work he has done on their behalf in Congress.

I do listen to them and they support him for the same reasons we all do, he cares about people, he isn't bought and paid for.

What legislation did Hillary ever try to pass in support of Veterans?

Let me know if you want to see Bernie's success with even Republicans on behalf of Veterans. I believe I already posted an Op with endorsements from veterans of all wars for Bernie and a list of his accomplishments on their behalf.

Nice: 'cesspool' which would include millions of voters.

See this is why Hillary's request to Bernie's supporters to join her, will be rejected. Calling Voters names, milliions of them, isn't exactly a winning tactic.

You have a right to your opinion, and Hillary's supporters here have driven thousands of Democrats off this forum, I'm just stubborn and will not be bullied until the admins make an announcement that 90% of their membership are not welcome here.

We will then happily leave it to those who are driving voters away from the Dem Party. We've lost 12% of the Dem base thanks to this kind of bullying.

[cantbeserious]

214. HRC Support - No Way - Voted Clinton Twice - Disappointed Both Times

eom

[Major Hogwash]

216. I must confess.

I didn't vote for then-Senator Obama because he had better policy positions on the issues.
I voted for him because of Obama Girl.
I thought she was HOT!!

[OkSustainAg]

217. Look at how little

the DNC is doing about signing up new younger people to vote in the democratic election.

[sulphurdunn]

218. The Democratic Party establishment

would rather loose the election than back Sanders. He is not considered a member of the club.

[Amimnoch]

223. Since we're doing comparisons

Comparing 2008 to 2016 so far,

Hillary has won 5x states in 2016 that Obama won in 2008 (Iowa, South Carolina, Alabama, Georgia, and Virginia.)
She has lost 2x states in 2016 that she won in 2008 (New Hampshire and Oklahoma).

Counting only pledged delegate counts, if you flip the states from 2008 with the states from 2016, she'd have won.

[c-ville rook]

224. I have voted for the Democrat almost

every in election since I could vote -- at this point over 30 years.

And I am amazed at the card stacking against Bernie from the party, not from another campaign, which I would total understand. It is one of the many reasons why I have been more vocal among my friends about -- Why Bernie? Because I think it is emblematic of the political issues we are having and that keep us chained to what seems to be "America's Next Multinational Spokesperson" and I would like to change the channel.

[alarimer]

225. No. It's a "hold my nose" sort of thing for me.

No support, no money, no speaking up. Just a complete and utter lack of enthusiasm.

Among other things, there will be a steady drumbeat of scandals during her administration. Not all of which will be legit, but if the Republicans dig hard enough, there will be enough there to keep them going for a while. Unlike Obama, who has been scandal-free himself. I mean, how hard can it be to play by the rules? The Clintons have never been able to do that. Always cutting corners, always a little but shady.

Not Frank Underwood shady, but still. I'm not worried so much about the email thing, because I know that Colin Powell did something similar. It is the quid-pro-quo stuff with the Foundation that is worse. It just smells.

[monicaangela]

226. I'd sooner cut my hand off before allowing it to pull a lever for Hillary Clinton

It will never happen. She is a part of the problem, not the solution.

[raouldukelives]

227. K&R! nt

[GoneOffShore]

228. Voting fo for Bernie in the Pennsylvania Primary.

I'm tired of the lesser of two evils.

[ebbie15644]

229. No

[Autumn]

230. There's an old saying, want in one hand...

Bernie did great now we go on.

[sabrina 1]

251. And the more they try to discourage us, the more they PROVE why we are

supporting him and the more enthusiastic we become.

[oberliner]

231. Confederate States?

Does that include Massachusetts?

[riversedge]

244. It is a demeaning, Shameful comment for Southern Dems no matter has you look at it.

[oberliner]

250. Agreed

[mikehiggins]

236. Anyone who has a stake in the ways things are going today opposes Sanders

If you look at the list of endorsers, etc, lining up for HRC you see person after person and group after group who have vested interests in keeping this sham going.

Some, like Goldmine Sucks, have obvious interests in the status quo which makes it possible for them and other Wall Street HRC backer to destroy our (and the world's) economy. (If you haven't seen THE BIG SHORT yet what are you waiting for, and why?)

Senators and Congresscritters, Governors and DNC officials all have obvious stakes in keeping the game going. Others are afraid of the animosity the HRC camp shows towards anyone who doesn't toe their line. HRC opponents in Congress and State Houses can count on a really difficult time during the Third Clinton term. Obama supporters who think HRC is really going to continue his advances are due for a rude awakening.

They remind me of the South Pacific islanders who reportedly listened to Christian missionaries and decided the smart money was with Satan. Jesus, they figured, would forgive them for their choice; Satan never would. Me, I think that whole thing is a fantasy but love to use it as an analogy.

(no, potential alerters, I'm not calling HRC the Devil. I don't believe in the Devil

[Chicago1980]

238. As someone who leans Clinton, please leave the Bernie people be.

Even I agree that the message needs to keep being spread and that only happens with a debate of the issues.

Don't alienate them, listen to them.

Yes, we're gonna all need one another come November, but there are a number of primaries to be had.

Don't call something before its over.

[sabrina 1]

246. Thank you.

[DallasNE]

245. A March 1st Poll From CNN

Showing a strong Bernie lead against all comers while Hillary, incredibly, only beats Trump.

Dems vs Trump:
Clinton 52 - Trump 44
Sanders 55- Trump 43

Dems vs Rubio:
Clinton 47 - Rubio 50
Sanders 53- Rubio 45

Dems vs Cruz:
Clinton 48 - Cruz 49
Sanders 57- Cruz 40



Electability is everything!

[sabrina 1]

247. Thank you, he is indeed the Dems only chance of winning the GE. So why is the DNC trying to stop

him? Do they WANT a Repub President? Don't care about the SC? It's clear Hillary is not going to win the WH so continuing to make sure she wins the nomination is political suicide imo