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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 07:41 PM Mar 2016

Time for Bernie Sanders To Get In Line (Newsweek/Daily Beast)

Does Super Tuesday change anything on the Democratic side? Bernie Sanders got enough wins, and delegates, to keep at it. So that won’t change—and I want to say clearly that it should not change. But this is what should change: From here on in, Sanders ought to lay off the attacks on Hillary Clinton, the Goldman Sachs speeches and all the rest. Eventually, he’s going to lose. She’s going to win. He can do it in a way that burnishes his standing in the party he’s decided to be a member of and that makes him a pivotally powerful senator during a potential Clinton presidency. Or he can do it in a way that damages her reputation and ultimately his own.
Most of the individual results, for all the hype, don’t really mean that much. Sanders won Vermont. Given. Sanders won Minnesota and Colorado, which are both important states, but they’re weird caucuses. Oklahoma was an interesting win, but the black percentage of the vote is small there compared to Deep South states, and anyway it’s as red as a state gets. Wesley Clark won Oklahoma in 2004.
A number of Clinton’s wins don’t really matter much either, again, because they’re red general election states. Texas, Tennessee, Alabama, Arkansas; who cares how much she won by? Georgia is a slightly different story, because Georgia is inching its way toward purple-dom, and she can at least make Donald Trump spend money there this fall.

But two Clinton wins matter. First, Massachusetts matters some, because it’s New England. It’s a very different state from Vermont, of course; it’s a machine Democratic state. But it’s one Sanders was really hoping for.
But the big one is Virginia. It’s an indisputably important November state, one that if the Democrat wins, she or he probably will not lose the election. The kind of state where a candidate needs to be able to make the case: “I can carry this state.” And she didn’t merely win Virginia. She just smothered him there, 65 to 35 percent.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/02/time-for-bernie-sanders-to-get-in-line.html

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Time for Bernie Sanders To Get In Line (Newsweek/Daily Beast) (Original Post) big_dog Mar 2016 OP
We are already in Bernie's line, and you and all the meme of the day posters will get in line behind litlbilly Mar 2016 #1
We are being shown their hate RobertEarl Mar 2016 #7
when I saw the AP call MA for Bernie then they changed to Hillary, something looked wrong litlbilly Mar 2016 #10
It won't be looked at RobertEarl Mar 2016 #15
something like they added 109 to the number and added most to Hillary, they ended up with a negative litlbilly Mar 2016 #17
I have been fighting the vote corruption for 15 years RobertEarl Mar 2016 #22
and hopefully eventually get the right people in office to fix it once and for all. litlbilly Mar 2016 #24
Haha, stay in the race, just stop being mean to Hillary! bobbobbins01 Mar 2016 #2
Its just marching orders from what it looks like litlbilly Mar 2016 #8
Yup. His attacks on Hillary will only help the GOP in the GE. It will not get him nominated. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #3
It will weaken the party and waste money. To continue beyond the point where it's ... NurseJackie Mar 2016 #6
What? RobertEarl Mar 2016 #9
Bernie can just use the 2008 timeline for guidance... islandmkl Mar 2016 #16
Please!!! Stop smearing Hillary by factually accounting her record... Indepatriot Mar 2016 #4
I'll just leave these here...... UglyGreed Mar 2016 #5
Chelsea Clinton says to stop picking on her mom! noamnety Mar 2016 #18
Or Marc will UglyGreed Mar 2016 #20
Gonan put this "big dog" in a line Old Codger Mar 2016 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #12
I have already fallen in line. SamKnause Mar 2016 #13
Damn right. Me too. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2016 #19
I am in line behind the candidate who polls best in the general election jfern Mar 2016 #14
"He can do it in a way that burnishes his standing in the party." grntuscarora Mar 2016 #21
good luck with that restorefreedom Mar 2016 #23
 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
1. We are already in Bernie's line, and you and all the meme of the day posters will get in line behind
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 07:45 PM
Mar 2016

us. Just the way it's gonna be. Ive seen the get in line, or its over for Bernie all day long and it is getting really old really fast.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
7. We are being shown their hate
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 07:58 PM
Mar 2016

How dare we stand up to them! How dare Bernie question them and the establishment!

They don't want democracy, they want to appoint their chosen one.

They hate us.

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
10. when I saw the AP call MA for Bernie then they changed to Hillary, something looked wrong
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:01 PM
Mar 2016

the exit polls had him up by 6 points. I wonder if that will be looked into.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
15. It won't be looked at
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:09 PM
Mar 2016

The AP had called the count for Bernie because AP had their hands on the exit polling.

Well,, the establishment couldn't have any of that and they have their ways of manipulating the counts.

We are on our own. They don't care about fair, they only want it their way. Bernie is the only hope to restore democracy.

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
17. something like they added 109 to the number and added most to Hillary, they ended up with a negative
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:11 PM
Mar 2016

12 on other. We shall see. Cant let them get away with this stuff

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
22. I have been fighting the vote corruption for 15 years
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:38 PM
Mar 2016

Our only hope is massive turnouts like we had with Obama.

The establishment doesn't ever want to see such turnouts again.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
2. Haha, stay in the race, just stop being mean to Hillary!
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 07:47 PM
Mar 2016

They can't honestly believe what they're writing anymore. Its a comedy routine.

SunSeeker

(51,777 posts)
3. Yup. His attacks on Hillary will only help the GOP in the GE. It will not get him nominated.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 07:53 PM
Mar 2016

And it is not too much to ask that he keep his promise to not go negative.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
6. It will weaken the party and waste money. To continue beyond the point where it's ...
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 07:58 PM
Mar 2016

... mathematically obvious he won't be the nominee will tell me that he's in it for himself, for vanity purposes only.

Fortunately, I have more faith in him and I'm sure he'll do the right thing.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
9. What?
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:00 PM
Mar 2016

The turnout numbers are proof the party is going down. The heads of the party are to blame and Hillary owns the heads, so she is to blame for the lousy turnout.

islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
16. Bernie can just use the 2008 timeline for guidance...
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:09 PM
Mar 2016

why would anyone have a problem with letting all the states vote?

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
18. Chelsea Clinton says to stop picking on her mom!
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:11 PM
Mar 2016

leave hillary alone!

Stay in the campaign but at your speeches talk about how nice my mom is!

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
11. Gonan put this "big dog" in a line
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:02 PM
Mar 2016

With that avatar you need to go straight to ignore and stay there

Response to big_dog (Original post)

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
21. "He can do it in a way that burnishes his standing in the party."
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:25 PM
Mar 2016

Good god. This author has NO idea what Bernie is about. To this opinion writer, it has to be all about advancing status, career, enhancing establishment credentials, blah,blah,blah. Can't believe someone would actually be standing for something other than his or her own political gain.

Imo, this author really has no clue what Senator Sanders is about, and what he has been about his entire adult life.
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