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Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 09:33 AM Mar 2016

Help me win a debate with a Republican co-worker. Do Hillary's emails show she told Chelsea a

different explanation for Bengazhi than what Hillary told the public?

Although I'm a Sanders supporter, I think Bengazhi is 100% Republican-manufactured phony outrage bullshit, but I don't know anything about the emails to Chelsea.

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Help me win a debate with a Republican co-worker. Do Hillary's emails show she told Chelsea a (Original Post) Vote2016 Mar 2016 OP
All smoke, no fire. This is what your co-worker is talking about: Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #1
But...but...she's a vicious, lying killer! That's what I heard on DU, anyways. randome Mar 2016 #3
I'll Help You Out ... 66 dmhlt Mar 2016 #2
This is an effort to... Mike Nelson Mar 2016 #4
It really doesnt hold water SwampG8r Mar 2016 #5
At the time Hillary sent the e-mail to Chelsea, Ansar al-Sharia had claimed responsibility for ... Jim__ Mar 2016 #6

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
1. All smoke, no fire. This is what your co-worker is talking about:
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 09:48 AM
Mar 2016
Latest State release: Clinton emails with Chelsea after Benghazi attacks and more:

Clinton and her daughter Chelsea Clinton exchanged emails after 8 p.m. on Sept. 11, 2012, with Chelsea Clinton using the alias “Diane Reynolds.” Clinton invited her daughter to call, saying she is in the office late because of attacks on U.S. facilities in Egypt and Libya.

Apparently they did not speak, but Clinton delivered this news after 11 p.m.

“Two of our officers were killed in Benghazi by an Al Queda-like group: The Ambassador, whom I handpicked and a young communications officer on temporary duty w a wife and two young children. Very hard day and I fear more of the same tomorrow. Let's try again later.”

Clinton appears to be ascribing the attack to a terrorist group, although the Obama administration later described it as the result of a spontaneous protest. Families of some of the four Americans killed in Benghazi have previously complained that the Clinton emails appear to show her passing along information about the attacks that they claim was denied to them.
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
3. But...but...she's a vicious, lying killer! That's what I heard on DU, anyways.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 09:50 AM
Mar 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]

Mike Nelson

(10,927 posts)
4. This is an effort to...
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 09:50 AM
Mar 2016

...parse Hillary Clinton's every word on the subject. The attack was by terrorists... one admitted to being offended by the video. Also, there was a decision by President Obama - early on - to cease using George W. Bush's phrase "War on Terror". This had an effect on how his cabinet would refer to terrorism. Put in Hillary's position, at the time of widespread unrest and confusion, I don't really see her (or Obama) as guilty of the "LIES!" everyone screams about. But, they're going to think that - and you'll never change their minds.

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
5. It really doesnt hold water
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:20 AM
Mar 2016

Given the timestamps on the emails she was giving the info she had which would have been cloudy at best. It reads to me like a summary of what we knew at the time and an actual concern for the lives lost.
Its almost saying why she is running late on that day with a summation of why without too many specifics
We have all done this if we have jobs somtimes work shit happens
Bernie supporter here giving my opinion

Jim__

(15,088 posts)
6. At the time Hillary sent the e-mail to Chelsea, Ansar al-Sharia had claimed responsibility for ...
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:07 AM
Mar 2016

the attack. At that time, US intelligence had no reason to doubt that claim. Ansar al-Sharia later denied that the claim was actually made by them.

So, yes, Hillary told different stories about the attacks to her daughter and the public. But, the stories were told at different times, and the US understanding of what had actually happened had changed in the interim.

The narratives that Hillary gave represented the best understanding of the US at the times they were given.

From wikipedia:

On 11 September 2012, the United States Department of State Operations Center advised the White House Situation Room and other U.S. security units that Ansar al-Sharia was claiming responsibility for the attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi that had just occurred.[24] Witnesses said they saw vehicles with the group's logo at the scene of the assault and that fighters there acknowledged at the time that they belonged to Ansar al-Sharia.[19] Witnesses also said they saw Ahmed Abu Khattala, a commander of Ansar al-Sharia, leading the embassy attack, a claim Mr. Khattala denied.[25] According to longwarjournal.org, the group issued a statement asserting that it "didn't participate as a sole entity" and that the attack "was a spontaneous popular uprising" to the film trailer Innocence of Muslims, widely condemned as anti-Islamic.[26]

As of 6 August 2013, U.S. officials confirmed that Ahmed Abu Khattala, the Libyan leader of Ansar al-Sharia, has been charged with playing a significant role in the 2012 attack on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi. According to NBC, the charges were filed under seal in Washington, D.C. in late July.[27] Khattalah was arrested by U.S. Delta Force special operations personnel in a raid on Libya on 15 June 2014.[28][29] He is being transported to the United States aboard the USS New York aircraft carrier and is expected to face trial in a U.S. criminal court.[30]
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