Bill Clinton in Newton today 2016 MARCH 1

[UglyGreed]

Just stopping by to say hiya.....not campaigning because that would be illegal




Former President Bill Clinton was outside the Newton Free Library greeting voters this morning.

http://village14.com/newton-ma/2016/03/anyone-see-bill-clinton-in-newton-today/#axzz41i6lkX3m

[haikugal]

1. Unbelievable, but wait...it's Clinton so OF COURSE!

[stonecutter357]

2. Must be nice to have your check delivered by hand.

The Clinton's mail my check!

[UglyGreed]

3. Corrupting the system

and blatant disregard for election laws and voter rights is always a blast!!!!!!

[monmouth4]

4. And checking out that beautiful young woman whose hand he's holding..LOL.. n/t

[Downwinder]

5. Nobody called the Cops?

[UglyGreed]

6. Would they

come????

[Downwinder]

9. Don't know.

I have been called on it for inadvertently wearing a button.

[UglyGreed]

7. Would the Secret Service

tell them it's cool we got this?????

[Downwinder]

8. Good point. Are SS LEOs, sworn to enforce the law?

Paid vacations may be in order.

[alcibiades_mystery]

10. If you look in the background, you can see 20,000 Sanders supporters walking away

from the polls dejectedly.

That's why Clinton won Newton 63%-36.5% (14,640 - 8,489). Had Bill not been in that parking lot, the vote would have surely been 14,640 - 28,489, thereby giving Bernie Massachusetts! Cheaters!!!!

[msanthrope]

11. There's the Clenis, supressin' the vote!!! nt

[UglyGreed]

13. Ditto

Your disregard for the voting process and the laws associated with that process equals the Clintons' so I'm glad you have found someone who shares your values.

[msanthrope]

14. As a voter protection attorney for the Democratic Party, this reminds me of the "outcry"

of some regarding the 14th Ward in Philly. The 14th was one of my wards, in 2012, FYI.

Let me know if you find a complainant.

[UglyGreed]

15. He was campaigning

plain and simple and you as an attorney choose to fail to recognize that fact is even worse in my eyes.

[msanthrope]

16. Sure, okay. Like I said, find a complainant. nt

[UglyGreed]

17. Of course

Counselor carry on

[Fairgo]

51. Being an attorney

Means you prevaricate for a living, espousing an advocates position. You know, parsing the meaning of "is" or what constitutes extra marital sex while on the job as the president of the United States, that sort of thing. You will forgive me if I think your pedigree actually lowers your credibility as an ombudsman for the truth.

[alcibiades_mystery]

54. ...

[UglyGreed]

55. Forgive me but

one does not need to be a lawyer to understand when someone is not being totally honest and bending the rules............ Lawyers are trained to circumvent the law just as much as they are trained to uphold it............ Yes I should I be brought to heel because I expressed my opinion to those who believe they are superior to myself.

[Fairgo]

57. Well said!

I stand with you!

[UglyGreed]

12. That is not the point

Your disregard for the voting process and the laws associated with that process equals the Clintons' so I'm glad you have found someone who shares your values.

[alcibiades_mystery]

20. Isn't it, though?

I can hold these two thoughts in my head at once:

1) Bill Clinton is a shithead who shouldn't have been anywhere near a polling place
2) Hillary Clinton won Massachusetts regardless of Bill's antics

Can you entertain those two thoughts at once?

In any case, it should be the Clinton people who are throwing things at Bill: if he delayed or blocked voters in Newton, those voters were far more likely to be Hillary supporters - the area went to Clinton nearly 2-1!

[treestar]

52. This is a Revolution!!!!!!!

I mean Hillary is so boring but Bernie is our only hope. Yet Bill's presence can keep them from voting! Some revolutionaries there! The most victimized revolutionaries ever! Thank goodness the Founding Fathers were not like this.

[NCTraveler]

18. Awesome. An enthusiasm generator. nt.

[UglyGreed]

19. No a circumvention

of the laws but whatever floats your boat...

[NCTraveler]

21. The Clintons are going to make our boats rise!!!!

What a great enthusiasm generator.

[UglyGreed]

22. Maybe yours

but sadly not the 99%

[NCTraveler]

23. That makes no sense at all.

UglyGreed said it here first. NCTraveler has made it to the 1%!!!!!!

[UglyGreed]

24. I don't know your

income and don't pretend I do hence the word maybe

[NCTraveler]

25. It was a true stroke of brilliance and I'm sure it's a great conversation starter throughout....

your day.

Happy wonderful Thursday, after a magnificent Wednesday, that followed an amazing Super Tuesday!!!!

[UglyGreed]

26. .

[NCTraveler]

29. More brilliance.

How about this. If either of us falls in the one percent, I would bet it might be you.

Do you see how foolish that is?

[Faux pas]

27. If we can't beat 'em

cheat 'em, the grand old slick willy way.

[UglyGreed]

30. And they don't

care, the campaign or some of their supporters. That is what bothers me the most.

[Faux pas]

31. Yeah, it's a-m-a-z-i-n-g

how many of 'them' are on my ignore list. Very disturbing and disappointing.

[UglyGreed]

34. It is disturbing

and yet they project that image onto Sanders supporters.

Psychological projection, also known as blame shifting, is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unpleasant impulses by denying their existence while attributing them to others.[1] For example, a person who is rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude.

According to some research, the projection of one's negative qualities onto others is a common process in everyday life.[2]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

[Faux pas]

37. Before now it seemed to be a right wing thing.

the turd way is what? The left wing of the rethug party? Yep, I believe it is.

Three Ways To Fail At Everything In Life

1. Blame all your problems on others.

2. Complain about everything.

3. Not be grateful.

I'm with Bernie ALL THE WAY!!!!!

[thucythucy]

28. Is this within the legal limit

of a polling place?

If not, what's the problem? I'm used to seeing candidates and signs on the street outside a polling place, as long as they're outside the 50 foot limit or whatever it is.

[UglyGreed]

32. Some work of a Reddit Sanders Supporter

Activities in the Polling Location
On Election Day, certain activities are prohibited within the polling location and within 150 feet of the polling place. General Law chapter 54, section 65 prohibits within 150 feet of a polling location, among other things, the posting, exhibition, circulation, or distribution of material--including pasters, stickers, posters, cards, handbills, placards, pictures or circulars--intended to influence the action of the voter. G. L. 54, § 65 (2002 ed.). Consistent with the activities restricted by statute, the implementing regulations prohibit the solicitation of votes for or against, or any other form of promotion or opposition of, any person or political party or position on a ballot question, to be voted on at the current election. 950 C.M.R. § 54.04(22)(d). Accordingly, a person standing within 150 feet of a polling location, including observers in the polling location, may not: hold any campaign sign; hand any person literature intended to influence the voter’s action at the polls; wear any campaign buttons or identifying signage; solicit a person’s vote for or against a candidate or question on the ballot; or, distribute stickers. Circulators of nomination papers, initiative and referenda petitions are also restricted from soliciting signatures within 150 feet of a building entrance door to a polling place. G. L. c. 54, § 65 (2002 ed.). This is true even where the nomination papers, initiative petition or referendum have nothing to do with the current election.

Where Bill was standing



Google Street image



150 feet from polling place

[thucythucy]

33. So a poll watcher should have told him to move.

Where were the Bernie poll watchers?

[UglyGreed]

35. Yeah tell a former POTUS

and the Secret Service to beat it.................

[thucythucy]

36. Yeah, if you're a poll watcher

you are there to make sure the law is obeyed. You don't say "Beat it," you say, "Excuse me Mr. President, you may not have been aware of this, but our local election law requires you to move further away from the polling place. Thank you."

I'm sorry you find it laughable that anyone would ask a former president to obey the law.

[UglyGreed]

38. Are you kidding me????

The mayor himself told the people get over it...........

[thucythucy]

39. Not at all.

I've been a poll watcher, I know poll watchers, and they take their jobs seriously.

You really think that's a laughing matter?

[UglyGreed]

40. OK

they did not do their job so not only Bill but the poll watchers need to be held accountable. Good to see in the end we agree.

[thucythucy]

41. Absolutely.

BTW, if I didn't mention it before, I voted for Bernie on Tuesday.

Best wishes.

[UglyGreed]

42. Good to hear

[thucythucy]

43. Yeah, but I'm getting more and more frustrated

by the tone of some of these OPs, and from both sides.

Hopefully, once the primaries are over, we can get back to the very serious work of keeping the Republicans as far from the presidency as possible.

[UglyGreed]

44. I'm sorry if this OP

upset you but I just find this attitude that a former POTUS showing up in around polling places is not a disregard for the rules mind boggling. Thanks for the replies and I'm sorry if I mistook your position on the subject.

[thucythucy]

45. Hmm. Here's my position on this:

if Bill Clinton was violating election laws he should have been dealt with as any other citizen violating such laws would be dealt with.

Generally, that would mean a poll watcher coming out to ask, politely, that the citizen move away so as to conform to the rules. I've seen this happen multiple times. Generally, people simply aren't aware they're in violation of the relevant ordinance, and they obey when asked. I can't imagine that a) Clinton KNEW he was breaking the rules (assuming he was) or B) he wouldn't have moved if asked--especially since it would have happened in front of multiple press and cameras.

But if the person in question doesn't obey, then the police are called and the person is again asked, perhaps a bit more firmly, to move on. I've also seen this happen, and this has always, in my experience, got the job done.

The next step -- which I've never seen happen -- is for the police to take the violator into custody, after which it becomes a criminal justice matter.

I think the tone around what Clinton did here is just ridiculous. There's another thread where a poster says, quite seriously, that even if President Clinton wasn't breaking any laws whatsoever, he should still somehow be barred from appearing near polling places, because even his very appearance is "violating the spirit of the law." That's ridiculous, and probably unconstitutional. Even former presidents have the right to campaign, or simply stand around on a street corner, if they so choose.

I hope Bernie wins the nomination, and then the GE, but this ridiculous nit picking reminds me too much of the Benghazi Committee, Ken Starr, and all the other GOP BS comments. I'm very disheartened to see it here on DU.

[UglyGreed]

46. Being a part of many

campaigns lets not pretend he and the Clinton campaign does not understand how this looks and I'll leave it at that.

[UglyGreed]

47. Also look at all the threads

here concerning Elizabeth Warren and what BernieBros are supposedly doing to her online and then make out that this just needs to be brushed aside. I hold elected officials retired or not at a higher standard than internet trolls. Hypocrisy comes to mind.

[thucythucy]

48. Well, in my opinion, for what's it's worth,

they're both rather absurd lines of attack, and in a month will be forgotten, as so much else is forgotten once a campaign moves forward. Neither of these "controversies" will have much if any impact on the final result.

[UglyGreed]

49. Well one may be against the

law the other is definitely not.

[madokie]

50. No f'ng shame

not one iota

To them the means to an end matters not its the end game they're after and by gawd they'll do whatever it takes to get there. I'm really getting put out by the both of them

[bkkyosemite]

53. Knock your crap off Billy boy

[UglyGreed]

56. Indeed

thank you for saying so.....