2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNot a good day for Hillary: Honduran enviro activist Berta Caceres assassinated
As if the email thing wasn't enough, we are reminded again today of Hillary's very bad record as Secretary of State in her admitted involvement of the American led military coup against democratically elected Zelaya in 2009. It's in her book, Hard Choices. Not only the violence in Honduras, but also the refugee 'crises' of Hondurans in the US can be laid at her feet.
The homicide rate in Honduras, already the highest in the world, increased by 50 percent from 2008 to 2011; political repression, the murder of opposition political candidates, peasant organizers and LGBT activists increased and continue to this day. Femicides skyrocketed. The violence and insecurity were exacerbated by a generalized institutional collapse. Drug-related violence has worsened amid allegations of rampant corruption in Honduras police and government. While the gangs are responsible for much of the violence, Honduran security forces have engaged in a wave of killings and other human rights crimes with impunity.
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/9/hillary-clinton-honduraslatinamericaforeignpolicy.html
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)Here's just a bit of the story: "Then the Lenca people of Rio Blanco learned of another dam planned in the area, this time on the Canjel River. The Canjel River Hydroelectric Project is already under construction near the border of Santa Barbara and Intibucá. Blue Energy a brand new dam company owned by U.S. investor Peter Ochs of a Kansas-based private equity firm, Capital III together with Canadian dam company Hydrosys Consultants, have begun building the Canjel Dam. The proposed dam is small, yet is being built in violation of ILO Convention 169, as the Lenca communities in the northern part of Intibucá, including Rio Blanco, were never consulted."
edit: the coup was to get rid of labour unions. Zelaya was kidnapped in his pyjamas. Sound familiar? Ask Aristide
iandhr
(6,852 posts)And I am pretty well informed.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)Her bloody wake doesn't seem to concern them one bit
Kicked and recced and welcome to DU!
great white snark
(2,646 posts)I've concluded that you should cut the bullshit melodrama it fools no one.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)by her supporters here. Most of these threads drop like a stone or get snark replies only (see upthread here)
Tk2kewl's thread has more than 200 replies - no HRC supporter can name a single HRC foreign policy "success" in more than 5 hours of it being up
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511402280
For as much as HRC's supporters tout her SOS stint, nobody can defend it. Like this thread right here.
And melodrama? Yeah, ok. I'll admit to being deeply concerned and passionate about HRC's warmongering. She's a bloody hawk and its disastrous for the U.S.
John Poet
(2,510 posts)from threads documenting Hillary's foreign policy neocon activities...
It almost seems coordinated, how they won't post on them.
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)Really send them a message
dana_b
(11,546 posts)it's from The Nation:
http://www.thenation.com/article/the-clinton-backed-honduran-regime-is-picking-off-indigenous-leaders/
These people are being slaughtered and she is proud of these "hard" decisions? Imo, it's sure not the experience that we need.
amborin
(16,631 posts)bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)A little bit of good judgment outweighs vast amounts of bad experience.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)I was beginning to feel super invisible. Posted something on Haiti yesterday (?) that was virtually ignored. It's truly frustrating, this blind faith in Hillary's 'experience' with no critical support of it. I can't find any - good or bad - from Clinton or her supporters!!! I'm scared of her. We're already too dangerously close to WWIII.
And thanks for the Nation article link!
yardwork
(61,608 posts)The stock market crash of 1929, leading to the Great Depression
The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, leading to World War I
The election of Adolph Hitler, leading to World War II
The Treaty of Versailles, also leading to World War II
The American Civil War
The Spanish Civil War
The 100 Years War
New Coke
The extinction of the dinosaurs
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)What's your point? Would you like to be known as willfully ignorant, aggressive or just mildly snarky?
yardwork
(61,608 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)But carry on....
yardwork
(61,608 posts)Nobody has done jack-shit to stop it. I gave up believing in a savior-politician a long time ago.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Cognitive dissonance much?
yardwork
(61,608 posts)Not great at all, but orders of magnitude better than the Republicans.
Bernie doesn't even seem to care much about foreign policies. That won't help.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)That's nothing more than surrendering.
yardwork
(61,608 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)yardwork
(61,608 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)the deadly mistakes Hillary made as sec of state?
yardwork
(61,608 posts)The moderator yelled "English only" and the crowd cheered.
But, please continue to call a Latina civil rights icon a liar while insisting that you are heartbroken by global geopolitics.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)And the disastrous fallout of the coup
artislife
(9,497 posts)She has been a pillar, epic, amazing ...but she lied.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Svafa
(594 posts)drokhole
(1,230 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)Shameful, really.