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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:46 PM Mar 2016

Bernie Sanders may not have won Colorado after all



http://www.denverpost.com/election/ci_29587219/bernie-sanders-may-not-have-won-colorado-after

Bernie Sanders beat Hillary Clinton by a margin of 19 percentage points in Colorado caucus straw polls this week, but the delegate count is starting to tell a different story.

Clinton now looks likely to tie the Vermont senator 38-38 in the state's delegate count, according to projections from The Denver Post, Bloomberg Politics and The Associated Press. That includes a potential 38-28 split in Sanders' favor in projections based on Tuesday's preference poll results, plus 10 superdelegates (out of 12) who have committed to Clinton, the former secretary of state.

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Before Bernie supporters start complaining about super delegates, they should probably know that Bernie's top adviser was instrumental in the creation of the superdelegate process:

Bernie's top adviser, Tad Devine, was "instrumental" in the creation of super delegates

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The superdelegates became part of the Democratic nominating process in 1982 to ensure the Democratic party has input on who the nominee is. They wanted to prevent another election like 1972's when George McGovern won the Democratic nomination, but lost every state minus one.

Ironically, Tad Devine, Sanders' top adviser, who was instrumental in the creation of the superdelegate process, defended their existance.

"It's pretty hard to win a nomination in a contested race and almost impossible to win without the superdelegeates," Devine said in 2008 in an interview on NPR.

Now, Devine's boss, who is running on an anti-establishment message is losing the superdelegate race.


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http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/super-delegates-center-democratic-nomination-fight-again-n516891
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Bernie Sanders may not have won Colorado after all (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 OP
Bernie won in pledged delegates. BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #1
He will still have won Colorado. dogman Mar 2016 #2
5th OP with the Same Title SheenaR Mar 2016 #3
At least the 5th. MelissaB Mar 2016 #6
It doesn't. Agschmid Mar 2016 #10
Oh Geez! Since Bernie's top adviser started the super delegates then I think they're just great now. Dawgs Mar 2016 #4
The name of game is delegates Gothmog Mar 2016 #5
Uh...Tad Devine did not "defend their existence" JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #7
Tell me again how superdelegates won't overrule the popular vote result. jeff47 Mar 2016 #8
They won't overrule the popular vote jsmirman Mar 2016 #9

BlueMTexpat

(15,368 posts)
1. Bernie won in pledged delegates.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:53 PM
Mar 2016

Of that, there is no doubt. And I say this as a Hillary supporter.

The SuperDs issue should ultimately resolve itself without any weeping, wailing or gnashing of teeth even though I can already imagine the tons of such that will be posted in response to this OP.

dogman

(6,073 posts)
2. He will still have won Colorado.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:54 PM
Mar 2016

If you're interested in the irony of super delegates, look at the Humphrey campaign to understand what happens to a Party that picks the candidate over the will of the people.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
3. 5th OP with the Same Title
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:58 PM
Mar 2016

Originating right from your group.... Any reason you all are pushing this so hard?

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
10. It doesn't.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 05:22 PM
Mar 2016

Posting political opinions, on a political discussion board is NOT spam.

Even posting it over and over again, the admin has given us tools to deal with it quite easily if you find it annoying (Trash Thread, Ignore the poster, Trash by Keyword, etc.)

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
4. Oh Geez! Since Bernie's top adviser started the super delegates then I think they're just great now.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:59 PM
Mar 2016

Thanks for pointing that out.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
7. Uh...Tad Devine did not "defend their existence"
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 04:02 PM
Mar 2016
Ironically, Tad Devine, Sanders' top adviser, who was instrumental in the creation of the superdelegate process, defended their existance.

"It's pretty hard to win a nomination in a contested race and almost impossible to win without the superdelegeates," Devine said in 2008 in an interview on NPR.


That is not a defense of superdelegates.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
8. Tell me again how superdelegates won't overrule the popular vote result.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 04:50 PM
Mar 2016

Since you're trumpeting superdelegates overruling the popular vote result.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
9. They won't overrule the popular vote
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 04:52 PM
Mar 2016

and as a Hillary supporter, I find threads like this unnecessary and divisive. Bernie won Colorado.

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