2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI wish this would get more publicity....
... but it's not obscene or otherwise shocking in a bad way...
http://zfacts.com/2016/02/clinton-speaking-fees/
Over the negative din of politics, it can be hard to hear whats positive. Hillary Clinton has given $17.6 million of her speaking fees to charity (see below). Thats 26 times as much as she made on her three Goldman Sachs speeches combined, or 50% more than she made on her 51 speeches in 2014 and 2015. Before presenting the details, let me summarize.
Her fees were not the least bit unusual given her stature.
Over 100 lesser known Americans are also in the $200,000+ category.
The Goldman Sachs fees were below her average fee.
She gave $17.6 million of her speaking fees to charity.
Charging G. Sachs less would have just meant more profits for them and less for charity.
There is simply no evidence, or logic, supporting the idea that she would sell out her whole career and deceive her huge base of supporters with a fake proposal to rein in Wall Street (a proposal that Elizabeth Warren supports). That she would do all this in return for three below-average fees from Goldman Sachs is beyond absurd.
Now take a quick look at a Talk at Golmand Sachs (GS), or at civil-rights-leader John Lewis talking with the CEO of GS, or the CEO of the NAACP or LGBT Professionals speaking at GS. Obviously GS hopes for good publicity and the speakers hope to influence GS. If youre looking for conspiracies, this is a very silly place to look for them.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Thanks.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)made with an anticipation of enormous returns.
Qutzupalotl
(14,311 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)assume she is whispering sweet nothings to WallStreet while telling voters she is firmly saying "Cut it out!"
Which is it?
NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)But you'd have to abandon all common sense to assume that Hillary was "whispering sweet nothings" in a speech.
If Hill wanted to "whisper" anything untoward to GS, why do it in a speech? Why wouldn't she just have some one-on-one discussions with the PTB at GS, and conduct those discussions behind closed doors?
HRC's speaking contract specifies that there be a court reporter present to prepare a transcript. If her speeches contained anything untoward, why would SHE ask that a record of them be made? There would always be the risk of a leak, even if the risk was slight. That's a risk that wouldn't exist at all if she simply said "no transcripts".
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)Human101948
(3,457 posts)Do you have a list of all the charities she donated to?
noamnety
(20,234 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)Pay to play organization set up aa a shame charity
Your link says it explicitly
snot
(10,524 posts)Mike__M
(1,052 posts)Rentiers skimming value off the working people until they have more than they know what to do with, then giving it away to their choice of "good causes." Philanthropists do not get votes from this worker.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)... has done nothing but good. Would that more of our wealthy citizens spent their energies this way.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)Qutzupalotl
(14,311 posts)As Sarah Silverman said, it's not that Clinton is bad, it's just that another candidate came along who is so much better!