Beware The Berners

[ancianita]

[metroins]

1. I just don't get it

All the smears against the Democratic front runner and nominee.

I could sit here writing Bernie basher posts all night, but I just don't think that's how a Democrat should treat another Democrat. I do my best to not smear.

It's just sickening how I see all the RW talking bs points against our fellow party member.

Especially one as broad as this.

[Stand and Fight]

3. Agreed. I refuse to bash either of them. Now the Republicans on the other hand... lol n/t

[Live and Learn]

4. Yikes, you might want to let admin know that someone has usurped your user name

because I have seen smears about Bernie posted by somebody using it.

[metroins]

5. I don't think I've smeared him intentionally

I think the closest thing I could do is point out the realist math on delegates that he won't be the nominee.

I don't think I've mentioned him as a person or his family.

My wife and I routinely say we'd be happy with either, we just think Hillary's ideas will pass Congress and we think she will win the GE.

I have nothing at all against Sanders, if he was as far ahead as Clinton right now, I'd be backing him.

[RobertEarl]

15. I take it you think H is in the Oligarchy?

And that's why you replied as you did?

[metroins]

16. Enjoy your night

We both know where this was coming from.

I'm not going to act as if anybody is ignorant.

[ancianita]

19. Come on, guys, this was just meant as a general attempt to lighten things up.

We're moving into the General soon, and I just want everyone to remember that, no matter who is the nominee, we have oligarchic, corporate capture of this government.

Something should happen to it, and it won't happen with Trump.

[2pooped2pop]

27. If you think Hillary's ideas will pass congress, then you must think Bernie's will too

Since she has weathervaned to claim all of his ideas as hers.

[Lunabell]

29. Oh snap!

[Live and Learn]

41. +10,000 nt

[tazkcmo]

7. There's no mention

of any candidate besides Sen Sanders. I understand if you don't think we're living in an oligarchy now and I'd disagree but that's wasn't your complaint. You took it as an attack on your candidate though none were named or even implied. I took it as an attack at the whole corrupt system. Interesting.

[metroins]

8. If it's not an attack on Clinton

Then it's fine by me.

I doubt that's the case but I'm not going to put words in the OP that aren't there.

[tazkcmo]

9. Well

You already did. That's what I responded to. I can see why you'd assume it was about Sec Clinton.

[metroins]

10. I don't see the word

Clinton in my first post.

[tazkcmo]

12. The Money Shot

"It's just sickening how I see all the RW talking bs points against our fellow party member."

In this sentence you claim the poster is a RW smear, used by and against one fellow party member. No, the word Clinton isn't in there but who else would be the "fellow party member"? You seen several of these so there must be one particular person the RW smears have been used against.

I understand why you would assume it was about "a fellow party member" though, even though those words didn't appear on the poster.

[metroins]

14. We could play semantics

Or you can have a lovely night, like I am having.

I'll choose to wish you a good night, because I assume we both know where we stand and there is no reason to continue a word game.

We both know where this ends 10 posts from now.

[tazkcmo]

20. Semantics.

It's not semantics. You complained about the poster calling it a RW smear against a fellow democrat. I pointed out it isn't, it doesn't even mention a candidate. You say you doubt it's not against Sec Clinton. Then you say you didn't mention her in your first post, pretending that you your second post doesn't exist and say it's semantics.

You know, calling that poster a RW smear against a fellow party member is a smear by you against a fellow DUer. The one that posted it. You've accused them of smearing a fellow party member with RW bs talking points,and then admit you believe it to be against Clinton although the word Clinton appears no where on the poster. That ain't semantics.

[metroins]

21. It was 70 degrees tonight

In Austin Texas.

I hope your weather was as splendid.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

31. I thought Austin was progressive

[seekthetruth]

11. The problem is, and Hillary supporters just don't get this.....

....is that she is just not a progressive. Sure, she's a Democrat, but she's a new corporatist Democrat which means she takes money from corporations. No matter what she says, as long as she continues to take contributions from big business, she won't get a large portion of Sanders supporters' votes in the fall, if she gets the nomination. And that will hand the presidency to Drumpf.

It's not smearing if you're pointing out facts about a candidate. Is she qualified? Sure. But so is Sanders. And he refuses money from corporations.

Get it now?

[metroins]

13. No.

When she is this far ahead, the deficit is extremely unlikely to be overcome.

Thus, I don't agree with attacking a Democratic candidate.

I could respond to the other portion of your post, but it all boils down to delegate math and Clinton had a better strategy coming in.

[Gwhittey]

18. As Commander Peter Quincy Taggart

would say. Always give-up, Always surrender.

[metroins]

22. Nobody is saying give up

It's just the current rules show an extremely likely win for Hillary.

The only thing I've actively asked for are less attacks on non policy issues.

I think Bernie campaigning is a good thing. My wife and I think a lot of Bernies stances are good, just not winnable in a GE this year or through congress in the next 8 years.

[PonyUp]

24. Hillary's only policy is to flip-flop on everything.

She has so many bad non-policy issues she can't even keep up with them.
I will never vote for her or any other Clinton EVER.

[MillennialDem]

26. I will continue to bash Hillary until the nomination, after which point I will proudly vote for her.

(provided she is the nominee)

She's infinitely better than any republican. But she is not progressive enough. She will not get anything done to get money out of politics and she will not get anything done, other than perhaps one small token piece of legislation and will probably nominate some supreme court justices.

She also fares worse in head to head polls against the republicans than bernie does. I don't think she'll lose if she's the nominee, but it's definitely possible and not something we want to risk. Remember what happened when we ran from the center in 2014?

[grasswire]

37. nobody attacked her in this thread. nt

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

36. It's about oligarchy. Do you like it? Simple question.

[CoffeeCat]

38. I didn't see Clinton's name mentioned in this meme/OP

In fact, I didn't think about HRC at all when I saw this. I thought about Bernie's argument about our government in general and how it's run by rich "elected representatives" who serve the rich, and not "We The People."

So very interesting (and revealing) that you immediately thought this was "smearing" Hillary Clinton.

[bvf]

56. A lot of people have lost it completely.

We've reached the point where just the mention of the name "Bernie Sanders"--or merely a simple image with no mention of Clinton whatsoever--sends them into conniptions.

[JDPriestly]

42. It's a joke. It's not a Hillary bash.

If it is a bash of anything, it is of the oligarchs.

Hillary supporters seem to be overly sensitive.

Do they feel guilty or something?

I did not see the OP as directed at Hillary at all?

How could anyone see that it was a bash at Hillary?

[bvf]

45. Telling, isn't it?

[JDPriestly]

47. It's positively paranoid.

[snort]

44. Yeah, ancianita!

Just cut it out!

[Skittles]

49. really, it's a smear against the system

in general

[RobertEarl]

2. Oligarchy is feeling the heat

[ancianita]

6. I wish! I just like the kidding-on-the-square tough talk of oligarchic bag men used here.

[RobertEarl]

17. Your wish is Bernie's command

And every day more and more people are realizing they have the same wish.

[silvershadow]

23. This deserves a bump. nt

[tomm2thumbs]

25. Kick and Rec - loved the folk defending the oligarchy... sooooo ironic

btw, unless you are part of the oligarchy, it shouldn't even offend... so I guess that speaks volumes

[ancianita]

32. Right? I think things are so heated lately that we forget to have a chuckle now and then.

[pugetres]

28. The responses are nearly more

humorous than the graphic.

K&R

[LiberalLovinLug]

30. Love it

I can almost hear him saying just that!

Interesting how the Hillary sups just assume Bernie is talking about her. Which he's not. Hillary is wealthy, and worships at the feet of the new Democrat Corporacracy, but she is small potatoes, merely a puppet lackey for the big boys.

[ancianita]

34. Well, I don't post it to say anything about her at all. Just thought it was funny mafia talk.

[CoffeeCat]

33. LOL!!!!

Oh, I love this! I definitely laughed out loud.

I think Bernie would get a kick out of this. Someone should send it to him.

[ancianita]

35. F'sho!

[grasswire]

40. please, someone, send it to Bernie! nt

[AtomicKitten]

43. Perfect. k/r

[Skittles]

46. heh

I like that

[SciDude]

48. It's very Freudian that Clinton supporters are upset about attacking the oligarchy.

Sad, very sad.

[ancianita]

51. I'm hoping the olies get upset when we make our tax spending great again.

[raouldukelives]

57. No doubt. nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

50. Naw! Those corporations are just donating to Hillary because they love democracy.

And, of course will stop being the oligarchy when she frowns and says "stop it".

[ancianita]

52. I think Hillary would think it's funny for anybody to say this to the Olios.

She's got enough bourgeois background as the rest of us to see the point.

[left-of-center2012]

53. Clintonistas are sooo sensitive.

The pic doesn't even mention Clinton,
but her supporters are outraged!

Oh well, any opportunity to attack and smear Bernie I guess.

[ancianita]

55. Not tryin' to say all that here. I just wanted a laugh or two at the oligarchs' expense.

Know what I mean?

[Katashi_itto]

54. K&R!

[Enthusiast]

58. Kicked and recommended to the Max!