2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumOnce again, Bernie is the candidate we need, but maybe not the one we deserve.
Sam FrizellVerified
Sanders: I believe health care is a right of all people.
Baier: Excuse me, where did that right come from?
Sanders: Being a human being.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)than a little to do with it, in fact almost all. We'd be a huge underdeveloped nation with no Bill of Rights if conservatives had had their way.
We -- mainly liberals! with some help from others -- won the first seminal fight for what kind of nation we were going to be, but we've had to fight them every single year since to keep them from destroying what we build. They by nature do not believe in equality, and almost all our government structure is intended to build equality right in with its warp and weft.
Yes, conservatives have had more victories over the past 40 years than we did, but we also protected a great deal. And now the wheel is turning again. We have a chance to become ascendant once more and to not only repair, restore, rebuild what today's hard right has destroyed but to continue to advance as a nation.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)why are there STILL democrats who support Saudi Arabia, when they are the progenitors of the same flavor of Islam that our current terrorist faction-du-jour follow? Wait, the terrorist faction-du-jour that the actions of the entirety of the Republican party, and an unsettling number of Democrats created by sending us into Iraq, which kickstarted a chain of military "interventions" in the Middle East that another so-called Democrat continued as SecState-- the terrorist faction-du-jour that all of that created?
Why are there STILL democrats who support shipping jobs overseas, rather than supporting unions, nurturing small business instead of allowing the larger competitors to knock them out of business and confirm their duopolies, their triopolies, so on and so forth?
Why are there STILL democrats who support destroying the Earth we live on via fracking, via being unwilling to make the jump to clean fuel before larger carbon emission suspects choke out the very air we breathe?
If we really don't deserve this reaming, that'd imply we'd learned from our mistakes as a WHOLE. And yet, we have Democrats who if they told me it was raining outside, I'd have to go and make sure it wasn't just more politicians pissing on us, who continue to make the same kinds of mistakes and missteps that we've been making since the sixties and seventies. Don't give me all that about "we have a chance to become ascendant again"-- we are quite firmly mired in the shit, and yeah, part of that may have to do with the right-wing majority in Congress. But that just lends more credence to my point, is that we are still mired in the mistakes we've been making for damn near fifty years.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)It's a terrible world made up of terrible people. Go eat worms. Or better yet, find a better place.
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BreakfastClub
(765 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)They will crush all opposition, all light, for evermore in this country if Bernie
does not win. It will be Hillaries from now on.