Sick and tired of the BS

[Highway61]

"Excuse me, I was talking"????? Are you kidding me? That BS is to take the focus off the REAL issues. Where the hell is the outrage over NOT releasing the contents of THAT speech? That would be a game changer and we all know it. That arrogant look on her face when she refused says it all. Where the hell is investigative journalism? Damn media bullshit is what it is!

[Buzz Clik]

1. You've got the right idea: the best way to stop the conversation...

... is to start a new thread on the topic.

[NurseJackie]

15. Thank you!

[dana_b]

2. And fighting it is like this

I eventually just turn off the MSM and, frankly, some people here and work on other things.

Phone bank maybe? I find talking to actual people on a 1:1 basis is better.
Or maybe go for a walk, listen to music, etc.

[saidsimplesimon]

30. I've gotten a few calls from "Women for Bernie".

It was a conversation, not the usual Clinton check list or opinion poll. Come to think of it, I really don't hear that often from the Clinton campaign, not since I made my first donation to Senator Sanders on ActBlue.

[Duval]

45. We turn it off after about 10 mins.

Going for a workout at the gym today. Listening to music is a great way for me to get in a better mood, also.

[PatrynXX]

48. usually letting the answering machine get it for a few seconds then hanging up at some pivotal point

makes sure they don't call back

[corkhead]

3. strategic use of the ignore and trash features on this site will make that all magically disappear

I know first hand.

[VulgarPoet]

17. This is what I've gone back to doing. Reaching across the aisles has proven nonconducive

And now I'm pissed off again.

[corkhead]

19. Time and tme again I see a hit and run post where it seems the person who posted

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is not interested in dialogue. There are responses that counter the inflammatory OP but the author has already moved on to post another inflammatory bullshit rw talking point. I wait for a response to my comment from the hit and run poster and then I put them on ignore.

I think they just post shit to get it out there. They don't care if some people put them on ignore because not everyone does so they are successfully catapulting the propaganda to everyone else. They don't seem to be interested in a discussion so they aren't worth my time.

[VulgarPoet]

22. I'm halfway ashamed that I tried, tbh. Restocking my ignore list at this point, my mind is made up.

eom

[Jester Messiah]

23. That doesn't counter the lies and bullshit though.

It's still out there, potentially unaddressed, to be found by people who might take it as true.

[corkhead]

25. You have a good point. I will attempt to engage that poster in dialogue but they don't respond

and move on to post another bullshit OP without responding to any of the replies, they aren't interested in what I or anyone else has to say anyway. I wish I had more time and patience to play whack-a-mole with the repeat offending trolls but I don't. Many of them hide behind the skirt of their protected group where I can't reply without a hide or being locked out.

I guess I am leaving it to others to do that dirty work with the obnoxious ones on my ignore list.

[Buns_of_Fire]

56. After 10+ years here, I first started using the Ignore List on Thanksgiving day.

It has made all the difference. And even though my list is probably shorter than many here (around fifteen, give or take), I immediately found that fortifying myself with mass quantities was no longer necessary.

Will they be there forever? Probably not. But I'll wait until November and burn that bridge when I get to it.

[corkhead]

58. 8 years ago I had a list and let them all out of ignore prison once Obama was the certain nominee

I wasn't bothered by anyone enough since to use the ignore feature until the primary season heated up again. Funny thing is, the rate of recidivism is noticeably high because I recognize many of the same obnoxious characters from 8 years ago.

They must hibernate between election seasons because I don't recall seeing them when it wasn't primary season. I find that curious. I will let them all out again once the nominee is determined and most likely I won't hear from them again until the next primary season.

[bigwillq]

4. It will be over soon (nt)

[JaneyVee]

5. My cousin works for Goldman and...

Attended one of her speeches. It was 45 minutes of how to help global poverty by giving access to capital for underserved communities here in the US and places like sub-saharan Africa where they are perpetually in poverty due to no access to capital.

[azurnoir]

8. doesn't the welfare of Hillary's grandchildren depend on

Goldman-Sachs remaining financially very profitable because their Father is employed by them? So we're to believe she'll do anything that could work against the financial future of her own grandchildren?


oh and nice story there

[JaneyVee]

11. I dont think the Clinton's have to worry about money for generations.

[azurnoir]

14. oh okay so you confess that they're 1%ers I take it?

still any attempt to rein in Goldman works against the interests of her own family

[Cryptoad]

47. Nice to see more and more

people with money teaching others how that money can be used to serve the undeserved......

[Phlem]

57. Oh FFS

[Hiraeth]

9. cool third hand story you got there.

[JaneyVee]

13. Thanks, he also said it was very wonkish and well received.

[whatchamacallit]

10. Cool story

If true, there is no reason not to release the transcripts, as they would only enhance her credibility and respectability.

[JaneyVee]

12. Nothing will ever make them happy.

She hands over 5, they'll want 10. She gives 10, they ask for more.

No need for her to sink to the desperation of a flailing campaign looking for a life raft in order to appease them.

[whatchamacallit]

18. Of course...

Embarrassingly weak excuse you're peddling there.

[leftynyc]

39. It's the perfect response to you

and all the others. You'll never be satisfied, that much is glaringly obvious. I hope she doesn't jump through meaningless hoops for those who will just demand she jumps through a dozen more. Waste of time.

[whatchamacallit]

41. Well that's bullshit

You don't know me. You don't know what it requires to satisfy me on this, so don't project a lie onto me and others to cover Hillary's ass.

[snagglepuss]

27. I say your spreading a steaming pile of horse poop.

If that is what she said that speech would have been made public months ago.

[flor-de-jasmim]

51. then she should release the transcript and share the goodwill!

[Jackie Wilson Said]

53. I cant imagine a speech that includes anything along the lines of:

"Elect me president and I will make sure you multi millionaires pay less taxes"

or


"Elect me president and I will make it easier for you to scam the public"

It is far more likely she gives speeches about exactly what your cousin said. Which is why I dont understand why she doesn't release the transcripts.

Even if Hillary Clinton was a bought and paid for corporate or wall street person, there is no way she gives speeches admitting it.

[NCTraveler]

6. A lot more is being discussed than what you highlight.

What you highlight is actually a grain of sand with respect to the beach when it comes to discussion.

[Gregorian]

7. It's simple: She's good for fracking, and he's good for humans.

Don't expect corporations to do a thing for the people.

[corkhead]

20. It's not their job. Their job is to maximze stockholder value.

which is why they should not be considered people.

[Highway61]

21. republican light

She is what a republican USED to be....many moons ago. Now we have nutcases.

[grossproffit]

16. The media skewered HC during the 2008 primaries.

Just a few words and phrased used "shrill, witch, take her out behind the woodshed, Chelsea being pimped out. whore," etc. Print media was even worse.

[Flying Squirrel]

24. Careful...

...saying you're sick and tired of BS can be misconstrued as saying you'll vote for Trump these days.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511418421

[SoapBox]

26. It's all part of Camp Weathervane and Corrupt the Record tactics...

Confuse and distract from all the CRAP that she is involved in...never talk issues.

She is an absolute MESS and not Presidential material.

NO More Clintons EVER.

[NRaleighLiberal]

29. Certainly sick and tired of your BS.

[Fuddnik]

46. As El Sid would say......

[StandingInLeftField]

32. You win!

It only took two days to make my ignore list!

Congrats, and welcome to DU!

[leftynyc]

40. That's why they're so stunned

when someone doesn't agree with them.

[olddots]

42. nice try skippy

[Fuddnik]

49. Figured all that out in just 2 days huh?

[LibDemAlways]

31. She didn't deliver those speeches to empty rooms.

Plenty of people heard those speeches, and a good investigative journalist (an oxymoron in this day and age) could track any number of them down and ask them to describe what she said. It isn't brain surgery. There may or may not be a good story there depending on the content of the speeches. But if she continues to stonewall, it's a safe bet she doesn't want the general public to know. I hope some journalist with a smidgen of integrity eventually steps up to the plate, digs deep, and sheds light on what she was paid millions for.

[INdemo]

34. The journalist that you are hoping for may be a Right Wing Sympathizer

and if so and GFB Hillary wins the nomination thats when the shit hits the fan.
But hopefully she is not the nominee..

[navarth]

44. your post got alerted

just so you know.

[SecularMotion]

37. Do you still keep in touch with OMC?

[zentrum]

38. The media and the corporations

……she gave speeches to (most of them) are on the same page and don't want the corruption underlying our political system to be exposed. They'll all at the same dinner parties and hoping to marry their kids into each other's families.

Read Jane Meyers article on the Kochs in the New Yorker, or Lee Fang on the Intercept, and others, for real that good old time investigative journalism.

[Fuddnik]

50. Another one!

Out, blasted spot!!!!!

[ScreamingMeemie]

52. I am also a proud member of Generation X who voted for Bernie.

Let's be calm and see the primaries play out. Until then, off to the ignore list with you. Enjoy the company of both Hillary and Bernie supporters there who also had issues with being able to handle the primary forum. See you in November.

[johnp3907]

54. I'm sick of him too.