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Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:08 PM Mar 2016

Stop scapegoating African Americans for Hillary's failure to connect with Progressive grassroots

within our party!

Progressive African Americans support Sanders while older, centrist white voters support Hillary so it is NOT a racial divide but an ideological rift!

Sanders is winning states (both Democratic states and states that lean Republican in the general election) where the Democrats in that state are more progressive, more enthusiastic, and younger.

Hillary is winning in states where the Democrats are less progressive. End of story. Stop scapegoating African American Democrats as if they all think, vote, and act as a homogenous collective!

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JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
1. Conservative church-going African Americans supported Clinton in the south
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:15 PM
Mar 2016

Those conservatives were the majority voters for her and not so much the centrist white voters. So, you're right--AAs don't think, vote and act like a collective. Bernie is expected to do much better with non-conservative AAs.

 

Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
3. Excellent point. I bet Hillary's winning among church-goers of ALL races and Sanders is winning
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:29 PM
Mar 2016

among atheists of ALL races. That's a good way of seeing this without resorting to racial stereotyping.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
7. Actually it is an age thing...
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:39 PM
Mar 2016

African Americans support former Secretary of State Clinton by more than a 3-to-1 margin nationwide, but among young blacks 18 to 29 years old, that margin shrinks to 46 percent for Clinton versus 33 percent for Sanders, according to recent Reuters/Ipsos polling.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-sanders-blacks-idUSMTZSAPEC2CG4VQ3S

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
10. I think it's a where do people get their news thing
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:25 PM
Mar 2016

People who get their news from television TEND to support Clinton.

People who get their news from the internet TEND to support Sanders.

Explains DU perfectly. Even though DUers mostly fall in the older age groups, they vote like the younger crowd of Reddit, because we are all getting news online.

JI7

(93,264 posts)
2. church is a cultural thing for many AAs . doesnt always
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:18 PM
Mar 2016

Indicate personal beliefs . But more about family and community.

JI7

(93,264 posts)
11. I'm the case of AA it can be more so just because of their history
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:25 PM
Mar 2016

And not having many places open to them.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
4. Yeah, I got thrown out of my church for having the temerity to date a man
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:30 PM
Mar 2016

I promptly said "fuck the church" and became a pagan. Maybe that's why I support Sanders.

But yeah no we're hardly homogenous.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
5. so you equate criticizing Hillary's cynical tactics to scapegoating the AA community?
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:32 PM
Mar 2016

interesting that

 

Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
6. No. I equate masking Hillary's electoral problems by imposing a false racial construct on what is an
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:37 PM
Mar 2016

ideological failure on the part of the Clinton campaign as racial scapegoating.

BlueMTexpat

(15,657 posts)
8. So Hillary won MA because
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:46 PM
Mar 2016

voters there are less "progressive?"

And AAs who support Hillary are NOT "progressive?"

Even when they are major icons of the CRM, not simply participants in a march or two?



NO Hillary supporter that I have seen on DU is scapegoating AAs for anything. As a matter of fact, some of the strongest, most vocal, reasonable, proudest, longtime progressive AA DUers who have NOT "felt the Bern" have been put on time-outs due to alert-stalking by "Not Hillary" supporters, not by Hillary supporters.

You really might want to take a look in the mirror.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
12. You have it backwards
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:26 PM
Mar 2016

Sanders supporters are the ones here saying that black voters have Stockholm Syndrome or cite the education rating in South Carolina to explain why black voters support Clinton.

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