2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMichigan could be game-changer for Clinton and Sanders
A loss in the Great Lakes State would portend weakness in other big industrial states like Ohio and lend credibility to the Clinton campaigns argument that hes unable to rebuild the diverse coalition of voters who powered Barack Obama to the presidency.
But a win in Michigan could give Sanders renewed momentum heading into other critical contests this month.
The Vermont senator, having lost by huge margins to Clinton in the South, has fallen far enough behind in convention delegates that hed have to bag three-fifths of remaining delegates just to break even with Clinton, according to the nonpartisan Cook Political Report. Delegates are divided proportionally in each state based on the primary results.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/03/08/michigan-primary-clinton-sanders-democrats/81489774/
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)n/t
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Just to break even? Impossible.
femmedem
(8,203 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Just saying.
Sanders people have been very silly to downplay Clinton's massive wins in the South. The margins have really put pressure on Sanders elsewhere. Had he put a dent in some of those Southern margins, he would be much better off.
But Clinton people would similarly be silly not to see a Michigan loss as a giant red flag.
Big night tonight.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and the back of the envelope math is not even 65 percent of delegates. that includes supers
If he wins, by a couple percentage points, supers will start to mull the future
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)That's all anyone needs to know. He's simply NOT going to be able to pull it off. This contest is all but over when you look at the numbers and DO THE MATH. Officially over? No, of course not. But it's clear that Bernie will not be the nominee.
JudyM
(29,241 posts)It's central to the issues that separate them, and she wants us to vote blindly.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)Anyone would think she actually wanted to be president...
JudyM
(29,241 posts)like her.
Win at any cost. Sell the country out to mega-corporations and other big money. She is one ethical, classy SOB. The anitipathy of Dem values.
This is the first time I have ever come anywhere close to saying this, about any Dem candidate: even if I have no choice but to vote for her in November, she will not be my president.
She has crossed the line on too many issues that matter.
eomer
(3,845 posts)The three-fifths claim comes from counting superdelegates, as the article explains it.
Here's the way the real race, which is a contest to win a majority of pledged delegates, breaks down as best I can tell:
Total pledged delegates: 4,051
Pledged delegates needed to win: 4,051 / 2 = 2,026
Pledged delegates decided so far:
Clinton: 663
Sanders: 459
O'Malley: 1?
Total: 1,123
Pledged delegates up for grabs: 4,051 - 1,123 = 2,928
Pledged delegates needed by Sanders: 2,026 - 459 = 1,567
Percentage needed by Sanders to clinch the pledged delegate contest: 1,567 / 2,928 = 53.5%
Pledged delegates needed by Clinton: 2,026 - 663 = 1,363
Percentage needed by Clinton to clinch the pledged delegate contest: 1,363 / 2,928 = 46.5%
Caveat: It's difficult to find the information needed for this kind of analysis since the MSM is intentionally not reporting on the pledged delegate race. So I may have an error in the above (like the number of pledged delegates O'Malley won?) and welcome any factual corrections.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)This is why we are not counting supers
eomer
(3,845 posts)And also for all your great work!