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retrowire

(10,345 posts)
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:02 AM Mar 2016

To all of you who want to remind us Bernie Supporters of the Delegate Count...

We know.

Yes, we already know. She's in the lead.

Tonight is still worth the celebration in spite of that for a few big reasons...

1. It proved that we and Bernie have the ability to flip a state that favored Hillary in less than a week.

2. It proved that Bernie is certainly going strong and none of this is wishful thinking.

and finally...

3. It signified a turning of tables. This is where the true shift begins.

So to all of you who keep posting the delegate counts as if we're unaware... We know why you're doing it, and it isn't because you think we're unaware.

I think it's because you're likely worried about Hillary.


She's running out of southern states fast. And those who were on the fence before Michigan may well just be joining the Bernie campaign soon.

Next Tuesday is likely Hillary's last good day. And judging by how fast we could turn a state like Michigan... I wonder how fast we could turn some states on Super Tuesday 2. Either way, I can say this with conviction, I've never felt more confident in the effect of me and my fellow volunteers for Bernie. Clearly, we are doing something right.

I'm very proud of what my fellow volunteers and I have achieved tonight. Good night for now.
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To all of you who want to remind us Bernie Supporters of the Delegate Count... (Original Post) retrowire Mar 2016 OP
Those posts went up as soon as Michigan got called. merrily Mar 2016 #1
Sounds like paid shills did some quick damage control. Wonder if that happened all over on liberal Cavallo Mar 2016 #8
Don't know. Only other place I post is JackpineRadicals.org, which is only for Bernie's merrily Mar 2016 #11
I'm just went there. I dont see the Bernie win thread. I'd like to celebrate with Bernie Supporters. Cavallo Mar 2016 #12
I posted on about 5 celebratory threads there. merrily Mar 2016 #13
VERY WELL SAID, my dear retrowire! CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2016 #2
And No. 4...IT'S THE MOMENTUM STUPID! angstlessk Mar 2016 #3
Thank you for your work! I really appreciate it. I have to work and support my family. Cavallo Mar 2016 #4
Wow. That was cold. merrily Mar 2016 #14
I'm sorry. I don't understand how that is cold? Cavallo Mar 2016 #21
I think it's an honest misunderstanding between the 2 of you a2liberal Mar 2016 #23
Thank you. I didn't realize it was read that way. Cavallo Mar 2016 #44
twas just a misunderstanding but questionseverything Mar 2016 #52
Yep and I actually was just considering I need to get a Bernie Sticker for my car. Cavallo Mar 2016 #53
i vote march 15th...i think bernie can win illinois questionseverything Mar 2016 #54
It's not cold - that 840high Mar 2016 #32
I have a very good feeling about this. n/t Cleita Mar 2016 #5
Me too Android3.14 Mar 2016 #36
Fuel to the fire RobertEarl Mar 2016 #6
I'm SO f$%&ing GLAD her bullshit lie re: the auto bailout did not pay off!! AzDar Mar 2016 #7
That's the great thing about Hillary, when things get tense she always finds a rake to step on. Bugenhagen Mar 2016 #28
BREAKING NEWS: Bernie Sanders Has Now Won 9 of the Last 10 States Outside of the South! mhatrw Mar 2016 #9
How's Ohio looking now? Duppers Mar 2016 #10
It's looking very much possible. nt retrowire Mar 2016 #16
Fingers crossed and another donation send. Duppers Mar 2016 #22
Nice image. Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #17
Thanks. Duppers Mar 2016 #20
In Ohio ---> Sanders sues in Ohio to protect young and minority voters Petrushka Mar 2016 #25
Thank you. I saw that. Bernie is proving over and over Duppers Mar 2016 #30
PROUD to be part of the Michigan "bump" ! John Poet Mar 2016 #15
Polls In Michigan.... LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #26
You called Rick snyder the Lead Poisoner . How about Poisoner in Chief? pdsimdars Mar 2016 #47
That Would Work... LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #48
heh heh Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #29
This could very well portend the shift in momentum... virgdem Mar 2016 #18
IMO Maine did. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #24
Very true,but the difference between Maine and Michigan.. virgdem Mar 2016 #59
It's going to motivate Bernie's people to volunteer more, and to give a little money Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #19
Agreed, close races are necessary to encourage donations. My parents were so sure Hillary would win anotherproletariat Mar 2016 #27
hopefully you told them that would be illegal questionseverything Mar 2016 #55
Yes it will Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #31
I doubt March 15 will be Clinton's last good day. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #33
now vp must be warren captainarizona Mar 2016 #34
LOL: "She's running out of southern states fast" emsimon33 Mar 2016 #35
looking at the results in Michigan etherealtruth Mar 2016 #39
I think that you will start to see this pattern change as the primary moves west emsimon33 Mar 2016 #49
Welp... Basement Beat Mar 2016 #43
Bernie would do well... WiffenPoof Mar 2016 #37
I agree that the win last night was big. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #38
But a 1.7% win is supposed to essentially be a tie, isn't it? randome Mar 2016 #40
no. retrowire Mar 2016 #46
"Clearly, we are doing something right" dana_b Mar 2016 #41
If Bernie continues winning tradionally Democratic-voting states, he could still pull it out IF Vinca Mar 2016 #42
They show us their true colors pdsimdars Mar 2016 #45
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Mar 2016 #50
217 delegate lead. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #51
We know. retrowire Mar 2016 #56
Super Tuesday will be Bernie Day. Uglystick Mar 2016 #57
Me too, very proud of Bernie and all of us helping him. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #58

merrily

(45,251 posts)
1. Those posts went up as soon as Michigan got called.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:05 AM
Mar 2016

I thought that was pretty crappy, though par for the course so far. Says a lot, I think. Can't give your fellow DUers backing an underdog 2 fucking minutes to celebrate in peace.

I haven't congratulated Hillary, but I would not have dreamt of posting a downer OP about her here the nights she won.

Cavallo

(348 posts)
8. Sounds like paid shills did some quick damage control. Wonder if that happened all over on liberal
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:13 AM
Mar 2016

sites. Just saying. It sounds like a campaign move and not an honest response from Hillary supporters. I think they'd post that but not immediately like that.

Karl Rove talked about millions he was spending on internet 8 years ago. Internet is too big of a voter hub to be ignored. I think they'd have to be here.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
11. Don't know. Only other place I post is JackpineRadicals.org, which is only for Bernie's
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:18 AM
Mar 2016

supporters.


Sure didn't happen there!

Cavallo

(348 posts)
12. I'm just went there. I dont see the Bernie win thread. I'd like to celebrate with Bernie Supporters.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:19 AM
Mar 2016

merrily

(45,251 posts)
13. I posted on about 5 celebratory threads there.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:23 AM
Mar 2016

I can't imagine imagine why you are not seeing any. Did you look in the All Things Bernie forum?

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
3. And No. 4...IT'S THE MOMENTUM STUPID!
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:07 AM
Mar 2016

Damn, That Feels Good, Been Wanting To Post That All Night

Cavallo

(348 posts)
4. Thank you for your work! I really appreciate it. I have to work and support my family.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:09 AM
Mar 2016

I have deep gratitude for you being there working for Bernie.

Cavallo

(348 posts)
21. I'm sorry. I don't understand how that is cold?
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:41 AM
Mar 2016

I commute 30 miles that takes an hour each way if I'm lucky and on a good day I get home 11 and 1/2 hours after I leave for work.

How am I cold for thanking someone for working on Bernies Campaign?

a2liberal

(1,524 posts)
23. I think it's an honest misunderstanding between the 2 of you
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:00 AM
Mar 2016

I think merrily read into your "I have to work and support my family" an implication that Sanders volunteers are lazy bums who don't work. It doesn't seem to me that you meant it that way, but that you meant it more as an "excuse" for not being able to volunteer more.

Sorry if I got either of you wrong, just wanted to diffuse tensions! :-D

Cavallo

(348 posts)
44. Thank you. I didn't realize it was read that way.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:35 PM
Mar 2016

If I even worked in the city I lived in, I could volunteer. I didn't mean anyone is lazy.

questionseverything

(11,620 posts)
52. twas just a misunderstanding but
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:10 PM
Mar 2016

can ya slap a sticker on your car or even shoe polish a BERNIE in your window?

anything to help keep the conversation going helps

encouraging other supporters work (as you did with your thank you) is great too!!!!

Cavallo

(348 posts)
53. Yep and I actually was just considering I need to get a Bernie Sticker for my car.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:27 PM
Mar 2016

I will also be at my caucus supporting Bernie on March 26th.

questionseverything

(11,620 posts)
54. i vote march 15th...i think bernie can win illinois
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:36 PM
Mar 2016

the first bernie "sign" i saw here was months ago and it was shoe polish all over a mini van's windows...people were waving and smiling to the driver.....so helping bernie can be fun too!

we can do this!



 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
36. Me too
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 06:00 AM
Mar 2016

That was a very nice "surprise" for Clinton, but I'm just pleased as punch to see regular folks twisting The Man's nose.

I'm going to the rich man's house.
Gonna take back what he done stole from me
Gonna take back my dignity
Gonna take back my humanity
- Anne Feeney


 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
7. I'm SO f$%&ing GLAD her bullshit lie re: the auto bailout did not pay off!!
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:10 AM
Mar 2016

Go, Bernie... GO!!!

Bugenhagen

(151 posts)
28. That's the great thing about Hillary, when things get tense she always finds a rake to step on.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:16 AM
Mar 2016

I look forward to many more blunders in the near future.

Duppers

(28,468 posts)
22. Fingers crossed and another donation send.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:42 AM
Mar 2016

Last edited Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:57 AM - Edit history (1)




Edited to add that Nina Turner will help him out there.

Duppers

(28,468 posts)
30. Thank you. I saw that. Bernie is proving over and over
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:17 AM
Mar 2016

that he's a fighter and that his campaign is well organized.


 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
15. PROUD to be part of the Michigan "bump" !
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:24 AM
Mar 2016



All their polls and all their delegate-count posts have been about trying to bring us down...

Well, I won't put much stock in polls after this,
or even a WHOLE BUNCH of polls...




Us Michigan folks don't care too much for being told
how we are 'going to vote',
nor for obvious pandering on the Flint water crisis...

Maybe others in the Midwest are like us!


LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
26. Polls In Michigan....
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:07 AM
Mar 2016

Don't mean shit. To be frank and honest as possible. These are the same media resources for the most part, that endorsed Rick Snyder -- the Lead Poisoner of Flint, Michigan.

Again, polls in Michigan don't mean shit. People do. And the People are sick and tired of Corporate Democrats and Corporate Republicans.

virgdem

(2,294 posts)
18. This could very well portend the shift in momentum...
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:31 AM
Mar 2016

that Bernie needs-a much needed psychological victory.

virgdem

(2,294 posts)
59. Very true,but the difference between Maine and Michigan..
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 05:05 PM
Mar 2016

is that Bernie was expected to win Maine and the MSM completely ignored the win. The Michigan win was not expected, with Bernie polling 20 points down, so the take away from that win is that he over performed and that changes the mindset and perception of both voters and, to some extent, the MSM. I only hope that Bernie can propel this important win into victories in the next slate of states to vote.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
27. Agreed, close races are necessary to encourage donations. My parents were so sure Hillary would win
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:11 AM
Mar 2016

the nomination easily that they put off making a donation to her campaign. When talking to my mom tonight, she said that both she and dad are giving $2700, and wanted to know if they could donate the same amount in my name.

Land of Enchantment

(1,217 posts)
31. Yes it will
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:21 AM
Mar 2016

and I am almost maxed out for donations but my spouse is not and we are not wealthy. We volunteer and phone bank and all our darling millenials (with the exception of one nephew who poses for selfies holding weapons while draped in our flag) are with us. i am so proud of the younger generations and they are not shy.



Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
33. I doubt March 15 will be Clinton's last good day.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:36 AM
Mar 2016

I'm not convinced Clinton won't do well in Arizona (March 22), New York (April 19), Maryland and Pennsylvania (April 26), California and New Jersey and New Mexico (June 7) and Washington DC (June 14). Not to mention Hawaii and Puerto Rico.

Especially if she wins big on March 15 (and bumps her delegate lead up to 350+), which would impact the results in the states mentioned above. Sanders needs to win at least a couple of states on the 15th (3 of the 5 have similar demographics to Michigan).

Every state being proportional makes overcoming a delegate deficit of 200+ mighty difficult.

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
35. LOL: "She's running out of southern states fast"
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 04:48 AM
Mar 2016

She would be doing great if she were running for the presidency of the Confederate States of America. Most of the states she has won so far (her wins in Nevada and Massachusetts have clouds over them) will go Republican probably throughout the rest of my life.

Simply out, she can not win the general election which begs the question why the DNC and establishment Dems support her unless their corporate masters would rather have a Republican in the White House.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
39. looking at the results in Michigan
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 06:40 AM
Mar 2016

(I voted for Sanders, but it was essentially a flip of the coin decision for me ... the net sums of Sanders / Clinton's positives and negatives are essentially equal to me)

Looking at the voting patterns in Michigan Sanders won the rural white vote handily .... Clinton won the urban and suburban vote as well as the votes of people of color.


This map illustrates the breakdown of how people in Michigan voted. Its very interesting and (at least in Michigan) highlights an urban vs rural divide.
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/michigan

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
49. I think that you will start to see this pattern change as the primary moves west
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:53 PM
Mar 2016

and northeast... . I hope that the African Americans stop voting against their own interests and start voting for Bernie. Hillary will drop them as soon as they are not props in her photo ops.

Basement Beat

(659 posts)
43. Welp...
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:38 AM
Mar 2016

It is "easier" to shout and yell and claim everything is burning from the ground up from the sidelines when your party isn't "leading" the country. The republicans have their advanced doctorate when it comes to that.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
38. I agree that the win last night was big.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 06:31 AM
Mar 2016

I also know Clinton grew her delegate count.

Both seem to be pretty big and not worthy of dismissal.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
40. But a 1.7% win is supposed to essentially be a tie, isn't it?
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:05 AM
Mar 2016

Seriously, congratulations to Senator Sanders and his supporters. But I don't think bringing up the 'delicate matter' of the delegate counts means 'worry'. It still comes down to math in the end.
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retrowire

(10,345 posts)
46. no.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:44 PM
Mar 2016

hillary's 0.3 points in Iowa was a tie.

Bernie's 1.2 points in Michigan is 4 times larger than that and outside the MOE.

plus when you count all the problems that happened with Iowa's caucuses and the undeniable fact that Dr. Andy (hill2016) McGuire refused any recount despite many protests, you have to admit that the final score there was fishy at best.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
41. "Clearly, we are doing something right"
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:09 AM
Mar 2016

Hell yes we are!!

The post of the night! Bravo!!

Vinca

(53,392 posts)
42. If Bernie continues winning tradionally Democratic-voting states, he could still pull it out IF
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:14 AM
Mar 2016

superdelegates sided with the voters. Give us back our democracy!

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
45. They show us their true colors
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:39 PM
Mar 2016

They can't run on the issues, they can't run on her history, all they have are lies, smears and dirty tricks. And they're going for another GOP standard . . voter suppression.
Why doesn't she just take the obvious step and run as a Republican?

 

Uglystick

(88 posts)
57. Super Tuesday will be Bernie Day.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:05 PM
Mar 2016

Clean sweep, this one.

Yes, even FL and NC decided that Clinton is a big fat (R)eject, so they will be going en-masse for Bernie.

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