UPDATE: Hillary prevaricating at the Hearings? (plus, ignored Obama'sOrders:Ban Blumenthal )

[amborin]

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although the Obama White House believed Blumenthal had spread false rumors about Obama during the 2008 campaign, and although Obama had banned Blumenthal from any State Dept business, SOS Clinton kept up a steady and solicited correspondence with Blumenthal behind Obama's back:

And despite ample evidence on the public record for months that Clinton repeatedly asked Blumenthal to keep sending her updates on Libya and other matters, she repeated previous assertions that his advice was unsolicited.

"I did not ask him to send me the information that he sent me," Clinton said.

"You wrote to him, 'Another keeper, thanks' and 'Please keep them coming....Greetings from Kabul and thanks for keeping this stuff coming,'" Gowdy shot back.

Clinton then shifted slightly, conceding that she urged Blumenthal to keep up the flow. "They started out unsolicited and, as I said, some were of interest," she said.

snip

.....You said they were -- you said they were unsolicited," the chairman said.

While Clinton minimized the significance of what Blumenthal sent along, she did not dismiss it entirely, and she defended forwarding the information to aides who sometimes scrambled to respond to the unusual dispatches.

"Some of it I found interesting....

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....Allegations relating to Blumenthal's role in that campaign are what kept him from joining the State Department in 2009. Obama aides were convinced that Blumenthal spread false personal and policy rumors about Obama during the battle between Clinton and Obama for the Democratic nomination. While Clinton had more authority to name State Department personnel than any other Obama Cabinet member, Blumenthal was blacklisted--effectively banished by the White House.

When Gowdy asked about Blumenthal's rejection, Clinton didn't dispute it, but said she couldn't remember or didn't know who at the White House put the kibosh on her regular correspondent.

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Hillary was taking State Dept Advice from Blumenthal and others with Business interests in Libya:

Plus, all the while, Blumenthal was working for the Clinton Foundation:

International New York Times May 20, 2015 Wednesday

Clinton friend's memos on Libya draw scrutiny to politics and business

NICHOLAS CONFESSORE and MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT
Clintons last occupied the White House, Sidney Blumenthal cast himself in varied roles:

speechwriter, in-house intellectual and press corps whisperer. …..Now, as Hillary Rodham Clinton embarks on her second presidential bid, Mr. Blumenthal's service to the Clintons is again under the spotlight. ……

….. a series of memos that Mr. Blumenthal - who was not an employee of the State Department - wrote to Mrs. Clinton about events unfolding in Libya before and after the death of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi.

According to emails obtained by The New York Times, Mrs. Clinton, who was secretary of state at the time, took Mr. Blumenthal's advice seriously, forwarding his memos to senior diplomatic officials in Libya and Washington and at times asking them to respond. Mrs. Clinton continued to pass around his memos even after other senior diplomats concluded that Mr. Blumenthal's assessments were often unreliable.

But an examination by The Times suggests that Mr. Blumenthal's involvement was more wide-ranging and more complicated than previously known, embodying the blurry lines between business, politics and philanthropy that have enriched and vexed the Clintons.

While advising Mrs. Clinton on Libya, Mr. Blumenthal, who had been barred from a State Department job by aides to President Obama, was also employed by her family's philanthropy, the Clinton Foundation, to help with research, ''message guidance'' and the planning of commemorative events, according to foundation officials. During the same period, he also worked for organizations that helped lay the groundwork for Mrs. Clinton's 2016 campaign.

Much of the Libya intelligence that Mr. Blumenthal passed on to Mrs. Clinton appears to have come from a group of business associates he was advising as they sought to win contracts from the Libyan transitional government.

The venture, which was ultimately unsuccessful, involved other Clinton friends, a private military contractor and one former C.I.A. spy seeking to get in on the ground floor of the new Libyan economy.

The projects …..would have required State Department permits, but foundered before the business partners could seek official approval.

The Libya venture came together in 2011 when David L. Grange, a retired Army general, joined with a new New York firm, Constellations Group, to pursue business leads in Libya. Constellations Group, led by a professional fund-raiser and philanthropist named Bill White, was to provide the leads……

[NWCorona]

1. Hillary doesn't respect Obama one bit and she will throw him under the bus the first chance she gets

This Blumenthal issue only further proves that.

[PonyUp]

3. Of course she will. Hillary only respects Hillary. n/t

[Uncle Joe]

40. To be honest, I don't believe Hillary truly respects Hillary, it's one of those

many ethical or moral trade-offs over HRC's political career, compartmentalized in her collection of psychological Matryoshka dolls.



Self respect has been miniaturized to emotionally facilitate Hillary's cynical, dishonest political and policy actions against her opponents both foreign and domestic all for the sake of power and money.

There are simply too many examples of emotional disconnection to the ideal of integrity and the suffering of others.

[noiretextatique]

5. She criticized him on foreign policy

Then she turns and points a finger at Bernie. Hypocrite.

[NWCorona]

7. Yep! She said he does stupid stuff

This is after she served under Obama but now they are blood brother and sister lol

[noiretextatique]

8. I hear the Obamas

Are not particularly fond of the Clintons.

[NWCorona]

9. Especially Michelle from what I've read

Valerie Jarrett as well!

[polly7]

11. I think Michelle is a very intuitive person.

It would be a difficult position to be in, having to watch your husband work alongside with someone whose motivations you maybe didn't trust completely.

[noiretextatique]

12. Michelle is astute

I can totally understand why she would dislike a back-stabber like Clinton.

[NWCorona]

14. I really admire Michelle

That is a strong woman! She probably be checking Obama on the daily lol

[polly7]

17. I think she's fantastic and yes .... very strong! And gorgeous. nt.

[NWCorona]

19. Strength, beauty and intellect

That's a winning combination!

[Plucketeer]

42. Absolutely agree

THERE'S a gal president when we want one!

[Jarqui]

39. If she makes it to the general election, she will find a lot more faults

with Obama. She can't afford to lose the black vote right now but as she moves to the center in the general election, her team with have studied where the weathervane shifts should take place to maximize the vote for her.

[NWCorona]

41. So true!

She already started pivoting when she thought Bernie was finished but then Michigan happened lol!

[Wilms]

2. She is worse than I thought.

This campaign is really shining a light on the nations second leading crime family.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

4. Yikes!

[leveymg]

53. Details about the group of Disaster Capitalists profiting from "restructured" Libya

As Secretary of State, she played an essential role in creating Blumenthal & Associate's profit opportunity. In addition to her work with "disaster mitigation" companies, she also approved weapons sales to the Saudis and Qataris who were arming the rebels across the region. Did someone say "conflict of interest"?

And, some people wonder why we oppose her nomination!

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/19/us/politics/clinton-friends-libya-role-blurs-lines-of-politics-and-business.html?_r=0
The Libya venture came together in 2011 when David L. Grange, a retired Army major general, joined with a newly formed New York firm, Constellations Group, to pursue business leads in Libya. Constellations Group, led by a professional fund-raiser and philanthropist named Bill White, was to provide the leads. Mr. Grange’s company, Osprey Global Solutions, based in North Carolina, would put “boots on the ground to see if there was an opportunity to do business,” Mr. Grange said in an interview.

The men had little experience in Libya. Exactly how Mr. White was to procure leads in Libya is unclear. He spent much of his career as an executive at the Intrepid Sea, Air & Space Museum, and had raised money for politicians, businesses and charities. His biography also describes Mr. White as a consultant for Aquahydrate, a bottled-water company whose backers include Ron Burkle, the billionaire investor who had been a close friend of the Clintons.

“We were thinking, ‘O.K., Qaddafi is dead, or about to be, and there’s opportunities,’ ” Mr. White said in a brief telephone interview. He added, “We thought, ‘Let’s try to see who we know there.’ ”
Continue reading the main story
Inside the Documents

What Sidney Blumenthal’s memos to Hillary Clinton said, and how they were handled: In 2011 and 2012, Mrs. Clinton received at least 25 memos about Libya from Mr. Blumenthal, many of which were passed on to her aides.

Mr. White declined to answer follow-up questions about what role Mr. Blumenthal was playing in the business venture. But Mr. Grange described Mr. Blumenthal as an adviser to Mr. White’s company, along with two other associates: Tyler Drumheller, a colorful former Central Intelligence Agency official, and Cody Shearer, a longtime Clinton friend.

“I just know that he was working with the team to work on business development,” Mr. Grange said of Mr. Blumenthal.

In the spring of 2011, Mr. Blumenthal, Mr. Drumheller and Mr. Shearer were helping plan what was to be Mr. Grange’s first trip to Libya, according to emails stolen by a Romanian hacker and published by Gawker and ProPublica in March. Mr. Blumenthal said he had been advised not to comment on the correspondence because the theft remained under investigation by the F.B.I.

In August, Mr. Grange signed a memorandum of understanding with two senior officials in the Libyan transitional government to provide “humanitarian assistance, medical services and disaster mitigation,” along with helping to train a new national police force.

[beedle]

6. This "Trying to be truthful"

doesn't seem to be Hillary's thing ... she should just stick to her 'poor me' shtick.

[BernieforPres2016]

10. Hillary is becoming more critical of Obama every day

Yesterday she was pushing the Obama administration to get tougher on TPP provisions. Of course until the campaign, she was supporting TPP.

[Jitter65]

15. When she agrees with the Pres. she is pandering. When she disagrees with his policy,

she is disrespectful of him. Folks, there is no more room on the wall. Stop throwing stuff!

[bvf]

35. Trouble is, she can do both things

on a single topic, depending on what day it is.

[AzDar]

59. Ayup.

[salinsky]

31. ...

Hillary is becoming more critical of Obama every day

Hey!

That's Bernie's job!

[Octafish]

13. THAT explains the private email server.

NSA won't find out about Sid now!

[amborin]

16. hoping someone can find more concerning the email from him

suggesting that SA was behind the Benghazi attack

[Octafish]

23. While there's a lot of money to be made via secret government...

...Democracy can't stand it.

Libyan Oil, Gold, and Qaddafi: The Strange Email Sidney Blumenthal Sent Hillary Clinton In 2011

By Avi Asher-Schapiro
Vice.com, January 12, 2016

Two weeks after France began bombing Libya, in March, 2011, Hillary Clinton's old friend and advisor Sidney Blumenthal passed her an intelligence memo that supposedly revealed France's true — and quite unflattering— motivations for toppling Libyan dictator Muammar Qaddafi. While France's then-President Nicolas Sarkozy publicly said he wished to free the Libyan people from tyranny, Blumenthal's memo argues that he was driven by a cocktail of less lofty incentives, including a desire for Libyan oil, and a fear that Qaddafi secretly planned to use his vast supply of gold to displace France's primacy in the region.

Libya watchers aren't so sure that Blumenthal was passing the US Secretary Of State solid intelligence. "For me, it's not credible," former French diplomat and Libya expert Patrick Haimzadeh told VICE News when asked about the Blumenthal memo. Haimzadeh worked at the French embassy in Tripoli from 2001 to 2004, and wrote the 2011 study In the Heart of Qaddafi's Libya. "In 2011, everyone was saying anything and everything about Libya," Haimzadeh said. "But in fact, no one really knew what was going on. At the time, the French intelligence services and the CIA were in the dark. For example, the French services said the war would last three days — in reality, it took eight months."

It appears that Clinton's office too was awash in Libya rumors. Nearly a third of all the emails she received on the security and political situation in Libya during her tenure as Secretary of State came from Blumenthal, a longtime Clinton associate who was not formally employed by the State Department. He was on the payroll of the Clinton Foundation, bringing in $10,000 a month as a consultant, while pursuing his own business interests in Libya. Blumenthal's emails to Clinton now have been made public in response to a FOIA lawsuit filed by VICE News.

Clinton's correspondence reveals that Blumenthal regularly sent her intelligence-cable-style updates on Libya that cited anonymous sources who claimed to be close to the country's political elites.

These briefs were prepared by Blumenthal's business partner and former CIA operative Tyler Drumheller, a consultant with plans to take advantage of economic opportunities in a post-war Libya. Both Drumheller and Blumenthal worked with a Libyan company called Osprey, a start-up that hoped to profit off medical and military contracts in the chaos after the war.

CONTINUED...

https://news.vice.com/article/libyan-oil-gold-and-qaddafi-the-strange-email-sidney-blumenthal-sent-hillary-clinton-in-2011

I'm hoping the answer is on the level. I fear it's "why" the missing 15 emails.

[amborin]

24. thanks, Octafish!

perhaps the really incriminating email, however, is the one revealed by Guccifer, the hacker, in
which B intimated or stated that SA was behind the Benghazi attack. Supposedly, it
would be the clincher....

[polly7]

37. Great info, Octafish. Thank you. nt.

[antigop]

46. what, exactly, was Blumenthal doing for the Clinton Foundation?

From the article:
"He was on the payroll of the Clinton Foundation, bringing in $10,000 a month as a consultant, while pursuing his own business interests in Libya."

[leveymg]

45. DU thread yesterday w/information re classified emails regarding KSAs role in the Stevens killing>

Here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1462278

[VulgarPoet]

18. Mr. Gerstein, your bus has arrived...

I'm certain he'll be smeared as either a right-wing journalist or as "one of Bernie's attack dogs" any second now...

[Baitball Blogger]

20. .

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At what point will her supporters realize that there is no end to these examples, and if we can't trust her, world leaders won't trust her either.

[monicaangela]

26. They'll wake up when she loses to Trump, Cruz, or whatever republican is running

Against her in the General Election. So sad to watch.

[libtodeath]

21. Rules and agreements are only for the little people.

[monicaangela]

29. Yep,

She appears to have Leona Helmsley syndrome.

[ebayfool]

34. Nailed it! Leona Helmsley syndrome!

I knew there was someone she reminded me of - that was a perfect tag!

[pdsimdars]

72. Hope she gets sent to the same "treatment center" as Leona did. She needs to take the cure.

[ConsiderThis_2016]

22. The Clintons were not defeated in 2008...

...They just decided to use the backdoor.

[SoapBox]

25. Exactly...No More Clintons.

[Jefferson23]

27. I don't know, I have seen photos posted here that prove concretely Obama and Clinton are

super duper close and all has been forgiven. After all she was his SoS and that too
is proof.

I laughed but what can ya do, people actually believe things like that.

[CoffeeCat]

32. An article just hot off the presses reveals a not-so rosy scenario

Huge article just released from The Atlantic. Obama aids are quoted as saying that Obama was, "rip-shit angry" at Hillary Clinton for publicily criticizing Obama stating that his foreign-policy actions would be guided by a personal mantra, "Don't do stupid shit."

I distinctly recall this. After Obama said the "Don't do stupid shit" remark, Hillary immediately took to The Atlantic to criticize Obama. Clinton wanted a more "interventionist" mindset. Translation--Pantsuit McWarington wanted more war; while Obama didn't.

Here's an excerpt from the new Atlantic article (April 2016 issue, link below).

(Interesting that stuff like this is leaking out now. I think shit is going down).

Obama’s reticence frustrated Power and others on his national-security team who had a preference for action. Hillary Clinton, when she was Obama’s secretary of state, argued for an early and assertive response to Assad’s violence. In 2014, after she left office, Clinton told me that “the failure to help build up a credible fighting force of the people who were the originators of the protests against Assad … left a big vacuum, which the jihadists have now filled.” When The Atlantic published this statement, and also published Clinton’s assessment that “great nations need organizing principles, and ‘Don’t do stupid stuff’ is not an organizing principle,” Obama became “rip-shit angry,” according to one of his senior advisers. The president did not understand how “Don’t do stupid shit” could be considered a controversial slogan. Ben Rhodes recalls that “the questions we were asking in the White House were ‘Who exactly is in the stupid-shit caucus? Who is pro–stupid shit?’ ” The Iraq invasion, Obama believed, should have taught Democratic interventionists like Clinton, who had voted for its authorization, the dangers of doing stupid shit. (Clinton quickly apologized to Obama for her comments, and a Clinton spokesman announced that the two would “hug it out” on Martha’s Vineyard when they crossed paths there later.)

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525/

[Jefferson23]

38. Thanks, I read that and yea..lots about that article is very interesting and the timing of its

release.

I am not sure why anyone thinks they would need to be friends and or
even have respect for each other in order for her to be the SoS. That
would presume a rather simplistic view of the presidency and politics
in general.

[CoffeeCat]

28. Does anyone know if the White House knew about Hillary Clinton's personal server?

The reason that we know about Hillary's private email server--is because a hacker from the Ukraine hacked into Blumenthal's email and found the correspondence between Blumenthal and Hillary Clinton.

I'm wondering if Obama found out about the server, the same way that we did. It was revealed publicly after the hacker released private emails and documents from movie starts, as well as Blumenthal.

Does anyone know if Obama knew about Clinton's private email server?

[monicaangela]

33. According to an article I read he did not know about her private server

But did know she had a private email address:

President Obama said he first learned “through news reports” that Hillary Clinton used a private email system when she was his secretary of state. But it turns out he did know she used a private email address, at least for some official business. The White House now says the two leaders traded emails and “the president was aware of her email address.”

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/03/obama-on-clintons-emails/

[leveymg]

47. He was asked on 60 Minutes if he had authorized it. He said no.

Latest response from the WH:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/02/01/press-briefing-press-secretary-josh-earnest-2012016

Feb 1, 2016 - "The President was aware of Secretary Clinton's email address, the two did exchange emails but the President I think, not surprisingly, was not aware of the existence of Secretary Clinton's private server,"

[malletgirl02]

58. So the only reason

we know about Hilary's private server was due to a hacker? So much for the claims the server never been hacked.

[bbgrunt]

30. Clinton will throw Obama under the bus in a heartbeat if she becomes potus

[CoffeeCat]

36. But she'll use him up during the campaign

like a used-car salesman uses smarmy tactics.

She's something, all right.

[zentrum]

43. Hillary

…..is first, foremost and only for Hillary. She's indifferent to the rules.

[Duval]

44. She is an accomplished liar.

My husband and I just voted in NC, for Bernie!

[antigop]

48. what, exactly, was Blumenthal doing for the Clinton Foundation?

From the article:
"He was on the payroll of the Clinton Foundation, bringing in $10,000 a month as a consultant, while pursuing his own business interests in Libya."

[amborin]

49. please see the material added to the OP

appears helping with messaging and her upcoming campaign

[Babel_17]

50. Adds to the larger picture of how well Secretary Clinton abides to agreements

And as she crossed the administration on this, their obligation to defend her is affected. She's their former Secretary of State, but she also went somewhat rogue.

[amborin]

51. good point; Pres Obama rightly banned Blumenthal; yet Hillary was taking input from Blumenthal as

SoS. Mind-boggling that someone with zero credentials would be providing input to the SoS. (raises the other question: what credentials did she have?)

And all the while that Blumenthal was providing input, he was a paid employee of the Clinton Foundation, with business interests in Libya.

Still, the really crucial question is: where is the email wherein it is stated that Saudi Arabia promoted the Benghazi attack?

[Babel_17]

55. Far too many legitimate questions

Let's start and end with the one about the transcripts. It best epitomizes so much of what Secretary Clinton did to herself to make her the wrong candidate for our party.

The very acts of these multiple self inflictions is beyond troubling. I'm not seeing much concern for consequences in those actions.

Off topic, but I wonder if the administration fears how far she'll go to defend her candidacy. Her campaign's advocates are calling the President Obama appointed Inspectors General biased just for poking around; what would the DOJ face from them if they end up thinking of grand juries for her subordinates?

[amborin]

57. "calling the President Obama appointed Inspectors General biased just for poking around"

leading to a schism in her base, no? this will be interesting

[Babel_17]

66. It doesn't help, but it might be the transcripts that contain the real snark

She might have really contrasted what the administration has done, vs. what she would do, in a way to look unappealing to the base of President Obama that she needs to get nominated.

[Merryland]

52. Is it possible

Hillary & Sid were more than, ahem, colleagues?

[amborin]

54. who knows; but the really troubling things are: she went behind Obama's back,

she went against his orders

she was taking input from an employee of Clinton Found

she was exchanging emails about highly sensitive State Dept affairs

the crucial email stating Saudi Arabia was behind the Benghazi attack is missing

[grasswire]

63. I would add one word to your list

She was taking "questionable" input from an employee of Clinton Found.

[hedda_foil]

75. Huma was being paid by the foundation too.

[Babel_17]

56. In a word, no

No offense, but suggesting that doesn't help this thread.

If "ahem" refers to doing favors for each other, that's another story, but I don't think that's how most people will read it.

People at their level deal in influence. Whether for the good of us all, or mostly themselves, or somewhere in between, is the question.

[JackRiddler]

60. The real "e-mail" scandal has always been what they say.

Not what server they were on!

[HereSince1628]

61. Breaking a WH rule to black-out Blumenthal isn't criminal, it's just insubordinate

Creating ( and or recreating digital documents that include sensitive material and knowingly moving it via an insecure environment is a violation of law.

One of those Reese Witherspoon movies about law school actually uses that distinction to as an illustration of what goes on in a law class.

[JackRiddler]

62. A policy to murder innocent people can also be legal.

I'm more concerned with policies that brought death and chaos to Libya, Honduras, Syria and Ukraine than I am with these precious laws of the national security complex that does not actually provide security but instead serves a war machine that creates the enemies against whom we "defend."

I'm more concerned about the new wars that will happen under Clinton (or a Rubio) than I am with whether her server is as legal as the State Department's.

"Sensitive material" is usually the dirt that the government wants hidden. Who made it sensitive? Are they in effect legislator and judge in one? An interesting legal tradition, if you think about it. Some official who was placed through some obscure project gets to determine on the spot whether a piece of paper is legal or illegal for another official to possess. It's hilarious that now Clinton, scourge of Assange, complains about overclassification, but that's real.

[HereSince1628]

64. Sensitive is hardly always dirt.

It can be and for State Dept usually is information about government/government advisors' positions/circumstances on the positions/circumstances of other goverments. It's also information that reveals a hidden source, especially a source in a foreign government.

That sort of sensitivity isn't decided upon by committee. It's present (or not) when a document is written. Things can indeed be born sensitive and thereby waiting to complete the formal classification process.

People whose work generates these sort of things, and a Secretary of State certainly generates these sorts of things, are made aware of this early in their job orientation.

[JackRiddler]

67. Maybe we're not disagreeing.

We're prioritizing different concerns.

[HereSince1628]

68. I think we do, the US government certainly will kill to protect it's interests.

US 'interests' are the interests of our Oligarchs. I've never met -any- American on the street hawking the murder of Honduran environmental activists.

The killing that US clandestine forces are more numerous than we know, and they aren't made public unless there is political capital to be gained.

Clinton's email troubles aren't really about killing people even as they indicate possible Saudi funding of operations that do just that. Her interests in forceful intervention is one of her neocon-like personality traits. And don't forget that the neocons originated with 'thinkers' who were Democrats, but who were 'tired of getting mugged'.

[JackRiddler]

69. Sure, SOS e-mails will not be about retail killing.

They will be about engineering it on country-wide scales. Through active "diplomacy."

[amborin]

73. raises serious questions abt judgement: why encourage emails from someone w/ biz interests in Libya?

who stands to gain?

separately, it seems criminal to prevaricate, as she did in these hearings. what else can one call it?

and, there's still the major issue of the one missing email--perhaps the one in which Blumenthal states that Saudi Arabia was behind the Behghazi attack

[amborin]

77. and surely she got the private server to hide what was going on

[grasswire]

65. excellent thread. thanks everyone.

Keep it up. We must not allow this crook in the WH.

[amborin]

70. thanks, everyone, for the great comments!

[amborin]

71. have to say this: all along i totally ignored the Benghazi issue and the hearings, etc. Then, when

all the evidence surfaced showing that Hillary totally owned the bombing of Libya (and its scary outcome), the issue of the emails became interesting.

and lo and behold, they reveal more very negative info about her: that she prevaricated during the hearing as the above conversation shows, and that she was disloyal to President Obama and went behind Obama's back to continue her correspondence with Blumenthal. Plus, they show that she was taking input from Blumenthal in her capacity as SoS, even though he had no credentials, worked for the Clinton Foundation, and had business interests in Libya. So, the emails reek on their own; but even more troubling is the possibility that she heard that Saudi Arabia was behind Behghazi but did not reveal this to anyone. That seems to be the one missing email.

[amborin]

76. HRC on record blatantly lying about her State Dept proceedings affecting lives of millions