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How can a GAY PERSON support Hillary any more/ (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 OP
I think it has something to do with HRC endorsed Clinton so we're supposed to march in lockstep VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author NCTraveler Mar 2016 #4
Are you gay? Metric System Mar 2016 #2
Are You?......... Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #8
My log cabin thoughts? Metric System Mar 2016 #10
Seems like it Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #11
YOU fucked up even worse with this OP. You should delete it. yardwork Mar 2016 #23
ALERT ON ME Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #26
The OP has gone too far, its very disappointing. Firebrand Gary Mar 2016 #31
I'm gay and have had great friends die of AIDS in the early 90s. My husband is long term beaglelover Mar 2016 #15
Oh, please Brosplain to me how I must see the error of my gays. ashtonelijah Mar 2016 #3
Because she apologized? Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #5
oh I have seen many of my fellow gays on facebook doubling down, calling us "Berniebros" m-lekktor Mar 2016 #6
What condescending tripe. Metric System Mar 2016 #7
So she fucked up Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #9
What???? beaglelover Mar 2016 #16
Listen............ Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #19
Cool story 'bro!!!! beaglelover Mar 2016 #22
Results LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #29
At this point, Hillary supporters have made it clear that they are my political opponents, Maedhros Mar 2016 #12
Corporatist Dems are complicit in this country's hard move right Broward Mar 2016 #13
She's apologized. Get over yourself! beaglelover Mar 2016 #14
That was her FIRST THOUGHT Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #17
How could a gay person not support this? BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #18
How dare you tell us how to think! yardwork Mar 2016 #20
First they used AAs and POCs, then women, and now our community. DURHAM D Mar 2016 #25
They've been on us for a while. We have Stockholm Syndrome. yardwork Mar 2016 #28
Stop. DURHAM D Mar 2016 #21
You defend Hillary Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #24
How old are you? nt DURHAM D Mar 2016 #27
Sheesh! ... NurseJackie Mar 2016 #30
GO NANCY!!!! Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #32
How could a gay person supporter her at all? BillZBubb Mar 2016 #33
Well the smell of death Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #35
I don't understand how ANYONE can support Hillary. basselope Mar 2016 #34
Gay here... MondoCane Mar 2016 #36
Goodbye, you're going on the ignore list! Firebrand Gary Mar 2016 #37
Raise the gay flag for Nancy!!! Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #38

Response to VulgarPoet (Reply #1)

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
8. Are You?.........
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:03 PM
Mar 2016

I have personally witnessed deaths from Aids
and found t your log cabin thoughts interesting.

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
23. YOU fucked up even worse with this OP. You should delete it.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:35 PM
Mar 2016

Your words here are far more insulting than Hillary's were today. I'm angry with Hillary, but you have gone too far.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
31. The OP has gone too far, its very disappointing.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:40 PM
Mar 2016

To suggest that gay people only support Hillary for LGBT stances is not only ignorant, it's HOMOPHOBIC!

beaglelover

(3,469 posts)
15. I'm gay and have had great friends die of AIDS in the early 90s. My husband is long term
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:27 PM
Mar 2016

HIV+. And we both support Hillary over Bernie 100%!!

ashtonelijah

(340 posts)
3. Oh, please Brosplain to me how I must see the error of my gays.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:58 PM
Mar 2016

Want to call me an Aunt Tom too?

Yes, I'm highly annoyed that she made an ignorant comment about AIDS. Yes, I want her to apologize a dozen more times. I want her to be forced into a Jeremiah Wright style moment where she has to explain to the country the truth about the Reagans and the AIDS crisis.

But if you think one moment of ignorance in relation to gay history, albeit one that really irks me, is going to make me switch candidates when I overwhelmingly support the majority of the things she says and her policy decisions, then you're being quite condescending, and dare I say, more than a little homophobic.

I disagree with her on TPP and marijuana legalization. If you think that I am so singularly defined by my sexuality they one misstep on gay history (not even a policy position) is going to make me switch candidates, then you really don't get gay people any better than she gets the history of Reagan and HIV. That does not make me a Log Cabin Republican.

She needs to apologize. And now, so do you.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
6. oh I have seen many of my fellow gays on facebook doubling down, calling us "Berniebros"
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:00 PM
Mar 2016

if we complain and getting real nasty about it. Many of us are furious as well but we never really liked her anyway and this just reinforces it.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
9. So she fucked up
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:05 PM
Mar 2016

and apologized for her delusion

Gee............. you go girl..........

Can't wait for you on the your sharp
thoughts on the world stage.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
19. Listen............
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:33 PM
Mar 2016

so you think stupidity bigoted thoughts from your leader
is cool................ well guess what..............

THIS IS GONNA GO VIRAL

and the media has no control over this
because they are not the ones that have control over
the internet.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
29. Results
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:39 PM
Mar 2016

On Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:30 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

So she fucked up
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1471086

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Rude and condescending personal attack on a minority. DU is better than this.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:36 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Personal attack, I'm voting Ichingcarpenter off the island! It's not nice and is harmful to the DU dialog.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: wtf?
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Hillary is a minority? I am lost.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
12. At this point, Hillary supporters have made it clear that they are my political opponents,
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:18 PM
Mar 2016

just like the Republicans are.

I treat them the same way: no need to engage with them, because they do not support liberal and progressive ideals and the can't be convinced to do so.

So let them vote for whomever they wish, and they can spare me their excuses.

Broward

(1,976 posts)
13. Corporatist Dems are complicit in this country's hard move right
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:23 PM
Mar 2016

on some key issues over the past 40 years. They are unquestionably part of the problem.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
17. That was her FIRST THOUGHT
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:29 PM
Mar 2016

About Nancy......... you don't get a redo.




Ridiculous stupid and denial is your reality.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
18. How could a gay person not support this?
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:33 PM
Mar 2016


and starting at 2:12 on this video:



Instead of this, from many years prior:



yardwork

(61,599 posts)
20. How dare you tell us how to think!
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:33 PM
Mar 2016

How dare a member of the privileged straight minority call members of a minority group names because we dare to think for ourselves. We don't need your permission for our thoughts and beliefs.

I am pissed at Hillary but this condescending shit makes me far angrier. How dare you!

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
28. They've been on us for a while. We have Stockholm Syndrome.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:38 PM
Mar 2016

Bullying is not a winning campaign strategy.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
21. Stop.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:34 PM
Mar 2016

I lost dozens of friends. In fact, I lost every single gay male friend of a certain age except one. I am talking about dozens and dozens of good men. Friends from NY, Chicago, Houston, Dallas, Oklahoma City, Denver, Santa Fe, LA, San Francisco, Boston, Philadelphia, Austin, Kansas City, etc. I could go on and on. I would list their names but you don't deserve to know.

Using them for sport is disgusting. Just stop it.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
33. How could a gay person supporter her at all?
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:42 PM
Mar 2016

She didn't evolve on their basic rights until the train had already left the station.

Her comments on DOMA were downright offensive. The only right wing talking point she left out was "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!".

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
34. I don't understand how ANYONE can support Hillary.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:43 PM
Mar 2016

The only argument I have EVER heard in her defense that is the least bit compelling is "it would be nice to have a woman president".

But that is not enough to overcome her poor foreign policy experience, poor economic experience and overall horrible record.

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