Just imagine a presidential race in 2016 between a socialist and a facsist

[morningfog]

There's no middle ground there. Imagine what the centrist party liners would do, from each side.

Imagine the debates. Imagine the media coverage.

[Scootaloo]

1. "Centrism" is all about capitulation to the right

Always has been, always will be.

[revbones]

3. Agreed.

When they keep pulling the overton window further right, and Democrats keep falling over themselves tro race for the new middle, even basic human decency starts to look "leftist"

[Cheese Sandwich]

4. Centrism creates Trumps by failing to ever address the misery building up among working class people

"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to Socialism or regression into Barbarism."
- Rosa Luxemburg

[Skwmom]

6. Centrism is Corporatism. n/t

[Gregorian]

10. I like that.

I put it a different way. But I like yours better because of something.

On a scale of democracy to tyranny, centrism is...

[Kalidurga]

2. This is my hope.

But, we might get a race between a Theocrat and a Secularist. I suppose that could be interesting too. But, then I would have to look at Cruz speak. I wouldn't listen, the volume would just go down as he is talking and back up when it's Bernie's turn.

[morningfog]

5. It would be interesting either way.

A secular humanist whose polices match his beliefs.

[Kalidurga]

16. Yeah a likable guy against one no one likes.

I wonder how that will play in the GE.

[Ken Burch]

7. This Victor Jara song illustrates such people

The title "Ni Chicha Ni Limona" (a Chilean expression which translates literally as "Neither beer nor lemonade", and which basically refers to fencesitters who won't make up their minds) was about people who claimed to support democracy but wouldn't defend the democratically elected Popular Unity government against the reactionaries who were already working with Nixon and Kissinger to stage a "free-market" fascist coup...the coup in which Victor and Salvador Allende would be killed)

Arrímese mas pa' ca
aquí donde el sol calienta,
si uste' ya está acostumbrado
a andar dando volteretas
y ningún daño le hará
estar donde las papas queman.

Usted no es na'
ni chicha ni limoná
se la pasa manoseando
caramba zamba su dignidad.

La fiesta ya ha comenzao
y la cosa está que arde
uste' que era el más quedao
se quiere adueñar del baile
total a los olfatillos
no hay olor que se les escape.

Si queremos más fiestoca
primero hay que trabajar
y tendremos pa' toítos
abrigo, pan y amistad
y si usted no está de acuerdo
es cuestión de uste' nomás
la cosa va pa' delante
y no piensa recular.

Ya déjese de patillas
venga a remediar su mal
si aquí debajito 'el poncho
no tengo ningún puñal
y si sigue hociconeando
le vamos a expropiar
las pistolas y la lengua
y toíto lo demás.

[Kip Humphrey]

8. Democratic Socialism v. Corporate Socialism - I can't wait!

I've been waiting all my life for this.

[ladjf]

9. Bernie is not a "socialist" and you know it. He is a Social Democrat. Huge difference.

[morningfog]

11. He's a Democrstic socialist. I love Bernie, fully support him

voted for him and send him money. He's a Democrstic socialist, a socialist who believes in democratic means. It's not s dirty word.

[ladjf]

12. America has had a social Democratic philosophy for many years.

Public Schools, Libraries, fire and police departments,social security and the military are all forms of a Social Democratic government. The Cold War fear mongering hype about the dangers of Communism to our
way of life have kept the people coward down, fearing that they were going to loose everything.

Communism has proven to be a terrible, ineffective form of Govt. Meanwhile, our Government changed from
Democracy to a fascist style unbridled Capitalism and Oligarchy. Our young people are leading the way just as Robert Kennedy,shortly prior to his assassination said that they would do.

[morningfog]

13. Yes! I know about the value it social democracy.

And I never mentioned communism.

[ladjf]

14. I never thought that you were talking about communism.

I just extended my rant a bit. (Bad writing by me.)

[Barack_America]

15. A proper battle for the soul of America.

Bring it, Trump.

[Bern2WinUSA]

17. Labels are just that----

It is the debate/exchange of Ideas that I am looking forward to. Bernie has a clear vision for working Americans and our Country. Haven't heard much from Trump-o other than Hate.