2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie wins Democrats abroad primary 70% to 30%, bigger margin than Obama.
From a Daily Kos diary:
Bernie wins Democrats abroad primary 70% to 30% (bigger margin than Obama in '08)
Democrats abroad are FeelingTheBern strongly (nearly) everywhere: Bernie Sanders has won an overwhelming victory in the Democrats abroad primaries conducted in the week from March 1 to March 8.
While it will take another week (March 21st) until official results will be released, it seems that Bernie has won an astonishing 70 percent of Democrats abroad votes, winning the primaries in every country (with the lone exception of Singapore), exceeding Obamas 2008 then big margin of victory by another 8 points.
Therefore It seems highly likely that Bernie Sanders will win 9 out of 13 pledged delegates, ensuring a 9 to 4 delegate split over Mrs. Clinton, thereby closing the overall delegate gap by 5 delegates.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)That sure looks like an augury for Ohio and Illinois, at the least, where the pollster who predicted Michigan shows an extremely tight race--easily tippable by Bernie supporters' enthusiasm and great ground game.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280144831
And maybe for at least a good showing in FLA and NC. (This pollster shows Bernie ahead by a hair in Missouri.)
Three cheers for Democrats around the world!
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)But proud to have been among the 70%
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)And this is what Hillary is up against.
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/03/13/capitol-insider-thousands-switching-party-affiliation-on-eve-of-primary.html
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)That is some bold writing on the wall indeed.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Tells us also their low opinion of Hillary's abilities & performance as Secretary of State.
coyote
(1,561 posts)have a better idea what our country could be than what it currently is. I live in a democratic socialist country (Germany) and know that we can do better for our country, like:
- free college education
- great single payer health care
- strong workers rights through unions
- 6 weeks vacation
- no police abuse or fear of guns
- a strong regulated economy that works for all
My life quality here is far superior in Germany than when I lived in the U.S. for the first 30 years of my life.
Bernie has a far better vision for the U.S. than Hillary. People voting for Hillary are settling for crumbs where in could have so much more. My experience living in Germany has allowed me to see it first hand.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)One of her big goals was to be able to say she'd visited more foreign countries than any previous Secretary of State. I read of times she'd have her private jet land in some small country's airport for a couple of hours. Some local politicians would be driven to the airport for a meet and greet and then off she went into the wild blue yonder. She had a bucket list of countries and would jam them together in her trips. Despite all the telecommuting options open to her, she spent one of her four years as SOS, in the air - traveling. Here's a shocker! Flying is an activity, not an accomplishment.
One of the elements of having class is appreciating the difference between quantity (number of countries visited) and quality (oh, I don't know. Negotiating treaties? I don't consider pushing corporate fracking interests in multiple countries a quality activity for a US SOS). That has always seemed to escape the Clintons. They are hell bent on building up their personal net worth. Her net worth is estimated at $31 million; Bill's at $80 million. What is up with Hillary Clintons compulsive lining of her own pockets? It turns out she has her campaign paying her $250,000 a year. Its not illegal but most would-be presidents arent so venal.
Whence their hell bent compulsion to keep accumulating more? In addition to their personal wealth, the Clinton Foundation which the family controls, employs their key staff between campaigns and covers the cost of their private-jet trips and other extravagances. What can they possibly spend it on? They have no personal passions - not art collectors or patrons of the arts; they don't have an ocean-going yacht for long trips; they don't maintain pied-a-terres in cultural capitols of the world, or even New York City.
Whatever mix of greed, entitlement and profound insecurity lies behind Hillary Clintons strange compulsion, its one more thing for the voters to think about. editorial -Hillary Clintons pathological need for cash
By New York Post Editorial Board, March 6, 2016 | 8:05pm
Hillary Clinton was many things as Secretary of State. One of the most notable, however, was "well-traveled." During her four years as the nation's top diplomat -- and particularly during her final year in that post -- Clinton fashioned herself as something of a George Clooney of global affairs, spending almost as much time up in the air as she did on the ground.
In the process, she broke records. In July of 2012, during a trip to Finland, Clinton met Madeleine Albright's most-countries-traveled-to mark -- the record, at the time -- of 98 countries. She then surpassed it with a trip to Latvia. The new secretary then went on to visit 12 more countries, for a closing total of 112.
Total miles traveled: 956,733
Which equates to this many times traveled around the circumference of the world: 38.42
Total travel time, in hours: 2,084.21
Total travel time, in days: 86.8
Days of travel, in all: 401
Which works out to: 1.099 years
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/01/hillary-clinton-traveled-956-733-miles-during-her-time-as-secretary-of-state/272656/
MisterP
(23,730 posts)she parachutes into NY because it was the first opening in the Senate, she parachutes into the nomination '15 with no other establishment candidate
noamnety
(20,234 posts)It's very hard to buy into the whole "RED ALERT SOCIALISM" screeching once you've actually spent time in a foreign hospital and realized "Shit, this is way better care than what I would have gotten at home and it's accessible to anyone."
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)I never thought experience alone mattered much if you weren't very good at whatever it was you experienced. Especially if didn't learn from your mistakes...
rpannier
(24,329 posts)"Although the final results of our Global Presidential Primary wont be known until March 21, we hope that the results tonight inspire other Democrats in New Zealand and around the world to cast their votes and influence the direction of our party and our country.
http://www.democratsabroad.org/first_super_tuesday_results_americans_in_new_zealand_make_their_voice_heard
They are reporting polling station numbers
Polling station numbers are likely not the majority of voters
Most people vote by fax, e-mail or postal
This is because many countries do not have a voting station and many only have one or two
Sanders likely won big and that's good, especially since I voted for him in it (by e-mail)
But it's the 21st of March
LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)Spouse and I mailed in our votes a couple of weeks ago.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)She got destroyed in Osaka by over 9:1.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Very positive for Bernie.
Laughing Mirror
(4,185 posts)That sounds about right. I knew there was a reason why I live here.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Great news.
MattSh
(3,714 posts)They are still counting votes and expect to complete that around March 21.
Most votes overseas are emailed in, faxed in, or snail mailed in.
noamnety
(20,234 posts)"Im fully aware that this is not a final count because a lot of ballots are still in the mail. But in 2008 the ballots via mail did not change the outcome significantly, therefore I expect the final results to remain in the range of 70% for Bernie, maybe with a variation of +/- 2 or 3 % at most."
lostnfound
(16,177 posts)👍