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Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:19 PM Mar 2016

What Was Hillary Thinking? A History of Poor Decision-Making

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ben-cohen-ben-and-jerrys/what-was-hillary-thinking-a-history-of-poor-decision-making_b_9442158.html

Ben Cohen Co-Founder, Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream and Head Stamper, StampStampede.org



We cannot afford to elect a President with a history bad judgement, inconsistent positions, and who has used public service as a vehicle for private gain. In other words, we cannot afford the status-quo.


What was Hillary thinking when she supported Barry Goldwater -- a dyed-in-the-wool Republican who voted against the Civil Rights Act -- for president in 1964?

What was she thinking when she voted to authorize the war in Iraq despite having access to confidential information from the intelligence community that clearly stated that Iraq did not represent an imminent threat to the United States?

What was she thinking when she supported NAFTA? A bad trade deal between the US, Mexico, and Canada that cost American's over 700,000 good manufacturing jobs because it made it easy, inexpensive, and cost effective for manufacturers and big businesses to relocate or outsource their workforce.

Or when she called the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) "the gold standard in trade agreements"? The same trade agreement that would force American workers to compete for jobs with South East Asia workers who earn $0.56 per hour?

What was she thinking in 2009 when, as Secretary of State, she went to Switzerland to help UBS -- one of the most powerful banks in the world - and cut a sweetheart deal with the IRS to protect tens of thousands of US customers with secret bank accounts? Following her help, UBS paid Bill Clinton $1.5 million in speaking fees.
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What Was Hillary Thinking? A History of Poor Decision-Making (Original Post) Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 OP
Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream is a subsidiary of a European chemical conglomerate. nt onehandle Mar 2016 #1
Well that's it for Ben then Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #2
Also, Ben has said his second choice is Trump. nt DURHAM D Mar 2016 #3
You're shitting me. Right? nt onehandle Mar 2016 #5
When did he say that? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #7
Is what he says here true? djean111 Mar 2016 #4
It's all they've got Lorien Mar 2016 #9
Hoping they don't make it to the general election, actually! n/t djean111 Mar 2016 #10
I know it's a rhetorical question farleftlib Mar 2016 #6
A-freaking-men Lorien Mar 2016 #8
I want to ask them if it was worth people dying to make political connections. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #11
I really think that supporting a candidate from nearly half a century ago renate Mar 2016 #12

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
7. When did he say that?
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:42 PM
Mar 2016

All I could find was some idiot's post on Reddit linking to a photo of him standing in line for a Trump rally.

Iirc, dozens of Vermonters went there to prevent others from getting in and protest.

From the NYT:

Earlier in the day, even Ben Cohen, a co-founder of the iconic ice cream chain, got into protesting spirit as he walked down the street with a lit-up Sanders campaign sign.

“Trump is here in our backyard, and we want to make it clear that we are dyed-in-the-wool Bernie people,” Mr. Cohen said.

Despite the Trump campaign’s best efforts to filter out anyone who was not a fan of the candidate, protesters interrupted his remarks every few minutes during a meandering speech that lasted more than an hour.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/08/us/politics/overflow-crowd-for-donald-trump-in-bernie-sanderss-backyard.html?_r=0


 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
4. Is what he says here true?
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:33 PM
Mar 2016

That's really all that matters, although I sincerely appreciate the giggle about the swift as lightning attack-the-messenger with no
opinion on the subject at hand.

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
9. It's all they've got
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:53 PM
Mar 2016

How well is that tactic going to work for them in the General Election, I wonder?

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
6. I know it's a rhetorical question
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:36 PM
Mar 2016

and yet I still have to say she was thinking of herself, of lining her pockets, of setting herself up get even more power so the gravy train will keep running for her and her cronies at the expense of the American taxpayer. That's what she was thinking. Using public office for private gain is what Hillary is all about, world without end. Amen.

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
8. A-freaking-men
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:52 PM
Mar 2016

why anyone supports the slimy establishment handpuppet tactics and right wing actions of the Clintons is beyond me. Turn off your TVs people, read the foreign press. Hillary is NOT your friend!

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
11. I want to ask them if it was worth people dying to make political connections.
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:49 PM
Mar 2016

So here is another what were they thinking when they awarded a contract to Health Management Associates who went to Arkansas prisons and drew blood from prisoners, blood they didn't test for hepatitis and AIDS even after being warned that they were very likely selling blood that had both viruses in it to blood banks.

https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/1999/may/15/tainted-plasma-traced-to-arkansas-prison-bill-clintons-blood-trails/

I am sick and tired of 3rd Way Hunger Games.

renate

(13,776 posts)
12. I really think that supporting a candidate from nearly half a century ago
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:56 PM
Mar 2016

... is not super relevant to who she is today.

It's not the same thing as being proud of my candidate's consistency and long-held values; I think his actions from half a century ago are relevant when they're directly related to who he is today.

But just like I wouldn't make a big thing of it if Trump had voted for McGovern in 1972, I don't care that she supported Goldwater. It just seems like weak tea to me; I hope a certain amount of evolution and growth can occur in 52 years.

P.S. The trade deals and the Iraq vote are VERY big deals to me, though.

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